firestorm40k Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) From a commercial perspective, allowing Chaos Marine players of all types to take Daemons should be a no brainer for GW - basically, it'd translate to more sales of Daemon miniatures. To illustrate, I have Death Guard and Chaos Marine armies, and reading that there'll potentially be rules to allow the summoning of Daemons has got me considering adding 2-4 units (plaguebearers, bloodletters) to these armies. Without the new rules, I wouldn't be interested in a pure daemon army, so that's sales GW wouldn't be getting from me. That's before your get in to the myriad fluff reasons, nor the simple fact Chaos Marines could have Daemons since waaaay back Edited July 21, 2022 by firestorm40k Typo Mumeishi 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrion Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 If the focus is going to be on mono god factions, then will there be 4 combat patrols released? Mumeishi 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 48 minutes ago, Valkyrion said: If the focus is going to be on mono god factions, then will there be 4 combat patrols released? There are/were start collecting boxes for each god, so seems a good chance we’ll see different combat patrols. Blight1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabando Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 2 hours ago, firestorm40k said: From a commercial perspective, allowing Chaos Marine players of all types to take Daemons should be a no brainer for GW - basically, it'd translate to more sales of Daemon miniatures. To illustrate, I have Death Guard and Chaos Marine armies, and reading that there'll potentially be rules to allow the summoning of Daemons has got me considering adding 2-4 units (plaguebearers, bloodletters) to these armies. Without the new rules, I wouldn't be interested in a pure daemon army, so that's sales GW wouldn't be getting from me. That's before your get in to the myriad fluff reasons, nor the simple fact Chaos Marines could have Daemons since waaaay back i think 3rd ed CSM codex had summoning in it for every traitor marine faction. It was pretty good but iirc could be broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrozatarim Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 With Nephilim CPs being as they are, I'm not sure I'll be able to fit daemons into my CSM lists anyway if they need to be taken as their own detachment. This is a pain, as I'd love the excuse to use my AoS Tzeentch daemons in 40k too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahzek451 Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 I am wondering why so many units/boxes are set to "available to order" on the website. A lot of these units are not that old, some fairly new. Poxbringer Screamers Seekers Seeker chariot Karanak skull cannon/bloodthrone burning chariot/fateskimmer/exalted flamer Gnarlmaw Fiends Slimux Plague drones soul grinder inernal enrapturess bloodcrushers blue scribes(finecast)-I get this one herald of khorne on juggernaut(I think this is finecast) epidemius(finecast)-I get this one herald of slaanesh(finecast)-I get this one fluxmaster(finecast)-I get this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrion Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Being repackaged? Blight1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabando Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Ahzek451 said: I am wondering why so many units/boxes are set to "available to order" on the website. A lot of these units are not that old, some fairly new. Poxbringer Screamers Seekers Seeker chariot Karanak skull cannon/bloodthrone burning chariot/fateskimmer/exalted flamer Gnarlmaw Fiends Slimux Plague drones soul grinder inernal enrapturess bloodcrushers blue scribes(finecast)-I get this one herald of khorne on juggernaut(I think this is finecast) epidemius(finecast)-I get this one herald of slaanesh(finecast)-I get this one fluxmaster(finecast)-I get this one because GWs product range has long outstripped their capacity for production and retail space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahzek451 Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 45 minutes ago, sarabando said: because GWs product range has long outstripped their capacity for production and retail space. Makes sense, just seems like a chunky part of the army range. 46 minutes ago, Valkyrion said: Being repackaged? I would like to think so, I am really hoping they change the bases of some of the models. I hate using screamers on those tiny clear bases and large models, makes it difficult to get in base-to-base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrion Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Just looking at the list again, you'll probably find a lot of them will end up in the respective combat patrols, if each god gets their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Officer Doofy Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 I too am curious about their combat patrol(s) they will make for daemons to complement the codex. They quit selling the start collecting nurgle daemons months ago, I snagged 3 a few years ago for 15% off, the nurgle one was such a good deal. Blight1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 14 hours ago, Ahzek451 said: Makes sense, just seems like a chunky part of the army range. I would like to think so, I am really hoping they change the bases of some of the models. I hate using screamers on those tiny clear bases and large models, makes it difficult to get in base-to-base. They seem to direct order only a lot of models for ranges that are a little slower to sell, which in turn makes the army sell less. Given there's a lot of people who had marines & daemons in armies in 8th, it'll be good for them to be able to ally without impact again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blight1 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 "Time for the angriest of Daemons - Skarbrand! As is appropriate for Skarbrand, his damage output has gone from "middling" to "through the roof". His bellow has quite literally doubled in potency, and at top profile you get the choice between 9 attacks at S16 ap-4 D3+3 damage ignoring invulns or a whopping 18 at s8 ap-2 d2. His "rage embodied" also remains the same as ever, though the range has shortened a tad to only 6". The beast is no slouch durability wise either - with 20 wounds, t8, and a 4+ save in both melee and shooting, he's far from easy to take down, but if you're still worried just feel free to deep strike him - everyone in daemons can do that, remember? Oh yeah one other thing - he's a Warp Locus." Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/WarhammerCompetitive/comments/w5c8av/chaos_daemons_skarbrand_leak/ Khornestar, Special Officer Doofy and Marshal Valkenhayn 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Officer Doofy Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Ooo skarbrand is lookin' juicy! My Mortarion is jealous, his codex came out too early, before GW starting handing out ignore invulns on everything haha. 18 S8 2ap d2 attacks is amazing. He will finally be that adorable red ball of hate he should be. Thanks for sharing Blight1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeStinyFiSh Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Jep, Skarbrand is bonkers... Good to see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 (edited) About time! Too bad about his "fluffy" movement stat, but so be it. Those attacks are monstrous, and he actually has enough wounds to maybe survive to swing. Lord of Skulls and Skarbrand in a list? Warp Locus on the Lord of Skulls, so ol' Skarbrand can deep strike right next to him 6" away from the opponent (allegedly)! That sounds pretty slick. Edited July 23, 2022 by Khornestar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Khornestar said: About time! Too bad about his "fluffy" movement stat, but so be it. Those attacks are monstrous, and he actually has enough wounds to maybe survive to swing. Lord of Skulls and Skarbrand in a list? Warp Locus on the Lord of Skulls, so ol' Skarbrand can deep strike right next to him 6" away from the opponent (allegedly)! That sounds pretty slick. Rage Embodied is Skarbrand's "ANGRY YELLING THAT DOES DAMAGE" is it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Gederas said: Rage Embodied is Skarbrand's "ANGRY YELLING THAT DOES DAMAGE" is it not? It’s the “everyone’s gonna fight to the death if I can help it” rule: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hathor42 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Fron reddit there also seems a way to deepstrike outside 3 inches and get +1 advance and charge. Also all khorne demons get the no one is falling back part of scarbrands rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 Sigh, does every new codex have to break the game and be/look beyond broken phandaal, BLACK BLΠFLY, Scribe and 2 others 3 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 21 minutes ago, Emperor Ming said: Sigh, does every new codex have to break the game and be/look beyond broken Yes they do. Rules on par with a couple of kindergartners one-upping each other on the playground. What a treat it would be to watch the design process unfold. "I have an INVULNERABLE save!" "Oh yeah? Well I IGNORE invulnerable saves!" "Oh yeah?? Well I ignore THAT!" "Nuh uhh!!" "Yeah huh!!" sairence, Interrogator Stobz, Lord Raven 19 and 3 others 3 1 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Officer Doofy Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 It happens. Tau rail guns, Tyranid's massive buffs, drukhari for awhile after their codex dropped, deathwing perma transhuman. It sucks, but if codexes didn't creep how would they get band wagoners to jump codexes? Interrogator Stobz and phandaal 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hathor42 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 Well ghosts in aos ignore rend and they aren't broken. Blight1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 Geedub they never learn, they never will… they just want to push more plastic. phandaal 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 3 hours ago, phandaal said: Yes they do. Rules on par with a couple of kindergartners one-upping each other on the playground. What a treat it would be to watch the design process unfold. "I have an INVULNERABLE save!" "Oh yeah? Well I IGNORE invulnerable saves!" "Oh yeah?? Well I ignore THAT!" "Nuh uhh!!" "Yeah huh!!" Exactly how I see 9th at this point. Tragic rules, great models though. phandaal 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now