TheOneTrueZon Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Hello everyone, this new paint has been making the rounds in certain circles of late. I would like to share the results of my initial findings with the community. Black 2.0 was released recently at the Culture Hustle site (http://bit.ly/2ob00R8), and as the site states: "The world’s mattest, flattest, black art material" Initial caveats: The site also has promotional photos that show objects being turned into a "Black Hole Silhouette" - that is all smoke and mirrors Photoshop tomfoolerly and web gamut GIFs that have no color range, so don't be swayed by anything on their site. However as someone who works in visual effects I can attest that the even tone this paint provides makes it exceptionally EASY to obtain that drop out black effect in a photo. OK, so here's the first set of results. It comes in a 150ml bottle, so there's ample paint to play with. Overall I think this paint could have a lot of good applications for a variety of things. First off our contenders: http://i.imgur.com/K462cFp.jpg http://i.imgur.com/24xywbS.jpg Under even lighting conditions Black 2.0 is indeed the flattest and mattest of the set, but does not have the deep black tone of the Vallejo Glossy Black. The difference doesn't really translate well via photo, however once we apply them to a more dimensional surface (click photo to enlarge).... http://i.imgur.com/pwN6439.jpg Black 2.0 has no specular highlights. Under direct sunlight there is an almost iridescent look to the pigments. It's very cool looking and hard to descibe, but it almost looked like digital "grain". Most likely this is due to the light scattering properties of the pigment. I did put a few more layers of paint on this test mini so the detail loss and chalky surface texture is due to over-application. However I can attest that after one coat the effect was clearly visible with minimal streaking. Next up is a 50/50 mix of Black 2.0 and Vallejo Glossy Black. Yin and Yang, as it were. http://i.imgur.com/68P4gpX.jpg The 50/50 mix begins to reflect the light slightly more. I might experiment with this mixture a bit more to get a darker tone while keeping the flatness. This is Vallejo Black Surface Primer and is what I've currently been using the basecoat my army with an airbrush. I used a brush to apply the paint on this test, but an airbrush test will soon follow as new parts arrive tomorrow! http://i.imgur.com/pdmmyUz.jpg Clearly this bridges well into the semi-gloss department with well defined but slightly diffused highlights. Much darker tone of black than Black 2.0 Then we have Vallejo Glossy Black. http://i.imgur.com/0D5t6nK.jpg This has the highest value of specular highlights out of the bunch, obviously. However when put into a lineup the difference is striking. http://i.imgur.com/m25cO0D.jpg So overall, flattest? Yes, by and far the flattest and mattest finish I've seen. Blackest? That is up to your interpretation of black, but in sheer tonal value the difference is clear as seen above. This paint does make for a great backdrop color. All these photos were taken on a backdrop painted with Black 2.0 - it photographs very even and since it doesn't reflect light in the slightest it gives a nice even tone. The overall value is a dark ash grey. Things I'm definitely going to use Black 2.0 for: - Muzzle heat discoloration - Exhaust stains - Terrain Upcoming airbrush tests will see how it looks on vehicles. Also doing a two tone application to some of the test minis to see how that jives. Also tried a couple experiments with crackle medium but it didn't come out so well, I'll post photos if I get better results after I play around with it some more. Check back next week for the airbrush tests! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333440-black-20/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 It must be the photos but, to me, that Black 2.0 barely even looks black. It comes across as a very dark grey. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333440-black-20/#findComment-4730313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTibbetts Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Yeah, thanks for this writeup! I doubt you meant it, but it basically convinced me not to try the stuff. I think it'll be even more gray through an airbrush since that will atomize differently. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333440-black-20/#findComment-4730535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneTrueZon Posted May 4, 2017 Author Share Posted May 4, 2017 Oh I totally agree with you, I'm glad I saved some of you some cash. I went middle of the road on the review, for the price and the amount of paint I got, it was worth it alone as a photo backdrop. I also have resin replicas of a Halo Rail Gun and Destiny Autorifle that will look really nice with this on some of the surfaces. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333440-black-20/#findComment-4730547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 It must be the photos but, to me, that Black 2.0 barely even looks black. It comes across as a very dark grey. The 50/50 mix is a winner. Nice surface and shading and would look great with some weathering on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333440-black-20/#findComment-4730825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 I bought some as well, mainly just for pauldron coloration on my Word Bearers. It is indeed a very matte black, but it's not... I don't know how to say it... a brilliant black? I'm not sure that makes sense much. It's definitely not a color I'd do something like Black Templar or Raven Guard in as a base color, but it works great as a spot color or whatnot. It applies well, though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333440-black-20/#findComment-4732409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTibbetts Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 See, I think it could work for Raven Guard but I'd have to see a tester. I like the idea that, even though it's gray, it's so matte that it sort of drinks up highlights. That's in keeping with the way I can imagine RG armor to look, as opposed to Black Templars or something. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333440-black-20/#findComment-4733441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan the Lurker Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 I've got a bottle on the way as well. Somewhat disappointed that it is coming out more Charcoal than Black. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333440-black-20/#findComment-4735508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Eye Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Not that I can see it reaching our hobby stations any time soon, but that reminds me of that weird nanocarbon black paint they developed recently that absorbs 99.9% of all light that hits it. If that ever becomes commercially available in hobby paint form... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333440-black-20/#findComment-4736844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claws and Effect Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Hmm. I might use that to base my Raven Guard and do some Nuln Oil Gloss to break up the mattness a little bit. On an amusing note, my phone kept INSISTING I was trying to spell mattress. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333440-black-20/#findComment-4736962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Shumway Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Not that I can see it reaching our hobby stations any time soon, but that reminds me of that weird nanocarbon black paint they developed recently that absorbs 99.9% of all light that hits it. If that ever becomes commercially available in hobby paint form... That paint is exactly the reason this company made this paint. The original paint's formula was copyrighted by some artist so this black 2.0 is what we have as a replacement. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333440-black-20/#findComment-4736979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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