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Wanted to make a list with Fulgrim The man himself will go with Phoenix termies in the spartan, the champion goes with the palatines, the apothecary will join the kakophoni For the hidden blade, the sky hunter squadron will outflank, what do you think, anything youd change? ++ Crusade Force Organisation Chart (LA - III: Emperor's Children) [3,000Pts] ++ + Expanded Army Lists + Expanded Army List Profiles:: Exemplary Units On, Legacy Units On + Allegiance: + III: Emperor's Children Allegiance: Traitor + Rite of War: + Rite of War: The Maru Skara (EC) + HQ: + Centurion [165Pts] . Champion: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Sonic Shriekers, Thunder Hammer, Warhawk Jump Pack . Champion + Elites: + Apothecarion Detachment [45Pts] . Apothecary: Bolt Pistol, Power Armour . . Chainsword: Chainsword Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [195Pts] . Contemptor Dreadnought: Gravis Melta Cannon, Gravis Power Fist with in-built ranged weapon, Meltagun Palatine Blade Aquilae Squad [395Pts]: 9x Palatine Warrior, 9x Power Axe . Palatine Prefector: Bolt Pistol, Phoenix Power Spear Phoenix Terminator Squad [625Pts]: 4x Phoenix Terminators, Sonic Shriekers . Land Raider Spartan . . Land Raider Spartan: 2x Lascannon Array, Flare Shield, Hull (Front) Mounted Twin-linked Heavy Bolter + Troops: + Despoiler Squad [160Pts] . Legion Despoiler Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Power Armour . . Power Weapon: Phoenix Rapier . 14x Despoilers (collective): 14x Bolt Pistol, 14x Chainsword Tactical Squad [100Pts] . Legion Tactical Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Armour . 9x Legionaries (collective): 9x Bolt Pistol, 9x Bolter Tactical Squad [100Pts] . Legion Tactical Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Armour . 9x Legionaries (collective): 9x Bolt Pistol, 9x Bolter + Fast Attack: + Sky-Hunter Squadron [135Pts] . Legion Sky-Hunter Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Plasma Cannon . . Chainsword: Chainsword . Legion Sky-Hunter: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Plasma Cannon . Legion Sky-Hunter: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Plasma Cannon + Heavy Support: + Kakophoni Squad [320Pts]: Artificer Armour, 9x Chora, Orchestrator . Rhino Transport Sun Killer Squad [335Pts]: 7x Lascannon, 7x Sun Killer . Novaetor: Artificer Armour, Augury Scanner, Chainsword, Lascannon + Primarch: + Fulgrim [425Pts]: The Blade of the Laer ++ Total: [3,000Pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe

Asking for feedback for my emperors children. Just playing Maru skara for the extra movement The Champion will go with the palatines to hunt down some impoetant targets and the Master of Signals will chill with the kakophoni to buff their shooting and transfer their leadership. The apothecary will help out the kakophoni to stay alive. Kinda feel like that List might be too elite and i dont play enough modells ++ Crusade Force Organisation Chart (LA - III: Emperor's Children) [2,497Pts] ++ + Expanded Army Lists + Expanded Army List Profiles:: Exemplary Units On, Legacy Units On + Allegiance: + III: Emperor's Children Allegiance: Traitor + Rite of War: + Rite of War: The Maru Skara (EC) + HQ: + Captain Lucius [835Pts]: Close combat weapon, Sonic Shriekers . Phoenix Terminator Squad: Phoenix Terminator Standard Bearer, 4x Phoenix Terminators . . Land Raider Spartan . . . Land Raider Spartan: 2x Lascannon Array, Flare Shield, Hull (Front) Mounted Twin-linked Heavy Bolter Centurion [135Pts] . Champion: Artificer Armour, Sonic Shriekers, Warhawk Jump Pack . . Bolt Pistol . . Chainsword: Chainsword . Champion Centurion [95Pts]: The Broken Mirror (Traitor only), Warlord . Master of Signals: Artificer Armour . . Bolt Pistol . . Chainsword: Chainsword . Master of Signals + Elites: + Apothecarion Detachment [45Pts] . Apothecary: Bolt Pistol, Power Armour . . Chainsword: Chainsword Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [195Pts] . Contemptor Dreadnought: Gravis Melta Cannon, Gravis Power Fist with in-built ranged weapon, Meltagun Palatine Blade Aquilae Squad [220Pts]: 4x Palatine Warrior, 4x Power Axe . Palatine Prefector: Bolt Pistol, Phoenix Power Spear + Troops: + Despoiler Squad [132Pts] . Legion Despoiler Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol . . Power Weapon: Phoenix Power Spear . 9x Despoilers (collective): 9x Bolt Pistol, 9x Chainsword . Despoiler w/ Options: Bolt Pistol, Heavy Chainsword Tactical Squad [100Pts] . Legion Tactical Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Armour . 9x Legionaries (collective): 9x Bolt Pistol, 9x Bolter Tactical Squad [100Pts] . Legion Tactical Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Armour . 9x Legionaries (collective): 9x Bolt Pistol, 9x Bolter Tactical Support Squad [170Pts]: Plasma Gun . Legion Tactical Support Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Power Armour . 4x Legionaries (collective): 4x Bolt Pistol . Rhino Transport + Heavy Support: + Kakophoni Squad [285Pts]: Artificer Armour, 9x Chora, Orchestrator Sun Killer Squad [185Pts]: 4x Lascannon, 4x Sun Killer . Novaetor: Chainsword, Lascannon ++ Total: [2,497Pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe

Hi all, first post, looking for some list feedback. Never written a list or played a game of Heresy, but I've got a burning desire to since getting the AoD box. There's a 2.5k event coming up near me, which also serves as excellent motivation to get everything painted. I built the AoD box around what felt cool, rather than towards any specific list and it's challenging me a bit here - while I'm not setting out to win, I'd also rather not lose turn 1. Anyway, the list: EC, running Pride of the Legion RoW, total 2500pts: HQ Praetor - 195 Paragon Blade Power Fist Sonic Shriekers Warlord Trait - Bloody Handed Troops 10 Cataphractii - 875 Phoenix Power Spear 4x Pairs Lightning Claws 5x Power Fists 2x Reaper Autocannon Sonic Shriekers Spartan w/ Flare Shield 15 Tactical Marines - 200 Phoenix Power Spear Vexilla Chain Bayonets 10 Assault Marines - 205 Phoenix Power Spear Sonic Shriekers 3x Plasma Pistols Elites Contemptor Dreadnought - 220 Power Fist w/ Plasma Blaster Chainfist w/ Meltagun Havoc Launcher 10 Palatine Blades - 380 9x Phoenix Rapiers Phoenix Power Spear Sonic Shriekers Apothecarion Detachment - 45 1 Apothecary Fast Attack Javelin Attack Speeder - 105 Lascannon Multi-melta Heavy Support 10 Kakophoni - 275 Vague plan would be to run the Contemptor and Spartan-with-Cataphractii straight up the middle, point the Javelin at anything vehicle-shaped, and point the Palatine Blades with Praetor at anything power-armour-wearing. Kakophoni + Apothecary pin whatever the Palatines want to charge, while the Marine squads do what Marine squads do - either score or get in the way as needed. I appear to not have a lot to deal with much of anything at range - I'm inclined to think this is normal for a melee army, but coming from 40K Guard I do feel uncomfortable with it. Some specific questions I have: Is my lack of other transports going to get me shot off the board? Is this the right number of power armour bodies to run at this game size? Should I be going more elite? Less elite? Are Kakophoni a waste of the single HS slot? As is, how would you play this list? If you're mortally offended by this list, how would you change it? (See below) List of other stuff that I have, for reference, to swap in and out: 10 power sword + boltgun Veterans 10 chainsword + boltgun Tactical Marines +5 chain bayonet Tactical Marines 10 plasma Support Marines 10 melta Support Marines 10 unbuilt mk3 Marines, that I'm debating making into either Breachers or bare-bones Despoilers? I also have two Rhinos on backorder but I don't know if they'll be here in time for the event. Any advice welcome, please be gentle

Hi all, I'm getting close to completing my 2500pts Emperor's Children army, and I thought it was time for me to post up some pics, and get some opinions. I have bought 99% of the models I need for my army, and all but Fulgrim are base-coated, but I'll just post pics of the finished models. Please just speak your mind, no need to hold back . FYI, I know the 'gold' doesn't look like gold all the time, but that's because I'm still learning this 'NMM' technique. To be honest, I don't think I'll change it no matter what people say, because even though it might not seem like gold all the time, I still like the unique look it's bringing to my army . I can't post this without mentioning our member 'Whitescar', who's EC army has been my inspiration. The shield on my champion is a copy of his design, and you might notice more elements that match his army (though I don't dare to think my army gets any where near his it looks). So here we go: http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j146/MorgothNL/IMG_1639_zpskxzqm1i8.jpg http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j146/MorgothNL/IMG_1631_zpsld3ry1lh.jpghttp://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j146/MorgothNL/IMG_1630_zpsyy917chf.jpghttp://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j146/MorgothNL/IMG_1629_zpslfeop6lz.jpghttp://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j146/MorgothNL/IMG_1627_zpsvewrzobz.jpghttp://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j146/MorgothNL/IMG_1626_zpshhggrlih.jpghttp://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j146/MorgothNL/IMG_1625_zpsp8vdmwhv.jpghttp://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j146/MorgothNL/IMG_1624_zpsxaugcfdr.jpghttp://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j146/MorgothNL/IMG_1628_zpsusgpgu3d.jpghttp://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j146/MorgothNL/IMG_1622_zpsycvgmuuj.jpg

Following some more play-testing, this is the current incarnation of my Maru Skara list. I would be interested in any thoughts and comments. OPEN BLADE Praetor: Power fist; Paragon blade; digital lasers; iron halo; sonic shrieker; jump pack Apothecary: power sword; jump pack 15 Assault Space Marines: Assault Sergeant (artificer armour; Phoenix power spear); 14 Assault Space Marines; 3 × power weapon; combat shields; melta bombs Champion: artificer armour; paragon blade (master-crafted); combat shield; sonic shrieker; jump pack Apothecary: power sword; jump pack 10 Assault Space Marines: Assault Sergeant (artificer armour; Phoenix power spear); 9 Assault Space Marines; 2 × power weapon; melta bombs Librarian: Mastery Level 2 (Divination); artificer armour; force sword; refractor field; sonic shrieker Apothecary: artificer armour; augury scanner 8 Tactical Support Marines: Tactical Support Sergeant (artificer armour); 7 Tactical Support Marines; plasma guns Land Raider Battle Squadron • Land Raider Proteus: hull-mounted twin-linked lascannon Fire Raptor Gunship: turret-mounted Reaper autocannon batteries; 4 wing-mounted Hellstrike missiles Vindicator Siege Tank Squadron • Vindicator: hull-mounted laser destroyer array • Vindicator: hull-mounted laser destroyer array HIDDEN BLADE (turn 2) 5 Seekers: Strike Leader (artificer armour; combi-melta); 4 Seekers; 4 × combi-melta • Rhino Primaris-Lightning Strike Fighter: wing-mounted twin-linked autocannon; 2 × 2 wing-mounted Kraken penetrator heavy missiles; battle servitor control; ground-tracking auguries Javelin Attack Speeder Squadron • Javelin Attack Speeder: pintle-mounted multi-melta; hull-mounted twin-linked lascannon; 2 × hunter-killer missiles • Javelin Attack Speeder: pintle-mounted multi-melta; hull-mounted twin-linked lascannon; 2 × hunter-killer missiles 3,000 points

Hi everyone! I have finally come to the end of the tunnel regarding my Emperor's Children. It has taken 5 years, and frustrated me into getting 4 entire other armies in between, to finish but I have only 1 model left to paint. I have gone over and changed the list more times than I can count but I think this final version will be a legal, fun but strong list. Please have a look, make sure I didn't make any mistakes (I have missed things in the passed causing me to run an illegal list) and please give your input on this final version. Feel free to make small suggestions, but don't start rebuilding the whole list ;). 2500 Pts Maru Skara HQ - Legion Champion (Tartaros, Phoenix Spear, Sonic Shrieker) - Eidolon - 4x Command Squad (Tartaros, 4x Chainfist) ELITES - Apothecary (Artificer Armour, Power Sword) - Contemptor Mortis (Kheres) - 6x Phoenix Guard (Grenade Harness, Sonic Shriekers) TROOPS - 10x Tactical Squad (Extra Close Combat Weapons, Melta Bomb Serg., Phoenix Spear Serg., Artificer Armour Serg., Vexilla) Rino (Dozer Blade) - 10x Tactical Squad (Extra Close Combat Weapons, Melta Bomb Serg., Phoenix Spear Serg., Artificer Armour Serg., Vexilla) Rino (Dozer Blade) FAST ATTACK - Primaris Lightning (Ground Tracking Auguries, Battle Servitor Control, 2x2 Kraken Penetrator Missiles) - Storm Eagle (2xTL lascannons, Extra Armour, TL Heavy Bolter) HEAVY SUPPORT: - Land Raider Phobos (Armoured Ceramite, Dozer Blade, Frag Assault Launchers, Extra Armour) - Sicaran Battle Tank (Lascannon Sponsons, Dozer Blade) So that is the 2.5k Version. Eidolon will most likely go with the apothecary and the 6 Phoenix Guard in the Storm Eagle. The Champion will join the command squad in the landraider (this way both squads have anti-armour capability and the apothecary will be in the larger squad so will have a better chance of saving guys). With Maru Skara I will outflank the Lightning, Storm Eagle and Contemptor T2 The 3k version has everything the 2.5k list has with additionally: - Fulgrim (Fireblade) - 1x2 Kraken Missiles on the Lightning extra - 1x Phoenix Guard extra in the current squad - Armoured Ceramite on the Sicaran and Storm Eagle (the last is a bit meh, but didn't really have any other thing to do with the pts) Fulgrim will join in the Eagle obviously So, there it is, please let me know what you think. I have played similar lists for over 10 games, but the landraider for example is a new addition (and the model that still needs paint). Before the landraider I transported the Command Squad in an Anvillus and added another Contemptor Mortis with the leftover pts. However, that list was too flyer heavy to my taste, and played the same every time. I hope the Landraider will be more fun, add some needed lascannons and still do well as a delivery system.