CommissarHughes Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 OK, for the upcoming Horus Heresy box set coming out, the store I go to is going to do a big legion campaign where we take pre heresy legions and make them fantastic. I like Magnus, psykers, and I want a counter to my space wolves, so my choice was obvious. My question is however, what colors exactly should I be using with them? They're red, but is it Mephiston or Korn? should I base it one and then layer evil sunz on top? What dry brushes should I use? Should I use gold or brass? I know there aren't any pre-heresy rules for them, but is there any sort of equipment or units the legion prefers? Just, could you please tell me anything and everything I need to know to make a good Thousand Sons army on the table? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315462-thousand-sons/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I did mine with Mephiston -> Carroburg -> Wild Rider -> Carroburg -> Bloodletter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315462-thousand-sons/#findComment-4210762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calas Typhon Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I believe they are defiantly a Mephiston red with white/gold trim by most accounts. I always presumed them to be a lighter shade of red to the Blood Angels if not near on the same colour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315462-thousand-sons/#findComment-4210765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archidamus Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I've been using Mephiston red followed by washing agrax earthshade into the reassess- it takes a while sometimes. I follow this up with a edge highlight of evil suns scarlet, and then extreme highlights with wild rider red. I took it from a video that GW did on how to paint Blood Angels. I've found it very easy to follow and it looks really nice on the table top. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9HzqHVg1uE These are two of my Thousand Sons painted up- the only difference is that I did my sergeant with a gold trim and my Centurion has the ivory/white trim. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315462-thousand-sons/#findComment-4210766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Once upon a time I got this answer from FW about what colour they use for theirs: Thousand Sons paint schemeRed armour colourBase coat of Mephiston Red followed by a highlight of Evil Suns Scarlet. This is then shaded with acouple of thin washes of Carroburg Crimson.GoldBase coast of Balthasar gold. This is then highlighted with a mix of Balthasar gold and Auric Armour in a25/75 ratio. This is followed by a further highlight of Auric Armour and then finally with a mix of AuricArmour and Runefang Steel in a 50/50 ratio.BasesBasecoat of Dryad Bark which is then drybushed with a 50/50 mix of Tallarn Sand and AdministratumGrery. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315462-thousand-sons/#findComment-4210860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Huh. My totally winged it recipie was actually pretty close to FWs. Who wouldve thought. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315462-thousand-sons/#findComment-4210862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I think this is the only model they have shown in Thousand Sons colours so far: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99590101380_LEGIONMEDUSA3.jpg I don't know of any other at least. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315462-thousand-sons/#findComment-4210867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarHughes Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 Exactly what is so special about the white shoulder pads versus gold Also, is there any part where I can put on some green for a good contrast with the red? Would the gun work like a negative 40K dark angel, or would that be to much? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315462-thousand-sons/#findComment-4210951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archidamus Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Exactly what is so special about the white shoulder pads versus gold Also, is there any part where I can put on some green for a good contrast with the red? Would the gun work like a negative 40K dark angel, or would that be to much? The pads for me are just a preference. Though I'm starting to use gold for line officers/squad leaders and white/silver for everyone else. Most of the inspiration for it comes from the A Thousand Sons cover artwork and the imagine of the a Thousand Sons legionnaire that FW showed a while back. Aside from the eye lenses I cant really think of many places to do green. Maybe the wax on purity seals. I did mine in blue since my Blood Angels have green seals. Though there's nothing stopping you from making a part of the model green and coming up with a small reason to justify it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315462-thousand-sons/#findComment-4210983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalvationOfReason Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Eye pieces are a great place for green. Gun casing is pretty much up to you, if you think red on red is too much. Remember, modelers descretion ^^ As for the ivory/gold thing, there's Pre-Heresy/Heresy artwork showing 1k Sons with white trim/markings, gold trim/markings, and both white and gold trim/markings. Legion symbol, on the other hand, is almost always white when portrayed on a shoulder pad or other armor piece. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315462-thousand-sons/#findComment-4210984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Eye pieces are a great place for green. Gun casing is pretty much up to you, if you think red on red is too much. Remember, modelers descretion ^^ As for the ivory/gold thing, there's Pre-Heresy/Heresy artwork showing 1k Sons with white trim/markings, gold trim/markings, and both white and gold trim/markings. Legion symbol, on the other hand, is almost always white when portrayed on a shoulder pad or other armor piece. Indeed. When testing colours for my Thousand Sons I tried both white and gold and liked the gold best, though that is a personal decision and both are correct. There are so many different companies out there with different markings...even for a small legion as Thousand Sons. But as stated above, the legion symbol has always been white. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315462-thousand-sons/#findComment-4211173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Hopefully they will be included in the hh masterclass book along with the other legions. I'm hoping we will get more info on the sons in feb. For now though I was told that they weren't working on the book (at the open day) maybe that order has been rescinded now, who knows!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315462-thousand-sons/#findComment-4211195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoPityNoRemorseNoFear Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 So is MK IV armour the standard armour for SoH during the HH then? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315462-thousand-sons/#findComment-4211509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 So is MK IV armour the standard armour for SoH during the HH then? MkIV is the most widespread mk among the traitors at the dawn of the heresy as Horus had been using his influence as Warmaster to get all the good stuff funneled to his own and allied legions :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315462-thousand-sons/#findComment-4211618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoPityNoRemorseNoFear Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 So is MK IV armour the standard armour for SoH during the HH then? MkIV is the most widespread mk among the traitors at the dawn of the heresy as Horus had been using his influence as Warmaster to get all the good stuff funneled to his own and allied legions But Magnus was never really allied to Horus and actually plotted against him and all artwork seems to show them in MK III. I might hold off using this HH box set for TS in the hope that another with MK III comes out instead. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315462-thousand-sons/#findComment-4211635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarHughes Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 To be honest, I don't know and can't honestly say I care to much yet. I'll find the details eventually, but it's not unreasonable that one company in the legion were given the armor early for testing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315462-thousand-sons/#findComment-4211642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalvationOfReason Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Not to mention, I remember hearing about at one of the last FW Opens/HH events, that, when asked about what armor marks 1k Sons used, the reply was that their upgrade kits matched up with mk iv. Food for thought. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315462-thousand-sons/#findComment-4211724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 The old visions were a blinged version of mk4, not 3, although it did show some with the assault squad backpacks. Don't forget, Magnus may have been in the offing through plot weaves, Horus could have been given info to that account, plus there weren't as many sons as other legions. So arming them wouldn't be so much a logistical problem as some others like ultras for instance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315462-thousand-sons/#findComment-4211857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 So is MK IV armour the standard armour for SoH during the HH then? MkIV is the most widespread mk among the traitors at the dawn of the heresy as Horus had been using his influence as Warmaster to get all the good stuff funneled to his own and allied legions But Magnus was never really allied to Horus and actually plotted against him and all artwork seems to show them in MK III. I might hold off using this HH box set for TS in the hope that another with MK III comes out instead. Except that was back around Davin-ish. Since then, the majority of the KSons have been sitting stagnant and Magnus has been doing his Dissociative Schizofrued act with each individual fragment doing its own thing. And we know at least Lorgar has been actively trying to recruit Magnus so its entirely possible that in the two years(I think it was two, might have been one) between Prospero and Istvaan III, the Word Bearers and other Traitor Legions might have been taking in stragglers, resulting in them getting Mk IV. Besides, they were always shown with that special egyptian style helmets so Marks are really indeterminate and up to personal taste. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315462-thousand-sons/#findComment-4211956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarHughes Posted November 26, 2015 Author Share Posted November 26, 2015 OK, new question, should I get this upgrade pack for thousand sons: http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Chaos-Space-Marines-Thousand-Sons-Upgrade-Pack Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315462-thousand-sons/#findComment-4235948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 OK, new question, should I get this upgrade pack for thousand sons: http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Chaos-Space-Marines-Thousand-Sons-Upgrade-Pack I would avoid it. Those are the Rubrick marines and a shadow of what the TS once were. The big egyptian block heads are much more 40k than 30, with the 30k TS looking more ornate and smaller details. Plus they have chaos markings on the shoulders/ everywhere else. With some editing the Sorcerer could work perhaps, but he doesn't quite fit the 30k feel IMO. For reference heres an image of both: 30K http://orig03.deviantart.net/ee78/f/2014/196/b/7/aaron_mcintyre_thousand_sons_hrf_by_luches-d7qw01n.png 40K http://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/3/2055/6726888_orig.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315462-thousand-sons/#findComment-4236152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Where are those images from? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315462-thousand-sons/#findComment-4236163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Google images. One is fan art (30k) and so is the other probably. But they're pretty on point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315462-thousand-sons/#findComment-4236176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Polo Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Not to mention, I remember hearing about at one of the last FW Opens/HH events, that, when asked about what armor marks 1k Sons used, the reply was that their upgrade kits matched up with mk iv. Food for thought. Correct http://i.imgur.com/d40BmOO.jpg Patience will be rewarded, hopefully sooner rather than later. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315462-thousand-sons/#findComment-4236563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praefectus Invictus Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Where did that image come from? Was it from the last open day? I can't see those upgrades on the forge world page and I'm pretty sure they haven't been released yet. Do you have information we don't? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315462-thousand-sons/#findComment-4236576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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