jaxom Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Marshal Reinhard said: That time BT got diddly squat nothing, and look where we ended up BT had decent lore and a solid chapter identity to build on. Dark Angels, I'd rather have had drought than the vile slurry received post-Indomitus. I half-jokingly expect Primaris Fallen-catchers armed with nets of misery, Storm Speed Fallen-snatchers with trangstor beams, and Deathwing Aggressor Fallen-grabbers with mitts of penitence. phandaal, bloodhound23, WARMASTER_ and 5 others 4 3 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARMASTER_ Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, jaxom said: BT had decent lore and a solid chapter identity to build on. Dark Angels, I'd rather have had drought than the vile slurry received post-Indomitus. I half-jokingly expect Primaris Fallen-catchers armed with nets of misery, Storm Speed Fallen-snatchers with trangstor beams, and Deathwing Aggressor Fallen-grabbers with mitts of penitence. Haha those new supplement successor's were also particularly bad Edited January 13, 2023 by WARMASTER_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twopounder Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 9 hours ago, jimbo1701 said: Wouldn’t it be great if Luther and fallen also get models and rules to coincide with the release.  GW is allergic to Luthor. They don't even have him in 30k. Not sure why, as he'd be a excellent choice for both games. Maybe once all the arks are out and they advance the story a couple of times. Richard S. Ta 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 2 hours ago, twopounder said: Â GW is allergic to Luthor. They don't even have him in 30k. Not sure why, as he'd be a excellent choice for both games. Maybe once all the arks are out and they advance the story a couple of times. Luther hasn't really been in any battles for 30k. It did kind of look like in Book 9 that they were hinting towards a campaign with him involved, but not sure. Arbedark 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChargingSoll Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Wait if the lion returns and the only person that can judge luther is the lion, what would happen to him if they met. Luther just a human Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt_Reaper Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 6 hours ago, ChargingSoll said: Wait if the lion returns and the only person that can judge luther is the lion, what would happen to him if they met. Luther just a human Luther isn't just a human. He was given augmentations to make him as close to Astartes as possible, and was further enhanced by Chaos to bring him up to par with the Lion (even a little stronger) Richard S. Ta and phandaal 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 The new White Dwarf (issue 484) does confirm in a designer interview that there are five books in the series. So there is one further after the Farsight book. I think that lends itself to the original rumor that the final book would be about Lion El'Jonson. HolyPestilience, Karhedron and darkseren1ty 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Angel Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Â 21 minutes ago, WrathOfTheLion said: The new White Dwarf (issue 484) does confirm in a designer interview that there are five books in the series. So there is one further after the Farsight book. I think that lends itself to the original rumor that the final book would be about Lion El'Jonson. Â Valrak is going to be so smug if he turns out to be right. Like measurable from space levels. Karhedron, System Sound, Gamiel and 9 others 3 8 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 If all these hints really are about DA, that makes me happy because it lends more credence to the rumors about an AoD style release in 10th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 4 hours ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: AoD style release in 10th Whats that exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, Emperor Ming said: Whats that exactly? AoD here is Angels of Death, ie. Blood Angels and Dark Angels, not Age of Darkness. In 2nd edition they shared a codex of that name. Emperor Ming and Richard S. Ta 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 15 hours ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: If all these hints really are about DA, that makes me happy because it lends more credence to the rumors about an AoD style release in 10th What else would it be? Like they already revealed azzy. They're anything but subtle with the hinting. We live in the post-Templar refresh era. There's no way it was just azzy and now they're moving on. Brother Borgia, Richard S. Ta, Warp Rider and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChapterMasterGodfrey Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 On 1/15/2023 at 7:34 PM, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: If all these hints really are about DA, that makes me happy because it lends more credence to the rumors about an AoD style release in 10th  I do wonder though if this new/rumoured Angels of Death book might go beyond just Blood Angels and Dark Angels. Perhaps it's THE Space Marine codex supplement. All special characters from DA, BA, SW, UM, IF, SA, RG, IH, WS (and BT, CF, FT & WC); as well as special rules, relics, strats, psychic powers, secondaries etc all in one codex supplement?  Those thin supplements from 8th really had barely any content in them, hardly justifying the individual releases. This way, everyone gets an update, it'll be a more substantial book and GW might avoid the supply issues they've been having with getting books printed and shipped recently.  My only worry is about when this book might come. I think 10th will arrive this year. Either in June or in line with the SM2 game (slam dunk marketing) in autumn. If this Angels of Death book comes out before 10th... even if 10th arrives later '23, that's still a really short lifespan. On the other hand, a model like Robute Guilliman not having a 9th edition datasheet is a bit odd.  Personally, I'd like 10h ed in June. SM codex approximately a month later with Angels of Death supplement launching with it. I really don't see the point in spreading everything about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Angel Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 22 minutes ago, ChapterMasterGodfrey said:  I do wonder though if this new/rumoured Angels of Death book might go beyond just Blood Angels and Dark Angels. Perhaps it's THE Space Marine codex supplement. All special characters from DA, BA, SW, UM, IF, SA, RG, IH, WS (and BT, CF, FT & WC); as well as special rules, relics, strats, psychic powers, secondaries etc all in one codex supplement?  Those thin supplements from 8th really had barely any content in them, hardly justifying the individual releases. This way, everyone gets an update, it'll be a more substantial book and GW might avoid the supply issues they've been having with getting books printed and shipped recently.  My only worry is about when this book might come. I think 10th will arrive this year. Either in June or in line with the SM2 game (slam dunk marketing) in autumn. If this Angels of Death book comes out before 10th... even if 10th arrives later '23, that's still a really short lifespan. On the other hand, a model like Robute Guilliman not having a 9th edition datasheet is a bit odd.  Personally, I'd like 10h ed in June. SM codex approximately a month later with Angels of Death supplement launching with it. I really don't see the point in spreading everything about. To be fair, a lot of the regular codex could be moved to the supplements, such as lore and painting guides. The core codex could do with being lightened, and it would  definitely put more stuff into the supplements. The advantage with having the single overall codex is it makes it easier to update everything at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChapterMasterGodfrey Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 hours ago, The Angel said: To be fair, a lot of the regular codex could be moved to the supplements, such as lore and painting guides. The core codex could do with being lightened, and it would  definitely put more stuff into the supplements. The advantage with having the single overall codex is it makes it easier to update everything at once. If we're lightening the core codex, why stop there? make all the crunch rules digital, easily updateable and free. Have fluff, lore, miniature galery, painting guides, organisation in a beautifly printed tome. A man can dream. skylerboodie, Brother Borgia, Mmmmm Napalm and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcomet Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 25 minutes ago, ChapterMasterGodfrey said: If we're lightening the core codex, why stop there? make all the crunch rules digital, easily updateable and free. Have fluff, lore, miniature galery, painting guides, organisation in a beautifly printed tome. A man can dream. This is the dream skylerboodie, Brother Borgia, Mmmmm Napalm and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt_Reaper Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 So GW just dropped the FAQ for Arks of Omen. Interesting wording in one of the changes: Quote You can include an Adeptus Astartes Primarch unit in a <Chapter> Detachment even if it does not share the <Chapter> keyword of other units in that Detachment. Doing so does not prevent any other units from gaining their Detachment Rules. Note that the Adeptus Astartes Primarch unit will only gain a Chapter Tactic if every <Chapter> unit shares the same <Chapter> keyword. Â Now, why not just say Roboute Guilliman? They specifically mention Abaddon, Shadowsun, Cawl and The Silent King for their specific factions. Just sayin'...kinda weird System Sound, Karhedron, WrathOfTheLion and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylerboodie Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 18 minutes ago, Cpt_Reaper said: So GW just dropped the FAQ for Arks of Omen. Interesting wording in one of the changes:  Now, why not just say Roboute Guilliman? They specifically mention Abaddon, Shadowsun, Cawl and The Silent King for their specific factions. Just sayin'...kinda weird  Expect a new Valrak video on this confirmation of the Lion imminently! WrathOfTheLion, Brother Borgia, beefeb and 2 others 1 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 20 minutes ago, Cpt_Reaper said: So GW just dropped the FAQ for Arks of Omen. Interesting wording in one of the changes: Â Now, why not just say Roboute Guilliman? They specifically mention Abaddon, Shadowsun, Cawl and The Silent King for their specific factions. Just sayin'...kinda weird I think 9E has always had generic language for loyalist Primarchs, but I'd have to go back and check. I remember we talked about it then, for the same reason of being interesting, as it means since the beginning they had the rules capacity to handle a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Valrak Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 31 minutes ago, Cpt_Reaper said: So GW just dropped the FAQ for Arks of Omen. Interesting wording in one of the changes:  Now, why not just say Roboute Guilliman? They specifically mention Abaddon, Shadowsun, Cawl and The Silent King for their specific factions. Just sayin'...kinda weird  Malakithe, System Sound, WrathOfTheLion and 11 others 1 12 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 I will not spruce up my old Deathwing until I finishing converting my Breachers, I will not spruce up my old Deathwing until I finishing converting my Breachers, I will not spruce up my Deathwing until I finishing converting my Breachers. System Sound, Emperor Ming, Skywrath and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 So Guilliman is now best with.... Iron Hands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 9 minutes ago, Orange Knight said: So Guilliman is now best with.... Iron Hands?  No, Guilliman still has the ULTRAMARINES keyword, not IRON HANDS so he will not not gain a Chapter Tactic at all.  Quote Note that the Adeptus Astartes Primarch unit will only gain a Chapter Tactic if every <Chapter> unit shares the same <Chapter> keyword.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Ahh, my mistake. I misread the rule. Â When I glanced at it, in my mind it said that he will gain the chapter keyword as long as every other unit in the army shares the same one. Â Â I was getting excited about adding the Primarch to my Imperial Fists. Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Orange Knight said: I was getting excited about adding the Primarch to my Imperial Fists. Still could be worthwile: "Master of Battle (Aura): Add 1 to Advance and charge rolls made for friendly IMPERIUM units whilst they are within 12" of Roboute Guilliman. Re-roll hit rolls of 1 for attacks made by models in friendly IMPERIUM units whilst their unit is within 12" of this model. You can re-roll Morale tests taken for friendly IMPERIUM units whilst they are within 12" of Roboute Guilliman." Gamiel and BLACK BLÅ’ FLY 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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