twopounder Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 I'm working on a sword that I may have 3d printed in the near future. I'm still playing with some of the ideas for it. Heck, I might make a set of them with different themes/words. This one says "Eternal Vigilance." I'm feeling that the blade is not long enough in proportion to the cross guard and grip. Any thoughts? I went ahead and removed the old (and much worse) sword, since this one is finished: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GunMonkey/AngelSwordFinished_zps2babeca9.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GunMonkey/AngelSwordFinished2_zpsfde08ec8.png Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262006-angel-sword/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypher 102 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Are you wanting something along the lines of this: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IHYqcwlilhQ/SbbS.../s320/sword.png That hollow spot in the middle will make the piece very easy to break and is kind of unrealistic as real blades have a tang that runs into the handle. http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/sword-making-diagram.jpg Although I could see some sort of gemstone placed in there. The cross guards do look a little long. The rest of it looks good. Are you just making one piece or putting this into production? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262006-angel-sword/#findComment-3190482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
twopounder Posted September 29, 2012 Author Share Posted September 29, 2012 Not quite. That's closer to a gladius. I'm making more unique designs. Though I definitely need to add a winged cross guard to the lineup. I may cross this: http://www.instablogsimages.com/images/200...word12_3858.jpg With this: http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2012...ter_Asmodai.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262006-angel-sword/#findComment-3190493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypher 102 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 I was talking about the wording on the sword and not the shape with my first picture. A winged hilt would be cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262006-angel-sword/#findComment-3190592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotobuki Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Blade on that design definitely needs to be longer. The script running out into the point just looks wrong. I would like to echo the concern for the frailty of the blade's base. Very easy breakage point there. Not from a historical perspective, just from a "there isn't much there" perspective. Also, seems a little Voltron-y for my tastes, but that's personal aesthetics. I know it's WIP, are you planning on doing more with the grip/pommel? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262006-angel-sword/#findComment-3190798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
twopounder Posted September 29, 2012 Author Share Posted September 29, 2012 Blade on that design definitely needs to be longer. The script running out into the point just looks wrong. I would like to echo the concern for the frailty of the blade's base. Very easy breakage point there. Not from a historical perspective, just from a "there isn't much there" perspective. Also, seems a little Voltron-y for my tastes, but that's personal aesthetics. I know it's WIP, are you planning on doing more with the grip/pommel? The grip I'm not sure. Usually you would just snip off the grip and use an existing sword arm, pinning the blade and pommel in place. Though it wouldn't take much to add some detail to the grip. I'm still deciding what to do with the pommel, but I may just archive this as a learning experience and start from scratch. @cypher102 - Sorry, I was tired and just focused on the pictures, completely missed the text. I usually make my stuff public on shapeways, but I haven't done anything in a while. The intent was to be more stylized and depart from traditional swords to make something unique, even if less realistic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262006-angel-sword/#findComment-3191044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
twopounder Posted October 1, 2012 Author Share Posted October 1, 2012 Alright, sword part 2: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GunMonkey/swordWIP1_zps7b7f89e6.png This is just a 2d outline so far. I haven't started the 3d business yet. I'm currently running a livestream too, if anyone is interested in partaking. You can find it here. Edit: Here are a few variations I'm working on - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GunMonkey/swordv2b_zps86e197e6.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GunMonkey/swordv2a_zpsd646141a.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GunMonkey/swordv3_zps781a65c3.png One final update (I'm getting tired): http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GunMonkey/swordvsmarine_zps40306e69.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GunMonkey/swordteaser1_zps1e0b1a2a.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GunMonkey/swordteaser2_zpscb789aa9.png Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262006-angel-sword/#findComment-3192498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kovash Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 I like the second version much better. The first sword looks cool, but would probably snap when parried by a hard enough counter strike. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262006-angel-sword/#findComment-3192707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypher 102 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Me likey! It looks a lot better with the tips of the wings going up towards the tip if the blade. Only other suggestion I have is that Dark Angels tend to have a diamond shaped pommel. Are you still going to put some script on the blade itself? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262006-angel-sword/#findComment-3192721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
twopounder Posted October 1, 2012 Author Share Posted October 1, 2012 I like the second version much better. The first sword looks cool, but would probably snap when parried by a hard enough counter strike. Probably, but I made it purely for aesthetics. Honestly, nothing in 40k would actually work, so it would be right at home :) Me likey! It looks a lot better with the tips of the wings going up towards the tip if the blade. Only other suggestion I have is that Dark Angels tend to have a diamond shaped pommel. Are you still going to put some script on the blade itself? I haven't really finished the pommel, but I may actually make a set of them. From plain to ornate. I'll most likely put something on the blade. So many options, so many ideas >_>. By the way, if anyone has sketches, drawings, etc, I don't mind making them into 3d for printing. Might take some time depending on what I have on my plate, but I'm always interested in practice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262006-angel-sword/#findComment-3192771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemid Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 I like the second design that you shooped into some reference pictures much better, but the length of the grip is ridiculous. Two handing it and still having that much again left over in grip would be incredibly unweildy and looks disproportionate, IMO. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262006-angel-sword/#findComment-3192816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
twopounder Posted October 1, 2012 Author Share Posted October 1, 2012 I like the second design that you shooped into some reference pictures much better, but the length of the grip is ridiculous. Two handing it and still having that much again left over in grip would be incredibly unweildy and looks disproportionate, IMO. I'm still adjusting the scale. The grip is a separate component that can be modified. I'll probably cut some 33% from it. Though there are several swords in existence with quite the over sized grip. Anyway, an update: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GunMonkey/AngelSwordFinalDraft2_zpsb821ae60.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GunMonkey/AngelSwordFinalDraft_zps743f534c.png And the words fully engraved: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GunMonkey/test2_zpsf3568b49.png Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262006-angel-sword/#findComment-3192821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kovash Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 I like the second version much better. The first sword looks cool, but would probably snap when parried by a hard enough counter strike. Probably, but I made it purely for aesthetics. Honestly, nothing in 40k would actually work, so it would be right at home ^_^ Haha come on, everything in 40k is totally plausible! However, you can always find a way to work your aesthetics into a model that would actually work in the real world. Your latest design looks great, I'd probably shorten the grip just a little bit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262006-angel-sword/#findComment-3192863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
twopounder Posted October 1, 2012 Author Share Posted October 1, 2012 I made some fixes, including the grip. Should be a bit cleaner now: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GunMonkey/HomeStretch2_zps425e15cd.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GunMonkey/HomeStretch1_zps8b658003.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GunMonkey/AlmostDone1_zpsf455ff47.png Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262006-angel-sword/#findComment-3192880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemid Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Much better IMO :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262006-angel-sword/#findComment-3192887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
twopounder Posted October 1, 2012 Author Share Posted October 1, 2012 Much better IMO :) Thanks :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262006-angel-sword/#findComment-3192896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
twopounder Posted October 3, 2012 Author Share Posted October 3, 2012 Well, it be done. I still have to clean it up for 3d printing, but this is what it looks like: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GunMonkey/AngelSwordFinished_zps2babeca9.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GunMonkey/AngelSwordFinished2_zpsfde08ec8.png I still want to make different pommels, blades, and cross guards. It could definitely make veterans more diverse. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262006-angel-sword/#findComment-3194714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elphilo Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Wow. That is just freaking awesome man! Now I'm jealous that I can't do that lol B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262006-angel-sword/#findComment-3194908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
twopounder Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 Wow. That is just freaking awesome man! Now I'm jealous that I can't do that lol :cuss Thanks! Honestly, it just takes time. It's a bit of an information overload at first, but you just keep at it and you'll surprise yourself. I never thought I'd be capable of making something like that sword. As long as you stay out of your comfort zone, you'll constantly improve. I mean, look at the difference a single practice session makes: From this - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GunMonkey/sword2_zps81e535f7.png To this - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GunMonkey/AngelSwordFinished2_zpsfde08ec8.png You don't know until you try :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262006-angel-sword/#findComment-3195956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Much better -- now very much an Unforgiven sword :huh:. Cheers I Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262006-angel-sword/#findComment-3199057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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