Joe Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 (edited) WarCom Article. Was wondering when we'd get the next Siege of Terra novella. I guess this'll be the "Garro dies" book. Edited July 13, 2022 by Joe Preliminary Bombardment, Trysanna, Grim Dog Studios and 2 others 4 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrion Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Knight of Grey is a bit on the nose, isn't it?! quasistellar, Doghouse, MegaVolt87 and 5 others 8 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbero666 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Is this supposed to be before Warhawk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkhorse0607 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Weird timing for this, I feel like it should have come out before Warhawk since we know what happens to Mortarion there Cerbero666 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matcap86 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 As an avid collector of the SoT limited books, I do worry if we're going to be seeing a lot of bloat here. How many more surprise novella's will they add to the set? beefeb 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Dog Studios Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, matcap86 said: As an avid collector of the SoT limited books, I do worry if we're going to be seeing a lot of bloat here. How many more surprise novella's will they add to the set? Could mean nothing or could be a small clue/hint but in the warcom article it says Quote but there are still a dozen stories to tell about this legendary conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quasistellar Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Aw man, I'm a little behind (only halfway through Mortis). I sense that this can only go one way for Garro, though :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Nord in Gravis Armour Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Valkyrion said: Knight of Grey is a bit on the nose, isn't it?! I can hardly wait for Guard of Raven and Scar of White. Preliminary Bombardment, Lord Marshal, Asbestress and 6 others 2 7 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkhanist Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 (edited) Or Eater of Worlds. Oh wait... Edited July 13, 2022 by Arkhanist Aeternus 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 17 minutes ago, Arkhanist said: Or Eater of Worlds. Oh wait... Master of Mankind- damnit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trysanna Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Can't say I'm a huge Garro fan, but that cover art is fantastic. Love the classical knight vs dragon vibe. Starting to think it was a good choice to wait to start the Seige series until now. I have multiple books to look forward to, and hopefully by the time I get to it I'll know when this one takes place Asbestress 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 I guess we finally find out how Garro ends up in the...grey-ve :PÂ Awesome cover, presumably should be set before Warhawk? Special Officer Doofy, Trysanna, de Selby and 2 others 2 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbero666 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Well if is confirmed this is after Warhawk... then what a mess. We already know what happens to Mortarion, and if Garro actually dies as it could be, there's no reference to it in Warhawk, not even by his closest friends like Keeler or Loken. Is like "Oh, ok, it happened, let's move on", just like what happened with Malcador after Fury Of Magnus. I'll wait to read it, but I guess this will be another sync problem between authors as has happened before in the Siege series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trysanna Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, Noserenda said: I guess we finally find out how Garro ends up in the...grey-ve :P Awesome cover, presumably should be set before Warhawk? It's a knight Mortarion won't forget Noserenda, templargdt, Richard S. Ta and 2 others 3 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Officer Doofy Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Cool cover for sure. Title feels like the community page named it haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lansalt Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 22 minutes ago, Cerbero666 said: Well if is confirmed this is after Warhawk... then what a mess. We already know what happens to Mortarion, and if Garro actually dies as it could be, there's no reference to it in Warhawk, not even by his closest friends like Keeler or Loken. Is like "Oh, ok, it happened, let's move on", just like what happened with Malcador after Fury Of Magnus. I'll wait to read it, but I guess this will be another sync problem between authors as has happened before in the Siege series. Indeed. It would have been better if Garro was in the final showndown in Warhawk, because now we have two options, and neither is good. He fights Mortarion before Warhawk: He must die because otherwise he would have joined the Khan for a rematch. But then nobody mentions him in that book, which is nonsense. He fights Mortarion after Warhawk: Okay, he was busy elsewhere returning videotapes or something and missed the battle where Mortarion was banished. So Mortarion comes back again from the warp after a few days/weeks? This clashes with the plot point of Typhon taking command of the DG at the end of that book... Cerbero666 and templargdt 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, lansalt said: Indeed. It would have been better if Garro was in the final showndown in Warhawk, because now we have two options, and neither is good. He fights Mortarion before Warhawk: He must die because otherwise he would have joined the Khan for a rematch. But then nobody mentions him in that book, which is nonsense. He fights Mortarion after Warhawk: Okay, he was busy elsewhere returning videotapes or something and missed the battle where Mortarion was banished. So Mortarion comes back again from the warp after a few days/weeks? This clashes with the plot point of Typhon taking command of the DG at the end of that book... Better if this wasnt written at all. One Marine vs a Primarch. Please GW, just stop. DukeLeto69, 1ncarnadine, Slave to Darkness and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trysanna Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Scribe said: Better if this wasnt written at all. One Marine vs a Primarch. Please GW, just stop. I think it would be worse if they didn't write this. A loyal Death Guard seeing what has become of his Legion, seeing how far they and their father have fallen, the way it would confirm to Garro that what he does is right, all the rich possibilities of writing a showdown between these two, an epic clash that's not about beating Mortarion, but standing against him once again as Garro did when he took the Eisenstein. There so much rich narrative and character material here it would be a waste not to do something with it. quasistellar, Blindhamster, Ubiquitous1984 and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paturabo Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 4 hours ago, Valkyrion said: Knight of Grey is a bit on the nose, isn't it?! I mean just look at the a Iron Hands Primarch Richard S. Ta 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, Trysanna said: I think it would be worse if they didn't write this. A loyal Death Guard seeing what has become of his Legion, seeing how far they and their father have fallen, the way it would confirm to Garro that what he does is right, all the rich possibilities of writing a showdown between these two, an epic clash that's not about beating Mortarion, but standing against him once again as Garro did when he took the Eisenstein. There so much rich narrative and character material here it would be a waste not to do something with it. Its...a narrative already told is it not? I mean people clearly buy the story line, but its never been for me. Will this redeem the arc? Will this add to what should have been a tight series of novels? Maybe for some, but not for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trysanna Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Scribe said: Its...a narrative already told is it not? I mean people clearly buy the story line, but its never been for me. Will this redeem the arc? Will this add to what should have been a tight series of novels? Maybe for some, but not for me. I mean, most of it yes, but not this last climactic note. It's a chance to see the contrast between these two, see how far the son has come, how much he's changed from his old legion and his father. Maybe I'm just a sucker for children spitting in the face of their disappointing and awful parents. Can't say how it'll turn out, obviously, but there's no way I'd pass up the chance to do something, anything, with all that tension and 10 years of storytelling and bring it all home in a climactic moment. 4 minutes ago, Paturabo said: I mean just look at the a Iron Hands Primarch On the nose naming conventions don't count when it's in Latin, obviously :P Paturabo and Asbestress 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, Trysanna said: Can't say how it'll turn out, obviously, but there's no way I'd pass up the chance to do something, anything, with all that tension and 10 years of storytelling and bring it all home in a climactic moment. Fair enough, I jumped ship off of most of the HH arcs a long time ago and had high hopes for the SoT to actually be what they said it would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcomet Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Well rip Garro. It was good knowing you, you where a fantastic character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbero666 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Trysanna said: I think it would be worse if they didn't write this. A loyal Death Guard seeing what has become of his Legion, seeing how far they and their father have fallen, the way it would confirm to Garro that what he does is right, all the rich possibilities of writing a showdown between these two, an epic clash that's not about beating Mortarion, but standing against him once again as Garro did when he took the Eisenstein. There so much rich narrative and character material here it would be a waste not to do something with it. Garro could have just fought Typhus after Warhawk and still would have been an epic clash with the revenge background and brother vs brother thematic, the honor of the old legion, Barbarus Death Guard Vs Terran Death Guard, etc... Also Typhus was the first traitor of the legion, even before Mortarion, I guess Garro blames him as much as the primarch. Using Garro against Mortarion when we know he will probably die, and we already know Mortarion's fate, is anticlimatic tbh. Besides, if that death actually happens and is set before Warhawk would be absurd for his demise not having any emotional consequence in neither Keeler nor Loken, as they don't even mention it in Warhawk. But we already get that with Malcador's fate after Fury of Magnus, not mentioned at all in Mortis nor Warhawk. Edited July 13, 2022 by Cerbero666 Lord Marshal, 1ncarnadine and Scribe 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trysanna Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, Cerbero666 said: Garro could have just fought Typhus after Warhawk and still would have been an epic clash with the revenge background and brother vs brother thematic, the honor of the old legion, Barbarus Death Guard Vs Terran Death Guard, etc... Also Typhus was the first traitor of the legion, even before Mortarion, I guess Garro blames him as much as the primarch. Using Garro against Mortarion when we know he will probably die, and we already know Mortarion's fate, is anticlimatic tbh. Besides, if that death actually happens and is set before Warhawk would be absurd for his demise not having any emotional consequence in neither Keeler nor Loken, as they don't even mention it in Warhawk. But we already get that with Malcador's fate after Fury of Magnus, not mentioned at all in Warhawk. Well I haven't read Warhawk, but either way Garro vs Mortation is what we have and it has potential to work well as a story moment, even if it's not what you wanted/would have done Asbestress 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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