CosmicCreations Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 A while ago I was asked to undertake a rather large commission from a previous customer of mine. Using just FW models, I was to build a large Salamander army. After much discussion and many changes made, the final colours and plan was laid down and I got to work. Neither of us are fans of the usual bright green, covered in yellow and red flames style of Sallies, so I went for a darker, more Olive Green, and Bright Brass trim for flames and other details. The first batch of this army was.. Vulkan He'stan Commander 3x Contemptors 2x Predators 1x Vindicator Command Squad 4x Tactical Squads 1x Veteran Squad 1x Heavy Bolter Squad After a few weeks of painting, my customer asked if he could have them back over the summer to play some games with, he would then return them to me in September, with a currently unknown 2nd batch of a few more tanks and bits and bobs to completely finish. So, I very quickly had to get them done to a good quality just for the table for some games, and they will be finished properly later in the year. But that's enough typing for the moment, you can all look at the shiny interesting photos ;) http://i.imgur.com/8iNTuKZ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/e3AFdxs.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ed8tJAy.jpg http://i.imgur.com/7vDxiOA.jpg http://i.imgur.com/79ZN2ck.jpg http://i.imgur.com/gl0ySAo.jpg http://i.imgur.com/J612i9L.jpg http://i.imgur.com/giO58mx.jpg http://i.imgur.com/w1PWVJF.jpg http://i.imgur.com/hdoNm82.jpg http://i.imgur.com/3TqZmaR.jpg http://i.imgur.com/gd7ZTgO.jpg http://i.imgur.com/FOXU6Fu.jpg There will be some changes and improvements made to them come September, mainly the shoulder pad inserts will be changed to Black and the bases will be redone, as well as small details such as pouches and eyes. I also believe that I will be redoing Vulkan He'stan, to make him more in-keeping with the Heresy Style. But for now this is the first lot done to a basic standard. One more thing, this army is being used with the 40k rules. And since I don't play the game at all, I cannot answer any questions about legality or why Vulkan He'stan is in a Heresy Era army....that's not down to me, I just paint ;) Hope you enjoy, Cosmic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276558-heresy-era-salamander-army-commission/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiserTJ1860 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 I have to say, I'm a fan of the more muted greens and the muddied golden helms for the HQ's and more important personel. My only grip would be the skin tone of the unhelmeted marines. With Sally's being so distinctly "onyx skinned with red eyes" im wondering if this was a request by the client or not? going to the pains of getting a 30k army - the fluffiest type you could collect in my mind - I would go all out to make it as true to the fluff as poss. But then again I am a fluff-aholic. In any case, if this is a quick job, I cant wait to see what they look like when they're finished! Best, TJ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276558-heresy-era-salamander-army-commission/#findComment-3389617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicCreations Posted June 7, 2013 Author Share Posted June 7, 2013 I have to say, I'm a fan of the more muted greens and the muddied golden helms for the HQ's and more important personel. My only grip would be the skin tone of the unhelmeted marines. With Sally's being so distinctly "onyx skinned with red eyes" im wondering if this was a request by the client or not? going to the pains of getting a 30k army - the fluffiest type you could collect in my mind - I would go all out to make it as true to the fluff as poss. But then again I am a fluff-aholic. In any case, if this is a quick job, I cant wait to see what they look like when they're finished! Best, TJ You're spot on, TJ, the skin tone was a request. My client feels that's most of the veterans are from Terra and still retain their usual pale skin tone, so each to their own :) Thank you for the kind words, I'm excited to get these back so I can finish these properly! Cosmic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276558-heresy-era-salamander-army-commission/#findComment-3389640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 I have to say, I'm a fan of the more muted greens and the muddied golden helms for the HQ's and more important personel. My only grip would be the skin tone of the unhelmeted marines. With Sally's being so distinctly "onyx skinned with red eyes" im wondering if this was a request by the client or not? going to the pains of getting a 30k army - the fluffiest type you could collect in my mind - I would go all out to make it as true to the fluff as poss. But then again I am a fluff-aholic. In any case, if this is a quick job, I cant wait to see what they look like when they're finished! Best, TJ Until a few years they were just dark skinned, not dark elves. Could be the customer is just going with what he knew to the skin coloration for years, and was the fluff until someone decided it would be cooler to have them turned in Drow Space Marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276558-heresy-era-salamander-army-commission/#findComment-3389968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Lucian Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Damm, those are excellent! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276558-heresy-era-salamander-army-commission/#findComment-3390092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimdarkness Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Love them look great. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276558-heresy-era-salamander-army-commission/#findComment-3390120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Hey Cosmic, this is really high quality stuff... Is the tone of the green also a request by the client? Personally (although technically top notch) I could have mistaken them for Raptors Chapter... In my mind Salamanders are associated with a more vibrant green. But as you correctly pointed out, each to their own! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276558-heresy-era-salamander-army-commission/#findComment-3390124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakiq Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Incredible looking army. Was also confused by the pale skin, but the veterans being from Terran stock was a good explanation. Until a few years they were just dark skinned, not dark elves. Could be the customer is just going with what he knew to the skin coloration for years, and was the fluff until someone decided it would be cooler to have them turned in Drow Space Marines. They were actually described as coal black even back in Rogue Trader. When Armagedon rolled around the 'Eavy Metal painters misinterpreted that as African rather than (as you said) Drow. Hey Cosmic, this is really high quality stuff... Is the tone of the green also a request by the client? Personally (although technically top notch) I could have mistaken them for Raptors Chapter... In my mind Salamanders are associated with a more vibrant green. But as you correctly pointed out, each to their own! Didn't the Index Astartes article as well as the Salamander novel describe pre-heresy Salamanders as having darker green armour? I seem to recall them finding a stash of dark green MKIII armour with Salamanders icons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276558-heresy-era-salamander-army-commission/#findComment-3390156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicCreations Posted June 8, 2013 Author Share Posted June 8, 2013 Hey Cosmic, this is really high quality stuff... Is the tone of the green also a request by the client? Personally (although technically top notch) I could have mistaken them for Raptors Chapter... In my mind Salamanders are associated with a more vibrant green. But as you correctly pointed out, each to their own! :D Hi Semper, The green was something of my choosing, my client had a very specific idea of the green he wanted, however, matching the exact tone was very difficult and personally I wasn't a fan of it as I felt it wouldn't match the other details he wanted. We agreed on the final scheme o be a darker and dirty, battle ready style As such, I painted up a quick tester in this scheme and he loved it, so it stuck :) Thank you everyone, next time you see this army, they should be complete and slightly different! So keep your eyes peeled :) Cosmic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276558-heresy-era-salamander-army-commission/#findComment-3390330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert2004 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 This is amazing, I wish I was half as good at painting as you are! Could you tell me where you get your paint brushes and what you would recommend for someone who is trying to improve their painting skills? Fantastic, really love your work! Very well done sir!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276558-heresy-era-salamander-army-commission/#findComment-3390637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicCreations Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share Posted June 9, 2013 This is amazing, I wish I was half as good at painting as you are! Could you tell me where you get your paint brushes and what you would recommend for someone who is trying to improve their painting skills? Fantastic, really love your work! Very well done sir!!! Hi, Robert I get my brushes from Creative Models Ltd, their own brand Kolinsky Sable brushes are really good. I mainly use an Airbrush now though. Thank you for the kind words, I'm still improving myself and I'm regularly in awe at some of the work on here and everywhere else! Just keep practicing and use the countless tutorials found all over the web, they really help :) Cosmic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276558-heresy-era-salamander-army-commission/#findComment-3390816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJB Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Man these are beautiful... The mixture of armour marks, the use of different kits and not forgetting the paint scheme itself I'm building a pre heresy Blood Angels force at the moment and I'll be taking a lot of inspiration from these guys Again, very nicely done Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276558-heresy-era-salamander-army-commission/#findComment-3392769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicCreations Posted June 12, 2013 Author Share Posted June 12, 2013 Man these are beautiful... The mixture of armour marks, the use of different kits and not forgetting the paint scheme itself I'm building a pre heresy Blood Angels force at the moment and I'll be taking a lot of inspiration from these guys Again, very nicely done Hi, Keith Thank you very much :) I'm glad you like them. There will be some slight changes come September but I'm sure there will be some great extras added to it, I'm not too sure what else my customer has planned yet! Are there pictures of your Blood Angels? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276558-heresy-era-salamander-army-commission/#findComment-3392934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapter master Benji Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 like the grim dark look. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276558-heresy-era-salamander-army-commission/#findComment-3393031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greylocke Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Incredible looking army. Was also confused by the pale skin, but the veterans being from Terran stock was a good explanation. Until a few years they were just dark skinned, not dark elves. Could be the customer is just going with what he knew to the skin coloration for years, and was the fluff until someone decided it would be cooler to have them turned in Drow Space Marines. They were actually described as coal black even back in Rogue Trader. When Armagedon rolled around the 'Eavy Metal painters misinterpreted that as African rather than (as you said) Drow. >Hey Cosmic, this is really high quality stuff... Is the tone of the green also a request by the client? Personally (although technically top notch) I could have mistaken them for Raptors Chapter... In my mind Salamanders are associated with a more vibrant green. But as you correctly pointed out, each to their own! Didn't the Index Astartes article as well as the Salamander novel describe pre-heresy Salamanders as having darker green armour? I seem to recall them finding a stash of dark green MKIII armour with Salamanders icons. I think in the original fluff (RT) the sallies were what is now DA green. The DAs having black armour at that time. And I also believe that they had no visible insignia. All the sallies could see in Infra Red so the insignia was only visible to those who could see IR. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276558-heresy-era-salamander-army-commission/#findComment-3393486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 He head on the multi melta marine is that from sgt chronus? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276558-heresy-era-salamander-army-commission/#findComment-3393607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicCreations Posted June 13, 2013 Author Share Posted June 13, 2013 It is indeed. It was sitting in the packaging of the finecast Vulkan He'stan :P nice little accidental freebie! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276558-heresy-era-salamander-army-commission/#findComment-3393622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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