Cornelias Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Hi guys, just about to start work on my new project! I've been a massive fan of the SOTE chapter since owning Advanced Space Crusade back in the day. I've always toyed about with the idea of doing a full on army but just didn't get past the concept stage, that time is now over as i embark on my most ambitious project yet. This army will be themed around a newly formed 3rd Company made up of Salvation squads of scouts ( inspiration from the Legends of the space marines short story) with supporting elements from the main battle company of surviving Scythes of the Emperor Marines. First off i have designed the chapter banner, as the company's main focus is the search and rescue of surviving marines and equipment aboard hive ships, the company sigil will be a candle to represent a light in the darkness for their lost brothers! http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa54/cornelias/SOTE/3COMPANYSOTE.jpg My starting point as always for any army will be the commander, who atm i'm planning on being a Shrike counts as captain and command squad. Trying to decide on a more ornate colour scheme for the captain or the traditional SOTE colours... http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa54/cornelias/SOTE/spacemarinesotetac.jpghttp://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa54/cornelias/SOTE/spacemarinesotecapt.jpg UPDATES Test Scout Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253370-orphans-of-the-kraken-wip/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyen Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Well I can say without a doubt that I am a fan off the Scythes. I am just not sure what you are going for by making the commander... brown? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253370-orphans-of-the-kraken-wip/#findComment-3074311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Keep the normal colour scheme, it looks ace. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253370-orphans-of-the-kraken-wip/#findComment-3074314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornelias Posted May 31, 2012 Author Share Posted May 31, 2012 it'll be more of a deep gold/bronze colour ;) space marine painter doesn't show metallic very well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253370-orphans-of-the-kraken-wip/#findComment-3074316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyen Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Understandable on the painter with the metallic colors. I had similar grief with a gunmetal paint job. I have to say I agree with Reyner on the paint scheme. But that is my own personal opinion. Don't let it hinder you at the least, I still look forward to the models! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253370-orphans-of-the-kraken-wip/#findComment-3074324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eetdestroyer Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 I like the deep bronze idea \m/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253370-orphans-of-the-kraken-wip/#findComment-3074342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0MMY Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Maybe do a test marine of each and show us the difference on a model? Like the army fluff btw. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253370-orphans-of-the-kraken-wip/#findComment-3074348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicced Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 vote for traditional scythes heraldy and why should he look like on of dantes golden boys anyway :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253370-orphans-of-the-kraken-wip/#findComment-3074388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yak Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 I am a big fan of the Scythes also, there is lots of character in an army that's on the brink of annihilation. Being a Raptor player when I first saw your alternate scheme I thought Yes brown cammo! To me it would make sense for the few remaining marines to adopt a more pragmatic ideology. I believe that somewhere in the fluff there is a schism between the few surviving Scythes, those who wish to remain true to the chapters history and go down fighting in a heroic last stand and those including the current leader who wish put the chapters survival first. I understand that your idea was for metallics but I agree with Wicced that the "Dante's glory boys" image wouldn't suit the Scythes. The original scheme is a beast also! Whatever you decide to do good luck with the project! The Yak Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253370-orphans-of-the-kraken-wip/#findComment-3074424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preacher No'ki Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Really liking the background for the company. :) Always liked the scythes. I'd agree with Tommy, try doing a test model for both schemes. At one point I'd painted the Centurion for my Astral Claws in a dark bronze/gold colour, mainly to show his Artificer armour. However after a while I felt he looked too out of place, so I guess it's down to personal preference. Looking forward to seeing him either way. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253370-orphans-of-the-kraken-wip/#findComment-3074425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 I'm a fan of the traditional scheme, but as an alternative, why not replace the existing yellow sections with a more yellowish gold? Either way this'll be a project to follow. Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253370-orphans-of-the-kraken-wip/#findComment-3074554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornelias Posted June 4, 2012 Author Share Posted June 4, 2012 First Update! Started work on my Shrike "counts as" complete with "counts as" master crafted lightning claws. Waiting on a Forge World jump pack with Imperial Eagles from the Red Scorpion range and still to add a little green stuff sculpting, purity seals etc. http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa54/cornelias/SOTE/SOTEcaptainfront.jpg http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa54/cornelias/SOTE/SOTEcaptainleftside.jpg http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa54/cornelias/SOTE/SOTEcaptainrightside.jpg Still not sure about traditional colour scheme over bronze for the painting, think I'll decide right before i pick up a brush ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253370-orphans-of-the-kraken-wip/#findComment-3077833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 I love the Company Banner ^_^ I'm a big fan of all of the old "forgotten" Chapters, such as the Scythes of the Emperor etc . I also like the "counts as" Lightning Claws. Where are those scythes from? Will be watching with interest ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253370-orphans-of-the-kraken-wip/#findComment-3077887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyen Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 I like it. It has a simplicity behind it that seems to me to make it stand out. As for the color issue why don't you throw together a test model for each color? If anything it is good practice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253370-orphans-of-the-kraken-wip/#findComment-3077890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornelias Posted June 4, 2012 Author Share Posted June 4, 2012 yeah, think i'll work on a test model or 2 this week while i await more bits and finish off a few loose ends, great advice. The scythes were a pretty easy 3 part conversion: the blades are from vampire counts zombies, the shafts from some chaos terminator power axes and the handle part at the bottom is from the sheathed chaos berzerker swords, surprised how good it turned out myself. thanks for the input guys ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253370-orphans-of-the-kraken-wip/#findComment-3077898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 yeah, think i'll work on a test model or 2 this week while i await more bits and finish off a few loose ends, great advice. The scythes were a pretty easy 3 part conversion: the blades are from vampire counts zombies, the shafts from some chaos terminator power axes and the handle part at the bottom is from the sheathed chaos berzerker swords, surprised how good it turned out myself. thanks for the input guys ;) I honestly thought they were one piece, rather than three. Looks very good in either case! ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253370-orphans-of-the-kraken-wip/#findComment-3077902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Scythes of the Emperor, yeeeeaaaahhhh ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253370-orphans-of-the-kraken-wip/#findComment-3077905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
irwit Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 First Update! Started work on my Shrike "counts as" complete with "counts as" master crafted lightning claws. Waiting on a Forge World jump pack with Imperial Eagles from the Red Scorpion range and still to add a little green stuff sculpting, purity seals etc. http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa54/cornelias/SOTE/SOTEcaptainfront.jpg http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa54/cornelias/SOTE/SOTEcaptainleftside.jpg http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa54/cornelias/SOTE/SOTEcaptainrightside.jpg Still not sure about traditional colour scheme over bronze for the painting, think I'll decide right before i pick up a brush :) As it is still early days I would say your guy looks more like he is about to go mountainering than holdinga scythe. http://www.climb365.net/Images-middle-pic/winter-images/winter-ice-climbing-course.jpg A Sycthe is a large two handed weapon. Personally I would go more http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2008/11/29/2489_md-Conversion,%20Greenstuff,%20Grey%20Knights,%20Robed,%20Scythe,%20Warhammer%2040,000,%20Work%20In%20Progress.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253370-orphans-of-the-kraken-wip/#findComment-3077971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excubitor Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Just to throw this out there, maybe go for the standard colour scheme on your captain but use gold instead of the yellow. Keeps it true to form but looks that little bit more ornate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253370-orphans-of-the-kraken-wip/#findComment-3078023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badaab Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Not a bad model, although if you're looking to emulate Shrike, I would recommend something a little more dynamic with the posing (especially if he's getting a jump pack). Another small change you might make on the weaponry- perhaps swap the zombie parts (which are a bit chunky looking and might work better on a Chaos model) for scything talons from the Hormagaunt model... it would also tie the character back into the chapter's history a little more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253370-orphans-of-the-kraken-wip/#findComment-3078125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Claw Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 I personally think the scythes look fine, not all scythes are big two handed beasts after all.... http://www.khplanet.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=133&pictureid=3898 I do agree that the pose itself is a little static, mainly just down to the legs. With adding the jump pack you have a real opportunity to go down the whole 'swooping run' with the scythes extended to the sides, which would also suit the avian look you've got going with the corvus helm, something a little like this: http://th05.deviantart.net/fs70/150/i/2011/096/8/4/ninja_running_by_rafdomingos-d3dde9s.png Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253370-orphans-of-the-kraken-wip/#findComment-3078328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicced Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 i personally like the sickles he's carrying, though i have to agree on the static pose. a counts as shrike should look more dynamic in my opinion. to clarify: long two handed spearlike handle= scythe short handle= sickle and what dragon claw posted is a kusarigama, basically a sickle with a chain and weight attachment Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253370-orphans-of-the-kraken-wip/#findComment-3078425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Yellow Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 i personally like the sickles he's carrying, though i have to agree on the static pose. a counts as shrike should look more dynamic in my opinion. to clarify: long two handed spearlike handle= scythe short handle= sickle and what dragon claw posted is a kusarigama, basically a sickle with a chain and weight attachment What he said Personally I think the two sickles makes perfect sense. Someone mentioned the use of tyranid claws for them, very fluffy indeed. So fluffy I want to pat it on the head and give it a name....fido Current credit £0.02 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253370-orphans-of-the-kraken-wip/#findComment-3078695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornelias Posted June 5, 2012 Author Share Posted June 5, 2012 yeah i see what you guys are saying about the static pose, back to the drawing board it is. I'll just pull the arms and redo the body etc. I am pretty pleased with the small scythes (sickles), i think they have better synergy with the chapter symbol and add to that i have plans for a two handed scythe carrying character but more on that later :P I'll possibly rework this body for the company champion or something.... Thanks as ever for the input guys :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253370-orphans-of-the-kraken-wip/#findComment-3078799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 yeah i see what you guys are saying about the static pose, back to the drawing board it is. I'll just pull the arms and redo the body etc. I am pretty pleased with the small scythes (sickles), i think they have better synergy with the chapter symbol and add to that i have plans for a two handed scythe carrying character but more on that later :P I'll possibly rework this body for the company champion or something.... Thanks as ever for the input guys :P you could always do a "Darth Maul" and have a double sided Scythe instead ;) I'd like to see that, although how practical it would be on a battlefield is anyone's guess :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/253370-orphans-of-the-kraken-wip/#findComment-3078801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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