Brother Christopher Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 I love making paper models, I always did. I also like Warhammer very much. And one day I decided to combine my two biggest passions. A long time ago, I found somewhere in the Internet templates for a Thunderhawk gunship. Normally it costs A LOT. But it also has the looks and I always wanted one for my Crusade. So I've bought some polystyrene sheets and got cracking. All in all, I'm going to post here WIP pictures of my cheap Thunderhawk. Here's the first picture: an interior wall. http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4179/p1050844v.jpg I'll be posting more pictures soon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251905-scratch-build-bt-thunderhawk/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
reckoning Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Always exciting watching someone undertake a project like this. Makes me jealous I dont have the skills for it. Looking forward to its completion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251905-scratch-build-bt-thunderhawk/#findComment-3054869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T14 Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Looking great. I look forward to following your progress Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251905-scratch-build-bt-thunderhawk/#findComment-3054901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Avenger Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 This is a topic I'll be following with great interest. I love the Thunderhawk, but I'm a long way off being able to buy one. Sadly, I'd prob'ly make a mess of it if I tried to scratch build one but I'm looking forward to watching yours take shape in future updates. Good luck, dude... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251905-scratch-build-bt-thunderhawk/#findComment-3055118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
merc3065 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 I am in the middle of doing the same thing, however just so everyone knows, doing all those little pipes and wires and light fixtures and doing it all in plasticard/greenstuff is enough to make you INSANE. Just wait until you get to the cockpit area, that is a real treat once it's completed. I wanted to rip my hair out after completing 2 prior attempts with different failures for each. I have attempted this with foam core (I wasn't sure how to deal with the thickness of the foam core and still maintain the interior/exterior sizes, so that failed) I have attempted this with heavy card stock 150lb (I didn't realize white glue literally destroys and warps card stock beyond use because of the water content) I have to know what thickness of sheets are you using for the sides, floor and so on? What glue are you using? I stuck with super glue as it's all I have. I am using 0.25mm thickness styrene sheets and plan to layer as per the instructions to give it some rigidity. As it stands right now it's pretty flimsy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251905-scratch-build-bt-thunderhawk/#findComment-3055668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Christopher Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 Thanks for you replies and interest. Hopefully, I'll post today another picture: the opposite interior wall. @ merc3065 I'm using sheets of different thickness at my own discretion. However, I use mainly 1mm thick sheets, at least for now: for the interior walls and planning to use it for the the outside plating too (I guess that most paper models are designed for 1mm cardboard). My biggest concern though is the engines - plasticard/polystyrene doesn't bend easily and I can't find pipes of the required diameter. For those, I'm planning to use 2-3 layers of 2,5mm : the idea is that they will be more malleable. As for the glue, I'm using the expensive Army Painter Plastic Glue (polystyrene cement). Yes, it is expensive but is simply amazing: when it comes to joining plastic bits it's strong like super glue but doesn't ruin your fingers and doesn't glue your skin to the model :tu: . For the pipes (which are made from metal paper-clips) super glue is a must. I hope this answers your questions ;) . I'm also a plasticard novice - this is my first attempt at making "plastic" models, so I'm definitely no expert and my knowledge is rather limited and comes entirely from my small experience. EDIT: Pictures!! :) 2nd interior wall: http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/6171/p1050848du.jpg the two walls together: http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/3592/p1050849.jpg and some more: http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/1719/p1050851p.jpg http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/7408/p1050850v.jpg[/img] Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251905-scratch-build-bt-thunderhawk/#findComment-3055721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Christopher Posted May 19, 2012 Author Share Posted May 19, 2012 Well, making models in the eve of the examination session isn't a good idea. Here's some progress though. The side walls and the floor are primed, the ceiling and the back wall are almost done. http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/3047/p1050865p.jpg http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/6865/p1050860l.jpg http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/8990/p1050859v.jpg And a dry fitted major-part of the interior (can't wait to paint and assemble it!). http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/5668/p1050862g.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251905-scratch-build-bt-thunderhawk/#findComment-3064837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Sellsword Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Extremely cool! I built a land raider a while back and my biggest issue was the weapons. Are you planning on scratch building or adding weapons from your bits box? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251905-scratch-build-bt-thunderhawk/#findComment-3064843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Christopher Posted May 19, 2012 Author Share Posted May 19, 2012 Glad you like it. I'll use spare Lascannons from the Razorback box, but I don't have 4TL HV Bolters, so I'm planning to scratch build them. It is a long way, though. As I've written before: my biggest concern are the engines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251905-scratch-build-bt-thunderhawk/#findComment-3064882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montpup Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 I am in the middle of doing the same thing, however just so everyone knows, doing all those little pipes and wires and light fixtures and doing it all in plasticard/greenstuff is enough to make you INSANE. Just wait until you get to the cockpit area, that is a real treat once it's completed. I wanted to rip my hair out after completing 2 prior attempts with different failures for each. I have attempted this with foam core (I wasn't sure how to deal with the thickness of the foam core and still maintain the interior/exterior sizes, so that failed) I have attempted this with heavy card stock 150lb (I didn't realize white glue literally destroys and warps card stock beyond use because of the water content) I have to know what thickness of sheets are you using for the sides, floor and so on? What glue are you using? I stuck with super glue as it's all I have. I am using 0.25mm thickness styrene sheets and plan to layer as per the instructions to give it some rigidity. As it stands right now it's pretty flimsy. check out world work games, they are a paper terrain company, ive brought some of their stuff but they have very detailed basic tutortails on how to work with card stock including what glue to use having seen this now im going to give it a go myself, i'm not going to do the inside detail as i'm lazy and i glue all my models shut anyway so you never see the insides my local GW manger told me never to buy the forge world one as the kit doesnt go togeather well (he then showed me the thunderhawk and he may a swell have made it from greenstuff considering the amount he has to use filling gaps) so thank you for inspiring me and im looking forward to seeing how you progress Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251905-scratch-build-bt-thunderhawk/#findComment-3064896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Sellsword Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 For the lazy people out there... http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2...8698&type=1 as for the engines, have you considered PVC pipe or even wooden rods? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251905-scratch-build-bt-thunderhawk/#findComment-3064926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Hey dude, those are awesome!!!! I have those same templates....makes me want to dig them out..... If you're willing to make it a little bit easier on yourself, I came up with the following solution for engines, as well, I could'nt be bothered Very simple and straight forward, both Storm Raven engines glued end on end. for the T/Hawk you'd need to bitz hunt for 3 pairs of engines, but it'd save a shirt-load of time. Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251905-scratch-build-bt-thunderhawk/#findComment-3064940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Christopher Posted May 19, 2012 Author Share Posted May 19, 2012 Again, thanks for your replies ;) . The Facebook TH... it's splendid! It differs from the standard, FW model. But is sort of unique... It would be cool to build one, however it is something impossible for me right now. @ Brother Sellsword Yes, I considered using those, but can't find the right diamiter (and I'm quite pedantic and want it to be the right size). But making those is reserved for the future. @ Grotsmasha I sort of would like to make it easier, but getting Storm Raven engines is impossible for me: the prices are just killing! I want to make this "project" as cheap as possible, because it is just a modelling-hobby thing. I honestly doubt that I will ever be able to field my entire force, including the (hopefully) finished Thunderhawk. And now a cliché: I'm a student and don't have enough funds :tu: "normal" Warhammer and assembling my "normal" crusade demands a lot of sacrifice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251905-scratch-build-bt-thunderhawk/#findComment-3064978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
merc3065 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I have to point something out about the roof of the cargo bay. You need to make sure there is a tiny space between those 2 boxes for the support beam that goes between the 2 outer walls. I found this out when making the paper card version of it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251905-scratch-build-bt-thunderhawk/#findComment-3067680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Christopher Posted May 30, 2012 Author Share Posted May 30, 2012 I need you advice on this one: This is supposed to be the floor of the cockpit which is supposed to be covered in anti-slip metal :P . I know it is not perfect, well in fact it doesn't look good at all. What do you think about it? I'm considering leaving it (because it will not be visible) or making a smooth floor. What do you think? Keep it or leave it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251905-scratch-build-bt-thunderhawk/#findComment-3073596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaptermasters Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 If it was me, I'd want to get all the basic structure in place for the psychological win, then do the external detail. Then I'd game with it and probably never get around the cockpit. You could try diagonal strips of card, but as long as you paint on lines afterwards I think the dots will work fine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251905-scratch-build-bt-thunderhawk/#findComment-3073606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
merc3065 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 If you haven't already committed to gluing the modeled tread plate, checkout here. There are already embossed styrene sheets that have the tread plate on it already. Embossed tread plate sheet styrene Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251905-scratch-build-bt-thunderhawk/#findComment-3074396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Sellsword Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 That's good stuff, I've also seen screening material ( for doors and windows ) cut to size, glued and painted looks great too! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251905-scratch-build-bt-thunderhawk/#findComment-3074548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Christopher Posted June 13, 2012 Author Share Posted June 13, 2012 Finally, after most of the examination session done, I had some time to paint something. With the humble Crusade Expansion done it was time for my Thunderhawk. I couldn't resist the urge to put the model together, or at least the cargo bay. And assembling it meant painting, a whole day of painting in fact. I had to get it finished during the weekend. Well, here are the results: http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/8156/p1130176e.th.jpg http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/3414/p1130177u.th.jpg http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/5674/p1130178.th.jpg http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/298/p1050870n.th.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/7933/p1050871w.th.jpg http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/8820/p1050872v.th.jpg http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3889/p1050873e.th.jpg http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8697/p1050874m.th.jpg http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/3298/p1050875m.th.jpg http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8937/p1050876c.th.jpg http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/2389/p1050877w.th.jpg http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/7615/p1050878q.th.jpg http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/4789/p1050879i.th.jpg http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/5063/p1050880x.th.jpg http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/369/p1050881v.th.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251905-scratch-build-bt-thunderhawk/#findComment-3084645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Christopher Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share Posted June 15, 2012 A quick update: the result of today's work. It still needs some upgrading... http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3118/wp000044e.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251905-scratch-build-bt-thunderhawk/#findComment-3086514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Sergeant Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 I wish I had your level of patience and dedication. It's turning out really, really well at this point. Have to empathize with not wanting to buy a Forgeworld model. You pay them hundreds of dollars (or whatever play money they use in your country), and they ship you a model that is miscast and barely fits together, lol. The lack of QA absolutely astounds me, especially for big ticket items. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251905-scratch-build-bt-thunderhawk/#findComment-3086549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Yellow Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 I need you advice on this one: This is supposed to be the floor of the cockpit which is supposed to be covered in anti-slip metal :) . I know it is not perfect, well in fact it doesn't look good at all. What do you think about it? I'm considering leaving it (because it will not be visible) or making a smooth floor. What do you think? Keep it or leave it? You can get this stuff online, search for 'diamond tread plate' Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251905-scratch-build-bt-thunderhawk/#findComment-3086553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Angel Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 this is quite a tallent. that reminds me of when i used to work on helicopters, the walls look JUST LIKE THAT. im excited for this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251905-scratch-build-bt-thunderhawk/#findComment-3086582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Christopher Posted June 18, 2012 Author Share Posted June 18, 2012 @Veteran Sergeant Funny you say that, but it's not about patience... well, this is just fun and a way of killing the time in the evenings. I'm more worried with my determination, which can fade as the time passes... As I've said - I want to keep the cost down as much as it is possible and I want to have some Thunderhawk. The probelm is that due to the constant lack of time I'm not much of a player and I have the models just for the sake of having them and painting/modelling. And for a original TH are equal to a good Nikon camera or a decent laptop. FW are crazy with their prices! @LamenterMarine Yeah, I thought about buying it, but I can't find that anywhere near my location. @War Angel Thanks for the huge compliment :) I was glad to hear that. I have a question to you, more experienced modellers. I'm thinking about future transport of the TH. It is a big model, and I'm thinking about magnetizing it so that the front (cargo bay) back/middle (everyging from the cargo bay, to the rear engine) and wings are detachable. It would make transporting and storing the flyer a lot easier. However, I'm sort of worried about the integrity of the model. Do you think neodymium magnets can join the parts solidly so that the assembled model won't fall apart? The various parts of the finished model (especially the front part) will be quite heavy and I'm afraid that the model will "break" while standing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251905-scratch-build-bt-thunderhawk/#findComment-3088627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
merc3065 Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 I think pegging the wings vs magnets might be a better idea for the larger parts. It also won't eat your credit card/debit card if it gets too close to your wallet! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/251905-scratch-build-bt-thunderhawk/#findComment-3144850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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