Lord Dacius Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 In Galaxy In Flames, when the Death Guard break warp in the Istaavan system to meet with Horus, Angron, and the EC. Garro gives a description of the Vengeful Spirit, saying that one of the barrels on an accelerator cannon was as long as the Death Guard Ship Endurance, which I understand to be at the least a Strike Cruiser sized vessel. So how big is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hrvat Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 Huge. It could fit 25 companies of Space Marines, each 600 strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Traben Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 Huge. It could fit 25 companies of Space Marines, each 600 strong. Weren't Luna Wolves companies 300 strong each? :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hrvat Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 I don't have the books at hand right now so can't give you a direct quote. There is a scene when Loken goes to attack and is in the embargation decks, there is some mention of Stormbirds and how many there are (6) and that each can carry 50 marines and then the book mentions the other 6 were in the other launching area. So 6+6 = 300+300 > 600. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Traben Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 I don't have the books at hand right now so can't give you a direct quote. There is a scene when Loken goes to attack and is in the embargation decks, there is some mention of Stormbirds and how many there are (6) and that each can carry 50 marines and then the book mentions the other 6 were in the other launching area. So 6+6 = 300+300 > 600. Okay, does Loken's company have 300 or 600 astartes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultramarine of death Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 Vengful spirit is very big...........simple as Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Payton Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 There is a picture in Collected Visions, which puts it, if we assume a strike cruiser to be I kilometre long, at over I kilometre high and at least five long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 Do you really need to quantify your imaginary super spaceships of death? It's big. By which I mean BIG. Really as big as it needs to be to instill the singular idea that it's big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legionator Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 It was second only to the Phalanx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electriceye Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 How big was the Phalanx?^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodied_fist Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 If i recall correctly, the Phalanx was Death Star sized.... I will have to check the IF IA article again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atin Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 it is worth noting that the upper size of an Imperial Escort mentioned is 30 kilometers from the Black Library story Wolf Pack by Gordon Rennie, though the HDMS Lord Solar Macharius from Rennie's novel Execution Hour is noted to be just 3 kilometers long. The general consensus in many novels is that escort vessels are anywhere between 750 meters and 2 kilometers in length, light and standard cruisers are anywhere between 2500 and 3500 meters, grand cruisers anywhere between 3000 and 4500 meters, and battleships range from 4500 to 6000 meters, with certain rare vessels exceeding this range. (An example would be Warmaster Horus' flagship, which was noted in the Horus Heresy series as being nearly 15 km long.) The general aspect ratio of standard imperial ships of cruiser or greater size average 1/6th (prow) to 1/5th (stern) of the total length of the vessel in height. This excludes the large number of prominences such as sensor arrays and additional decking which tend to exceed this height amidships. Overall, a 6 km long grand cruiser would have an average height of approximately 1 km. this seems to be about right.. so 15 km long, if a ship of 6 km long is 1 km in height 15 would be around the 2? 2,5? cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiros14 Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Do you really need to quantify your imaginary super spaceships of death? It's big. By which I mean BIG. Really as big as it needs to be to instill the singular idea that it's big. Sigged B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electriceye Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 And to be fair, I think duct taping a flamer to a boltgun wouldnt be sufficient. Its gaff or nothing round here :whistling: So are we agreed on the vengeful spirit being 15km long, 6 high? What ever happened to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vissah Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 In Soul Hunter the Vengeful Spirit is present in Abaddon's fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atin Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Abaddon the failure still uses her in his black crusades. and is the core of his black legion fleet. as discribe in the latsted night lords novel.. ( soul hunter ) but then again in soul hunter it was boarded by blood angels.. so hopefully it is blown up :tu: cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 I just agree with Rain entirely :tu: it was HUGE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jipimus Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 I would reckon about the size of Spaceball 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorschach Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 In Galaxy in Flames, during the part where they are still hiding Keeler, it is described as being "the size of a city". Consider you average Imperial city... and you have your answer ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ubermensch Commander Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 Just big enough to make the enemies of Mankind wonder if Horus was compensating for something... :blush: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artein Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 If i recall correctly, the Phalanx was Death Star sized.... I will have to check the IF IA article again... And is Phalanx still around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Stonewalled Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 Yes the Phalanx is still around. As far as I know Lysander is the Watch Master. On size the Phalanx was described to be the size of a moon, I think it was in Flight when Garro blew the warp drive and it drew level with the Eisenstein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burias-Drak'shal Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 The Phalanx is the base of the imperiaol fist chapter as they have no homeworld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Payton Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 The Phalanx is the base of the imperiaol fist chapter as they have no homeworld. Actually, their de facto homeworld is Terra, from where they still recruit occasionally. De jure it is the Phalanx, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Rathul Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 Smaller than the Phalanx! As a matter in fact......much,much smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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