Knockagh Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Another small novella which I started yesterday and so far it a joy. I’m smiling all the way through a chapter at a time. Going back to the early days knowing the future could have been so bad but so far Abnett doing a great job. You can see the regiment building it’s skills, there is some information I dont remember coming out before (not to say it hadn’t) can’t wait to get a good quiet evening to finish this off. Now the rains arrived in the UK that might be possible! Any ghost fan has got to love this. I’m sure the second half will be all action but the slow opening section is superb, as we get to meet some friends again. Also add the special edition is impressive. The map of Tanith by Francesca Baerald is just perfect as all her art is. Small book for the money but certainly there are some nice little (expensive) extra bits. Ryltar Thamior, Brother Lunkhead, SteveAntilles and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto69 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Sounds good. I never bother with Ltd/Special editions - too rich and stressful to purchase for me - so will be waiting for the regular release. Gotta say I love the concept of the Ghost Dossiers, a neat way to go back now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockagh Posted July 29, 2021 Author Share Posted July 29, 2021 Agree. It opens up some cracking possibilities. How would we feel about a pre founding book? See our characters on Tanith before it all? Or one focused on Gaunt before Tanith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheywood Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) As long as the main story’s still happening I don’t need or particularly want side stories, but Abnett’s saying these will recontextualize the story a little, which sounds great. Edited July 29, 2021 by cheywood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto69 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 As long as the main story’s still happening I don’t need or particularly want side stories, but Abnett’s saying these will recontextualize the story a little, which sounds great. Oh we definitely do not NEED these flasback side stories for the GG series but I for one WANT them. As you say, as long as main story/plot continues. Roomsky 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockagh Posted July 31, 2021 Author Share Posted July 31, 2021 Speak for yourself! I neeeeed these stories. Nearly done this morning but got rudely interrupted. This is certainly 40k meets Helmand province. You can nearly smell it. I’m not usually a fan of prolonged fighting bits but I’ve really enjoyed this. DukeLeto69 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Also keen for more Ghost stories potentially out of the main arc, a lot of the best characters have been dead for years irl so its interesting to see them again even for a little while, im sure there are plenty of previously unnamed Ghosts to die still :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockagh Posted August 2, 2021 Author Share Posted August 2, 2021 Finished this. Wow. I wasn’t expecting anything like this in the dossier books. Abnett has started something here that I have no idea where it’s going at all. I doubt any ghost fan will want to miss this, it’s eisenhorn level conspiracy stuff. On the surface this is, as I said earlier a 40k goes to Afghan. We have all the players, an occupying force unsure of local traditions and loyalties, military intelligence trying to make sense of it all, a vicious and cruel band of terrorists hiding behind and among an innocent population, translators etc etc. All good stuff and we see the regiments strengths that later are so well used forming. However a little side story showing our favourite (some now dead) characters isn’t enough for old Dan. He is reaching back to old Tanith it’s cultures and possible links across the sector. Hidden groups? secret societies? Feth knows!? Fething great stuff anyway. On the limited edition, this has to be the best one of these boxed editions yet. Up to now we got a box with a book and some largely random stuff. Here all the extras relate to the book. We have coins from Tanith that are mentioned, a coin from Khulan. A map of Tanith, showing tribal lands, which I’m imagining will help as this storyline progresses. Various other cool stuff, that are all story related. Brilliant job. As usual I’m in awe of Abnetts head. Roomsky and DukeLeto69 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto69 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 @knockagh I think this just went from a WANT to a NEED for me! Colour me intrigued. Care to give us some spoilers (my memory is bad so won’t remember when I do read it)? I cannot wait for the standard release. The Ltd/Special editions are too pricey and too stressful to collect for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockagh Posted August 2, 2021 Author Share Posted August 2, 2021 Sent you a PM, no idea how to do spoilers sorry DukeLeto69 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto69 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Sent you a PM, no idea how to do spoilers sorry Great thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Lunkhead Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Use of spoiler tags can be found in the ++ ORDO ADMINISTRATUM ++, ++ BOLTER & CHAINSWORD 101 ++ subforum under BBCode Guide (page 2). PM me if you have any questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto69 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Type this but as one thing with no spaces or carriage returns... [ Spoiler ] Type text about the spoiler then [ / spoiler ] Pacific81 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockagh Posted August 2, 2021 Author Share Posted August 2, 2021 Feel free to stick my PM in yourself as a spoiler DukeLeto69 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto69 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 From Knockagh Very basically the military intelligence folks are obsessed with the culture of the planets which have seen insurgencies after imperials took control again. Their work looks at common symbols used, primarily their tribal tattoos. The intel folk go back to the shared Terran ancestry of many of the worlds where these symbols are seen……including Tanith. Tanith seems only to have been colonised for around 6000 years but others worlds predate the heresy suggesting Tanith was a colony of another world in the sabbat system. A lot of the narrative from this comes from Rawne who beds the pretty intel officer, giving her a chance to examine his tattoos and so they chat…… Rawne and other ghosts seem to care or know little about any of the cultural history attached to them. Rawne suggests she talk to Dorden who has some knowledge of the symbols. The insurgents they are fighting in the book are the first they have experienced with any martial skill or training and surprise surprise they share some tattoos with the Tanith. Added to that is the suspicion that the insurgents are getting arms from the occupation force itself suggesting a traitor? At the end of the book the Tanith are pulled out to head to the front. The regiment taking over ignore all the Tanith have learnt and dismiss the intel folks as mere pesky interference. So the whole developing story seems about to be lost until the very end when the tattoo they have been most concerned about is glanced on young Brin Milos back! Shock horror!! This is the tattoo associated with the Nalsheen, these were the guys who defended Tanith, ultra scouts back in the day. We also know Mkvenner has been trained as a Nalsheen before everything and he’s the only one left…… but then if the culture wasn’t specific to Tanith then is he? If you think forward to Mkvenners ‘death’ on Gereon we are told he might not even be dead. Certainly there is mystery round him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybrewster Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Will this get a general release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto69 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Will this get a general release? Definitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animal310 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 (edited) Finished a couple of days ago, great read. Before getting to it I re-read everything chronologically up to that point as per below. The Fissure - 251.M41 * Manzipor (First and Only) – 735.M41 Ignatatius Cardinal (First and Only) – 736.M41 Darendara Part 1 (First and Only) – 747.M41 Darendara Part 2 (First and Only) – 747.M41 Gylastus Decimus (First and Only) – 749.M41 Khedd 1173 (First and Only) – 751.M41 Ghost Return – 755.M41 The Headstone and the Hammerstone Kings - 757.M41 * The Inheritor King – 757.M41 * Epilogue (Blood Pact) – 765.M41 Regicide - 765.M41 * Ghostmaker (Ghostmaker) - 765.M41 1st Blackshard A Blooding (Ghostmaker) - 765.M41 2nd Voltemand Of Their Lives in the Ruins of Their Cities – 765.M41 2nd Voltemand The Vincula Insurgency – 765.M41 2nd Voltemand Now in both 'Of Their Lives in the Ruins of Their Cities' and 'The Vincula Insurgency' the next planet the Ghosts are to be deployed on is strongly suggested to be Caligula. There are two stories set on Caligula in Ghostmaker, one of them dealing with 'insurgents' so I have a strong suspicion that this is where part 2 of the Ghost Dossier will take place. In fact the Ghost Dossier's are a great opportunity to expand on the stories and planets visited in the short stories contained in Ghostmaker. I can't find anything definitive but it certainly seems to me that all the events in Chostmaker took place before the main narrative in First and Only, these short stories were also written first I believe. Thoughts? Edited August 10, 2021 by animal310 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockagh Posted August 11, 2021 Author Share Posted August 11, 2021 You’ve put in a good piece of work there! I’m not sure the dossier files will necessarily fill in holes like that, but they could. The story within the story will be the one Dan wants to tell, and certainly the one I’m interested in. I doubt very much Dan had any plans for this side story and it will definitely be fascinating to see where it goes. I’d like to see the story on Gereon told from a different perspective in light of emerging details. animal310 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petitioner's City Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 I've always thought of Ghostmaker sandwiching First and Only; Necropolis occurs after Monthax, and it makes sense that First and Only occurs before 'Witch Hunt', and even before 'A Simple Plan' as it feels like too much development for Caffran compared to the boy he still feels like in F&O. I haven't got my Crusade history books to hand, but will check by Friday :) animal310 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animal310 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 (edited) I've always thought of Ghostmaker sandwiching First and Only; Necropolis occurs after Monthax, and it makes sense that First and Only occurs before 'Witch Hunt', and even before 'A Simple Plan' as it feels like too much development for Caffran compared to the boy he still feels like in F&O. I haven't got my Crusade history books to hand, but will check by Friday :) I’ve had a quick look, Monthax was 6 months before Necropolis but I see what you mean about Caffran. The 6 months could have been more anti-insurgency type work or any other unmentioned event. I think at least 4 stories minimum take place before First and Only, Ghostmaker, The Blooding, The Hollows of Hell and That Hideous Strength (the last two being based on Caligula) A few more as well seem likely. Good point about Caffran, the last three from A Simple Plan onwards no doubt take place after First and Only. Varl is a Sgt in Witch Hunt, when was he promoted, during First and Only? I take it Dan has never come out with a chronological list? Edited August 11, 2021 by animal310 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Thought some might be interested: Behold the map of Tanith! ;) ⚜️Fʀᴀɴᴄᴇsᴄᴀ Bᴀᴇʀᴀʟᴅ⚔️ (@FBaerald) Tweeted: Map of #Tanith I did for The #VinculaInsurgency: #GhostDossier I - Limited Edition 1ncarnadine and Knockagh 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockagh Posted August 18, 2021 Author Share Posted August 18, 2021 Beautiful isn’t it. She is an amazing artist. One for the wall Kelborn 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petitioner's City Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 I'm out of likes but by God that's beautiful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Just ordered this through Amazon, sample chapter was very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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