ShinyRhino Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 You are of course correct ;) . But missed my second edit after my momentary insanity. Portal would go off before any embarkation anyway so in this case its a surprisingly well written rule that avoids any issues yes? Indeed I did, and you are correct. Good catch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 On the battlefield or in reserves... now can someone point me where in those 2 options i can find "inside a transport"? cause i cant find it. Major rule for all: if its aint listed as an option its not possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 A unit in a transport is on the table/battlefield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azulz Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 A unit in a transport is on the table/battlefield. I agree, how can something be in a transport shooting things and count as a scoring unit, but not "be on the battlefield" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azulz Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 Did anyone notice when the Necron FAQ got pulled off of their site?I know it was up there a few days ago..... Has anyone ever noticed a pattern between when a FAQ gets taken down and when a new one comes out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Nov 24 2011 is when I noticed it. WitchHunters has gone too :lol:. Read into it what you will – they were after all defunct FAQs and would only serve to confuse if left up... could also mean new ones on the way :) Anyway this is all slightly off-topic so... Cheers I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronk Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Not bad. That's 1 week after I got a reply from the email I sent them telling them the Sisters of Battle and Daemon Hunters Reference Sheets were out of date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Not bad. That's 1 week after I got a reply from the email I sent them telling them the Sisters of Battle and Daemon Hunters Reference Sheets were out of date. :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falldown Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 From the write-up of Imotekh's Staff of the Destroyer : "This ancient and ornamental staff of light was first wielded by Zehet..." At no other point in the write-up is the fact that this weapon is a staff of light brought up. My question is can Imotekh the Stormlord's Staff of the Destroyer use the Staff of Light firing profile because of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 This is terribly written but I'd work it like Telion's bolter, where it only uses the new weapon profile. New question: When using Mindshackle Scarabs on a Chaos Lord with a Daemon Weapon, how is this resolved? Say he fails and attacks himself. He does D3 attacks against himself, but must roll a D6 for the daemon weapon to see if it rebels (and for how many attacks he gets). Does he even use the daemon weapon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saiisil Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 New question: When using Mindshackle Scarabs on a Chaos Lord with a Daemon Weapon, how is this resolved? Say he fails and attacks himself. He does D3 attacks against himself, but must roll a D6 for the daemon weapon to see if it rebels (and for how many attacks he gets). Does he even use the daemon weapon? Just did a read through of Mindshackle Scarabs. While any bonuses from the Daemon Weapon are applied you do not roll the d6 for it. That d6 is used to determine number of attacks not if the weapon rebels though there exists a chance for the weapon to rebel on that d6. Mindshackle Scarabs specifically say "instead of attacking normally" which removes the existence of the +d6 attacks because that is part of the model attacking normally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azulz Posted December 5, 2011 Author Share Posted December 5, 2011 A unit in a transport is on the table/battlefield. Does this also mean they can be pulled out of things like buildings and bunkers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 A unit in a transport is on the table/battlefield. By youre logic we can also shoot at a unit inside a transport cause they are on the table, we all know that aint possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator-Chaplain Ezra Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 A unit in a transport is on the table/battlefield. By youre logic we can also shoot at a unit inside a transport cause they are on the table, we all know that aint possible. False equivalency. Try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 A unit in a transport is on the table/battlefield. By youre logic we can also shoot at a unit inside a transport cause they are on the table, we all know that aint possible. By your logic, units embarked can not fire at models on the table cause they are not on the table themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 False equivalency, as stated. Besides, your response is already answered by the BRB FAQ: Q: Can an embarked unit ever be the target of enemy shooting? (p67) A: No. Only the transport vehicle can be hit. Does this also mean they can be pulled out of things like buildings and bunkers?As buildings and bunkers use the same rules for transports, I don't see why not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBMAKENZIE Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Its not a false Equivalency, They could have been shot if you didnt need to draw line of sight. (Smart Missiles, and Hive Guard Edit: And that one GK unit are the only thing so far that can do that) and it was FAQed so that you cant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Something Wycked Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 It is a false equivalency. Embarked units are on the table, else they could not do things like cast psychic powers or shoot from fire points; they also could not disembark from their transport vehicle because they'd have to arrive from Reserves- which is where all units are when they are not on the table. GW has FAQ'ed that they may not be targeted by shooting or psychic powers while so embarked; the purpose of this is to solidify the protection that a transport gives the unit. If you could target the unit inside the transport, why are you buying the transport in the first place? This protection by design does not extend to special rules on friendly units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Peeps dont understand sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBMAKENZIE Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 This protection by design does not extend to special rules on friendly units. But it does apply to friendly Psychic Powers. I can see the argument being made that if Eldar cant do something like fortune a friendly squad chilling in a wave serpent then a portal shouldnt be able to portal from within a vehicle. (now the fluff doesnt support this and I dont actually believe it but...) There are definitely beneficial friendly effects that don't extend into tanks for what ever reason. For the moment though it extends only to shooting and psychic powers and I dont think we can really try and comprehend why. The only thing that really stops it from being true is the FAQ so If you havent read the most recent one I can see why you would make that comparison (its valid is what i mean) /ramblingsteamofthought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deity12 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Another question... (I really hope it hasn't been covered somewhere else) Could a Necron Overlord/Lord make a Ever-Living and a Reanimation protocols roll? If so in which order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 one or the other, not both. IIRC, the lords/overlords do not have Reanimation Protocol rules, only Ever Living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeattleDV8 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 All the Nercon HQ have both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 There isn't such a thing as an Ever-living roll, only Reanimation Protocols roll. :( That being said, all Necron IC's have both rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deity12 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 There isn't such a thing as an Ever-living roll, only Reanimation Protocols roll. :D That being said, all Necron IC's have both rules. Sorry, my mistake :blush: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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