 Angelus Class Rhino - Mark X armour upgrade., Rhino conversion |
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 Jun 27 2006, 09:59 AM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+  Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 2746 Joined: 30-January 04 From: The Imperium of Man Member No.: 8947 Chapter Name: The Guardian Angels  |
Hi there!
I'm currently working on the plans and templates for a Rhino conversion I will be doing, but alas I haven't got access to a Rhino right now, so I was wondering if someone here might be kind enough to post the length and height of a Rhino from front to back and from the bottom of the tracks to the top of the exhaust pipes. Thanks! EDIT! Changed the topic from being a measurement question to being about the Mk X armour upgrade for the Rhino, making it what I've dubbed the Angelus Class Rhino. Look further down the thread for the Angelus. ie. here: http://bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?s...dpost&p=1041493 This post has been edited by Chaptermaster Graymantle: Jun 28 2006, 07:56 PM --------------------  |
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Jun 27 2006, 03:45 PM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 63 Joined: 3-June 05 From: Halfway to Discordia Member No.: 17899 |
Hi there ive just measured a fully built rhino and the dimensions are so : Height = 5cm. Length = 12cm. And the width if you want it is 8cm.Hope this helps.
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Jun 27 2006, 04:09 PM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 1321 Joined: 19-August 02 From: Ipswich, Suffolk. UK Member No.: 164 |
this is actually againt board rules iirc as even the dimension (especailly for use in a template) are considered IP
though im sure a mod will sort this if it is out of bounds millest -------------------- Google won't search for Chuck Norris because it knows you don't find Chuck Norris, he finds you!!
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Jun 27 2006, 06:07 PM
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 ++CONTERO++  Group: ++ MODERATI CEDO ++ Posts: 4891 Joined: 28-April 04 From: Herzele, Belgium Member No.: 10716 Chapter Name:Salamanders, Thousand Sons |
QUOTE (millest @ Jun 27 2006, 06:33 PM)  this is actually againt board rules iirc as even the dimension (especailly for use in a template) are considered IP though im sure a mod will sort this if it is out of bounds millest Templates are OK as long as they are for his own use. Giving measurements is cool (this sounded a lot better in my head  ).
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Jun 27 2006, 06:19 PM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 2746 Joined: 30-January 04 From: The Imperium of Man Member No.: 8947 Chapter Name: The Guardian Angels |
Thanks, I really appreciate it!
Measurements aren't IP as you cant copyright five by twelve cm - it doesn't give the look of a rhino, just a rectangle. - And I wont be building a Rhino, I will be making an add on to a Rhino to make it look a bit different. Thanks again! 
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Jun 27 2006, 06:21 PM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 211 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Ayr, Scotland Member No.: 13464 |
QUOTE (Obliterator @ Jun 27 2006, 07:31 PM) Templates are OK as long as they are for his own use. Giving measurements is cool (this sounded a lot better in my head ). a mod made an innuendo! lolno but seriously I think Oblit is right, personal use is ok. They really can't sting you for that --------------------  This Jervis sig is fictional...it never happened |
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Jun 27 2006, 07:53 PM
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++CONTERO++ Group: ++ MODERATI CEDO ++ Posts: 4891 Joined: 28-April 04 From: Herzele, Belgium Member No.: 10716 Chapter Name:Salamanders, Thousand Sons |
QUOTE (Commander Trask @ Jun 27 2006, 08:45 PM) a mod made an innuendo! lolMost of us are only human, you know. * bzzzzz, rrrrt 100111000011001110011100011 * > UNABLE TO COMPLY > ENTER COMMAND > UNABLE TO COMPLY > ENTER COMMAND > UNABLE TO COMPLY > ENTER COMMAND > UNABLE TO COMPLY > ENTER COMMAND > UNABLE TO COMPLY > ENTER COMMAND > UNABLE TO COMPLY > ENTER COMMAND -------------------- |
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Jun 27 2006, 07:57 PM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 459 Joined: 16-May 06 From: Bristol, UK Member No.: 20923 Chapter Name:Knights of the Phoenix |
Hang on a second....
Obliterator is a mod. and he just posted somthing that could be called spam... *falls violently off chair* *and rolls down stairs* (just in case this is also spam, I always thought the mods were real hard...) This post has been edited by Yamez: Jun 27 2006, 08:03 PM -------------------- B&C Xfire cult. Sign up! < You don't have to even own DoW, just have Xfire.
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Jun 27 2006, 08:14 PM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 1321 Joined: 19-August 02 From: Ipswich, Suffolk. UK Member No.: 164 |
QUOTE (Yamez @ Jun 27 2006, 09:21 PM) Hang on a second.... Obliterator is a mod. and he just posted somthing that could be called spam... *falls violently off chair* *and rolls down stairs* (just in case this is also spam, I always thought the mods were real hard...) they are but only when discussing measurements.  i wasnt sure on the dimensions things as in the past things like this have been pulled for giving out info like that! millest -------------------- Google won't search for Chuck Norris because it knows you don't find Chuck Norris, he finds you!!
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Jun 27 2006, 08:27 PM
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++CONTERO++ Group: ++ MODERATI CEDO ++ Posts: 4891 Joined: 28-April 04 From: Herzele, Belgium Member No.: 10716 Chapter Name:Salamanders, Thousand Sons |
QUOTE (Yamez @ Jun 27 2006, 10:21 PM) and he just posted somthing that could be called spam... Not spam, just an attempt at humor. I took a workshop, you know... -------------------- |
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Jun 27 2006, 08:38 PM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 71 Joined: 10-April 06 From: England - SE Member No.: 19774 Chapter Name:Grey Ghosts |
whats the add on for the rhino gonna be?
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Jun 27 2006, 08:46 PM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 165 Joined: 20-February 03 Member No.: 4414 |
QUOTE (millest @ Jun 27 2006, 08:38 PM) QUOTE (Yamez @ Jun 27 2006, 09:21 PM) Hang on a second.... Obliterator is a mod. and he just posted somthing that could be called spam... *falls violently off chair* *and rolls down stairs* (just in case this is also spam, I always thought the mods were real hard...) they are but only when discussing measurements. i wasnt sure on the dimensions things as in the past things like this have been pulled for giving out info like that! millest lmao,and i hope im not the only one to catch that on the topic of templates I've always wanted to scratchbuild a rhino just to see how itd come out and how much time it'd take. |
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Jun 27 2006, 08:51 PM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 305 Joined: 29-June 04 From: Ballard, Seattle, WA Member No.: 11756 Chapter Name:Pariahs |
ROFL!!!! I caught that too... oh god, help me... That was wrong Millest.... just... wrong!!
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Jun 27 2006, 09:44 PM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 2746 Joined: 30-January 04 From: The Imperium of Man Member No.: 8947 Chapter Name: The Guardian Angels |
QUOTE (Grey Ghost @ Jun 27 2006, 09:02 PM) whats the add on for the rhino gonna be? I will try to make a new side and top to the Rhino, making it look more like a small Land Raider'ish vehicle.It is based on an image I saw on the net around a year ago and its been floating around in my head since then. - Figured I would try to get it done before I play in Medusa V to give my army more of the theme and feel I want for it (a bit technologically different - high-tech). The add-on will probably count as extra armour. Thanks again for all your help!
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Jun 27 2006, 10:01 PM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 1100 Joined: 7-November 04 From: Batavia New York USA Member No.: 14275 |
Are you going to flip the tracks to mimic the profile of the raider, or just have an angle in the back flanking the acces ramp to convay the look?
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Jun 27 2006, 10:49 PM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 2746 Joined: 30-January 04 From: The Imperium of Man Member No.: 8947 Chapter Name: The Guardian Angels |
I believe there will be more of an angle in the back, but it wont really look like a landraider, it will just have a bit more of that feel I think.
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Jun 28 2006, 12:47 PM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 71 Joined: 10-April 06 From: England - SE Member No.: 19774 Chapter Name:Grey Ghosts |
when ready your gonna have to show us - can't wait to see it
also i think i remeber one of the imperial armour books having scalled drawings in them and also the new codex books have side on drawings you could work from as a reference - don't want to breach ip here! mods frag me if i have! -------------------- I would put something intresting in here if I could think of anything!
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Jun 28 2006, 01:12 PM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 370 Joined: 25-May 05 Member No.: 17801 |
mmmm... my rhino is slightly larger than that.
must have assembled it a bit funny. -------------------- Da Bestest IG forum on the web
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 Jun 28 2006, 03:25 PM
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 ++MANUS NOCENTIBUS++ Group: ++ MODERATI CEDO ++ Posts: 2009 Joined: 11-July 03 From: Aalborg, DK Member No.: 6637 Chapter Name:Black Templars |
QUOTE (pinkbunny @ Jun 28 2006, 09:36 AM) mmmm... my rhino is slightly larger than that. The size of the Rhino doesn't matter. It is how you rush it that counts and Chaptermaster Graymantle: do you happen to have the picture that inspired you handy? I am getting very curious as to the details of your plans. Cheers -t14 -------------------- |
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Jun 28 2006, 04:49 PM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 2746 Joined: 30-January 04 From: The Imperium of Man Member No.: 8947 Chapter Name: The Guardian Angels |
It is based on an image I saw way back of a Rhino conversion I believe was called the Squat Rhino.
It at least in my mind looks more high-tech than the regular Rhino and as such it fits my Chapter quite well. I will use it as an Extra Armour upgrade. Unfortunatly I dont know who made the original, but all honour goes out to the original designer; all I've really done is copy the design from the image and updated it for the Mk II Rhino. Here is a rough of what it will look like: Work in progress! 
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Jun 28 2006, 05:32 PM
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++MANUS NOCENTIBUS++ Group: ++ MODERATI CEDO ++ Posts: 2009 Joined: 11-July 03 From: Aalborg, DK Member No.: 6637 Chapter Name:Black Templars |
That looks freakin' cool
1 minor quib though: You would do well to remove the "mesh" areas on the front and rear portions of the sides though, as this is unmistakably reminiscent of the mk1 rhino. How about recreating the layered armour patterns of the mk2 instead? I CANT wait to see some WIP shots  EDIT: Oh, and put some smokestacks in the rear somehow to tie in with the dread & LR look. It would probably be hard if you intend to stick an access ramp in the back, but that aside, rear smokestacks would look awesome. cheers -t14 This post has been edited by Templar14: Jun 28 2006, 05:33 PM -------------------- |
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Jun 28 2006, 06:17 PM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 211 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Ayr, Scotland Member No.: 13464 |
from the concept photo i can say wow that smokes!
however start building the tank so we can all see how good it will be! -------------------- This Jervis sig is fictional...it never happened |
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Jun 28 2006, 06:44 PM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 63 Joined: 3-June 05 From: Halfway to Discordia Member No.: 17899 |
Looks good so far, Cant wait to see the idea fleshed out. Hows the top of the rhino gonna look?
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Jun 28 2006, 08:10 PM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 2746 Joined: 30-January 04 From: The Imperium of Man Member No.: 8947 Chapter Name: The Guardian Angels |
QUOTE (Templar14 @ Jun 28 2006, 05:56 PM) You would do well to remove the "mesh" areas on the front and rear portions of the sides~ I will try it out with the MkII plates instead of the mesh areas, however I kinda like the mesh.Oh, and put some smokestacks in the rear somehow to tie in with the dread & LR look. It would probably be hard if you intend to stick an access ramp in the back, but that aside, rear smokestacks would look awesome. I feel it adds detail and character to the new design as well as making it distinctly different from the regular Rhino. I will keep the rear access hatch, so there wont be a rear engine or smokestacks. - It would look cool though, but seeing as how I will use this as a beefed up Extra Armoured Rhino, I don't see it happening  QUOTE (Commander Trask @ Jun 28 2006, 06:41 PM) from the concept photo i can say wow that smokes! Alas I am multitasking on 19 different projects right now and I'm trying to get most of them done before Medusa V begins, in addition to that there's my job and other RL concerns, so it will be a while before I get around to modeling it, but maybe on Monday.however start building the tank so we can all see how good it will be! Sooo, I'm afraid your going to have to be patient QUOTE (The Gunslinger @ Jun 28 2006, 07:08 PM) Looks good so far, Cant wait to see the idea fleshed out. Hows the top of the rhino gonna look? I'm not entirely sure how the top will look yet as the original is kinda bland on the top.I will probably make it a bit different from the original, adding in more details; then again I might keep it rather straight. - What I do know is that I will try to tool it extra for city fights seeing as how there will be a lot of that at Medusa V. Thanks for your replies, your suggestions and your positive feedback, its really appreciated! 
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Jun 28 2006, 08:13 PM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 71 Joined: 10-April 06 From: England - SE Member No.: 19774 Chapter Name:Grey Ghosts |
me like me like
especially the half covered tracks definetly looks more high teck and armoured to the kilt -------------------- I would put something intresting in here if I could think of anything!
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