Brother Chaplain Zephyrous Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Let me put it this way, if it could not be ruled out on GW's part from the model size, one could also interpret the last part of the funny aluminium hat video to mean that Cypher is indeed the lion incognito. Constantly on the move here and there to get his own impression of the empire and beyond, and occasionally helping out where he thinks things are going wrong. Girlyman, Crawl and the Emperor were cool with him and who would be most likely to escape from all the dungeons of the Rock than the Primarch himself? It's a pity he carries around the lion sword, which is far too big for him. Because THAT would actually be an a+ plot twist. Guess we'll find out in the next few months what's really planned for that part of the story. El_Dicko and skylerboodie 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) The last part is of course cryptic, as it should be, but my mind takes it as you have all those layers of secrets, and the final secret is empty. You could take that a little more literally to mean that the final secret, which is Luther kept on the rock, is literally empty/nothing now as he dipped out. Edited January 10, 2023 by WrathOfTheLion Brother Chaplain Zephyrous, El_Dicko and Cactus 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandsWithLegs Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 With the tarot, rumors, and hints we've seen I'm guessing the loyalist stuff is going to be saved for the last few books. Assuming we've seen the titles for half of the books in the series, I think the order is going to be something like this: Abaddon, Angron (with a few world eaters models before the full release around the same time), Vashtorr, farsight (with the new model we know is coming), then I'm guessing one called Angels of Death or something similar with primaris Dante and Azrael as a callback to the old angels of death DA/BA combined codex, and finally Lion or something similar as the big conclusion with the primarch himself reawakening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMawr Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Id be very suprised of azrael doesnt come with arks of omen vashtor. BLACK BLŒ FLY, WrathOfTheLion and Sarges 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChargingSoll Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) I'm the opposite I reckon azreal will come with an imperial ark of omens book. Seeing how abbadon came with a box set including him, would be interesting to see how vashtor will be released. Independent or in a box set with other chaos units as that may indicate a pattern for releases with future books. Edited January 11, 2023 by ChargingSoll More info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jings Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Fire and wroth unleashed on sacred rock... painting.for.my.sanity, WrathOfTheLion, N1SB and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) Tower of lightning sounds a lot like the main tower of the Fortress Monastery during the warp storm that tore the planet apart. This of course then became the rock. They're not very subtle at this point, so the rumors here are sounding pretty likely, especially given the icon for the campaign is a cross of Vashtorr's and Dark Angels' iconography. Edited January 13, 2023 by WrathOfTheLion N1SB 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 bit on the nose haha N1SB 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Here's my assumption. Vashtor/Abby/angron siege the rock. They are winning continuously breaching the inner sanctums. They breach the lions vault. The slab where lion sleeps is empty. Suddenly the rock starts to play the doom Slayer theme song. The 3 all at once: *chuckles I'm in danger* ArielRSA, Richard S. Ta, Loquille and 11 others 1 13 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFingers Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Yup, there it is. "A great war. Fire and wrath unleashed upon sacred rock". Richard S. Ta 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jings Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, Triszin said: Here's my assumption. Vashtor/Abby/angron siege the rock. They are winning continuously breaching the inner sanctums. They breach the lions vault. The slab where lion sleeps is empty. Suddenly the rock starts to play the doom Slayer theme song. The 3 all at once: *chuckles I'm in danger* How about this but with a choir? Triszin and RolandTHTG 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praerian Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Yea the rock is also called Tower of Angels or sometimes spire of angels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1SB Posted January 13, 2023 Author Share Posted January 13, 2023 Tell you guys something. Here, visual aid: From my own Tarot deck and this is something I share almost every time I do a reading: Death isn't the worst card...The Tower is. People always assume Death is the worst card, because he's...well, Death. A dead king, people kneeling before him, etc. What he mostly represents is change, like the dead king means a change in the status quo. People are kneeling before Death, but he's not killing them, it's like you'll die UNLESS you adapt to change. The Tower is outright bad. Lightning strikes, people are falling out to their deaths. The Tower is what people assume Death to be. Whoever at GW made these did their research on this one. I mention this because...they outright mention The Rock, it IS way too on the nose, but The Tower card is in normal Tarot decks and it does have exactly the meaning they're going for. It's a clever tie-in with the original meaning. System Sound, skylerboodie, HolyPestilience and 4 others 5 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 There's subtle visual stuff they do to make it have the meaning we see was well. The tower is illuminated green and it sits upon a rock in the middle of the ocean/water at the bottom. N1SB 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMawr Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) The lightning tower is also a pre-existing card in the emperors tarot, hence why I could say last week that this week was likely either the lightning tower or the fortress of faith ;) not meant smug, but, its not all that random, and its the one interesting thing we can do with this weekly tarot is predicting what pre-existing card will align with what storylines. Though I still wonder how many we will see.. all 72 of them is unlikely... They could for example used the fortress of faith (reversed) here with adjusted iconography, and used the lightning tower for a tzeentch thing for example. Edited January 13, 2023 by TheMawr addition WrathOfTheLion, N1SB and painting.for.my.sanity 1 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, TheMawr said: The lightning tower is also a pre-existing card in the emperors tarot, hence why I could say last week that this week was likely either the lightning tower or the fortress of faith ;) So if we get into Luther, we would see something like the dishonoured scion, and the executioner or the lord of swords makes sense if they go straight at us with Lion El'Jonson? Although it looks like they're willing to add them, as some of them aren't in any lists I can find online. It'd be pretty rad if they actually released the Tarot deck after this, that'd be pretty cool. Edited January 13, 2023 by WrathOfTheLion N1SB and gaurdian31 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo1701 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Wouldn’t it be great if Luther and fallen also get models and rules to coincide with the release. BLACK BLŒ FLY, HolyPestilience, Warden-Paints and 1 other 3 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Just now, jimbo1701 said: Wouldn’t it be great if Luther and fallen also get models and rules to coincide with the release. Don't tempt me Frodo! Skywrath and N1SB 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Also the imagery of the Lightning Tower here strongly echoes the tower on the Deathwing Company banner. WrathOfTheLion, Skywrath and jaxom 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isual Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Aren't the Space Marines in general referred to as "Angels of Death"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrox Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Isual said: Aren't the Space Marines in general referred to as "Angels of Death"? They are, but its also one of the very early names that the First Legion were known as, when they fought in the very early days since their creation. Not only that, the other side of the hint is that the old "Codex: Angels of Death" from 2nd edition was a codex that had both Blood Angels and Dark Angels in it. With both DA and BA apparently due to be in the spotlight, the Angels of Death could mean a lot. Fingers crossed anyway! WrathOfTheLion 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Raeven Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 No doubt that's the Tower of Angels. The tower is already ruined, but maybe the card means the Rock itself will recieve some destruction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isual Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, Cyrox said: They are, but its also one of the very early names that the First Legion were known as, when they fought in the very early days since their creation. Not only that, the other side of the hint is that the old "Codex: Angels of Death" from 2nd edition was a codex that had both Blood Angels and Dark Angels in it. With both DA and BA apparently due to be in the spotlight, the Angels of Death could mean a lot. Fingers crossed anyway! I know that it was the name of the very old codex, but if I have learned one thing in all the years as a DA player, it's not to get my hopes up too high. Last time all we got was Azrael jr. and a few bits of fluff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Isual said: Last time all we got was Azrael jr. and a few bits of fluff... That time BT got diddly squat nothing, and look where we ended up painting.for.my.sanity 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMawr Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 17 minutes ago, WrathOfTheLion said: So if we get into Luther, we would see something like the dishonoured scion, and the executioner or the lord of swords makes sense if they go straight at us with Lion El'Jonson? Although it looks like they're willing to add them, as some of them aren't in any lists I can find online. It'd be pretty rad if they actually released the Tarot deck after this, that'd be pretty cool. All of them are so far pre-existing, except I think the Silver key is the renamed Silver door.. and Hound is I think the renamed Jackhal. Those were the only 2 I couldnt find mention of anywhere. To be honest I think the dishonoured scion might be used for Farsight if they use it. Some cards seem to be recurring and I think we will see at least most of those; Galactic Lens The Great Eye Eye of Horus (wich seems to be distinct from the great eye) The Harlequin The Star The Lost Child The Sword/The Lord of Swords (not sure if they are distinct) The Throne/The Emperors Throne (not sure if they are distinct) Then in Avenging Son there are apparently some mentioned ( and I think given how recent these references are, they have a good chance too, especially considering one of them is very relevant to a brand new faction ;) ) The Squat, the Highpriest, The Magus Then the H&B episode has some completely different ones, despite being recent, I do wonder if the developers of that episode based it more on their own ideas than GW ones ; Harbringer The Fool Mortis Faceless Void Sundering the 40k fandom and lexicanum lists dont have clear references, and some of it might be obscure or too ancient ( and might even be wrong, I know their ynnari info is and thats the only thing in 40k I have enough firsthand information on. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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