Heimdall Skullcrusher Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 There seems to be the current version of the battle tank sold by GW and a slightly older version you can find other places. Can anyone tell me about any differences? Is one better or worse than the other? Thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281117-leman-russ-battle-tank-versions/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerEightBall Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 If I'm not mistaken, they only sold two variants before the current kit: The Battle Cannon (all plastic) and the Demolisher (plastic chassis and metal turret). The new kits are the battle tank that has the parts to make the classic battle cannon, eradicator, exterminator, and vanquisher variants. The seconds kit has the parts to make the demolisher, punisher, and executioner variants. Along with the hull and sponson options. And it all depends on the list you build on which is better, and what you want it to do. I hope that answers your question. I'm guessing some of the stores have some of the old boxes left in stock that they're trying to sell off. Maybe you can get a discount! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281117-leman-russ-battle-tank-versions/#findComment-3479083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimdall Skullcrusher Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 Yeah, I'm a sucker for magnetizing every single weapon option on a tank so its probably better for me to spend the extra couple dollars on the new kit than buying the old one. Thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281117-leman-russ-battle-tank-versions/#findComment-3479131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerEightBall Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I'll be honest I haven't bought the new Leman Russ kits either, but I do envy. The chimera and hellhound got the same treatment and I'm happy with the chimera I bought. Here's hoping we get a medusa/colossus/griffon/hydra kit or two with our new codex. Magnets are truly a gift from the Omnissiah, GW finally caught up with kits that let us use them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281117-leman-russ-battle-tank-versions/#findComment-3479151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanfield Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 on the new kits the tracks are diferant the side hatch's(small ones ) are moulded on and the turret and hatch are diferant the turret is flater and the turret ring is moulded onto the turret ,that being said the turret ring hatch assembly has changed before from the old over lay type from the first russ kit . also you now get enough sponson weapons/nose gun to equip how you like rather than the old limited numbers from the old kit Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281117-leman-russ-battle-tank-versions/#findComment-3479153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 The new kit is vastly superior. Easier to do the tracks, lots more weapon options and you can easily swap the sponson and hull weaponry out. It's pretty easy to magnetise the turret weapons too. I still prefer some of the aesthetics of the original though, the offset engine on the rear looks better I reckon and you can do more with the additional space for gubbins and the like. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281117-leman-russ-battle-tank-versions/#findComment-3479190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FashaTheDog Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I've wondered about the new kits, can you easily do double wide tracks like the old one? Below is a Demolisher and a Russ without sponsons that show what I mean about double wide tracks. http://s22.postimg.org/wxmn3n8k1/Tanks.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281117-leman-russ-battle-tank-versions/#findComment-3480021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanfield Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 you can but it would need some bracing inside the tack sections and maybe plastic card strips under the tracks them selves Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281117-leman-russ-battle-tank-versions/#findComment-3480289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FashaTheDog Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 So unlike the old kit, I can't double the wheels and tracks for a real simple conversion. Good to know I will need to do a modicum more of work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281117-leman-russ-battle-tank-versions/#findComment-3480565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 The tracks are more slot fit, like Marine vehicles. I never got the appeal of double tracks, they take up enough space as it is! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281117-leman-russ-battle-tank-versions/#findComment-3480609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FashaTheDog Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 The single track makes me think that mischievous Marines could go Leman Russ tipping in the middle of the night. Actually, the extra width gives me the impression that it can better handle over mud, much like how the Tiger I E's wider treads allowed it to handle better in muddy conditions as it's greater weight was better distributed than the Sherman's was as the M4 actually had greater pressure per square inch despite being a lighter vehicle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281117-leman-russ-battle-tank-versions/#findComment-3480659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodemus Doloroso Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 In addition to what's already been written, there is a slight difference in the turret shape/size between the older and newer version. The older one was a bit taller, whereas the new one is thinner. The old turret also had some sort of box on the side (for sensors, perhaps?). Here's an example of two of my own tanks for illustration: Old turret: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qIVCObsoRF8/Tq9CwyR0WII/AAAAAAAAAVc/k71ctvbBHrs/s1600/Leman+Russ.JPG New turret: http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2013/4/26/489222_md-.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2013/4/26/489224_md-.JPG Oh yeah, just remembered looking at those pics, that the old kit came with track guards and the new one doesn't. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281117-leman-russ-battle-tank-versions/#findComment-3480687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I miss the old turret and track guards :( The new turret is good enough I suppose but I've got a set of the FW track guards I want to use on a CCS Chimera and I'm not sure if it'll fit any more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281117-leman-russ-battle-tank-versions/#findComment-3480703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanfield Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 you can still get the sprue from mail order with the track guards Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281117-leman-russ-battle-tank-versions/#findComment-3480887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Yeah, but only four - one for each limb. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281117-leman-russ-battle-tank-versions/#findComment-3481157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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