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A club for members of the B&C to discuss the Blogs feature and how to improve it. Only members with blogs, either at the B&C or externally, may join the club. Contact the admins if you would like to join this club.
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Wellbro joined the club
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So I was able to create new Blogs (Adepta Sororitas, Grey Knights, Imperial Fists & Successors, and Astra Militarum) and move the posts I wanted in the new blogs. I left my original Blog with the subjects that either I did not want to move or that will be moved when I restart the projects they are assigned to.
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@Brother Tyler I would say only 2 things: 1. It looks like everything is OK 2. A big Thank you for the job done.
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Hi, @Brother Tyler: So let's see how it works and if it does not make you crouch and crash under the burden: First ste, my List of Blogs : - Bouargh´s miniatures´ closet clean-up - Pointy and Spiky - (“Aeldari”) - AM Not-Stygies - A Blog about building a new Army - (“Adeptus-mechanicus-and-mechanicum”) - Bad Mood Rising – (“Miscellaneous”) - How to pretend not starting an army – (“Astra-militarum-and-imperial-army”) All have been created. Second step: identification of existing categories from the original Blog to be moved to New blogs. Category from Bouargh´s miniatures´ closet clean-up Move existing category to Blog : Freeblade AM Not-Stygies - A Blog about building a new Army 10th Edition Pointy and Spiky GorkaMorka Bad Mood Rising New Year/New Army AM Not-Stygies - A Blog about building a new Army For some reason this category appears as being in duplicate. Both should be moved. Milestone Bad Mood Rising Edito Bad Mood Rising Bitz Box Management How to pretend not starting an army Epic 2nd Ed Bad Mood Rising Review Bad Mood Rising Not GSC How to pretend not starting an army House Rules AM Not-Stygies - A Blog about building a new Army Aeldarii Pointy and Spiky Drukhari Pointy and Spiky All and any category unlisted stay in the Bouargh´s miniatures´ closet clean-up, where it was born and raised initially. By the way this process made me notice that some Categories exists in duplicate or more. I ignore why... Third step: Reset/relocate Bouargh´s miniatures´ closet clean-up from “Miscellaneous” to “Modeling-sculpting-and-painting” I guess I have it all. I keep it like that, without adding extra complication such as moving some individual posts too. Thanx
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Okay, my search for some setting(s) has been fruitless. I've come up with a workaround. It involves a lot of work for me, but I'm willing to do that work for anyone. First, you need to create all of the new blogs into which you want your existing blogs/blog categories to be moved. If you don't want the original blog in the Miscellaneous category, don't create one of the new blogs (ideally the one that has the most entries in your original blog) - I'll change the category of the original blog (see below). To keep me honest (you'll find out why this is important below), you should take a screenshot of the listing of all of your blogs (and as much more as you want). This is for your protection. Then you'll need to post a reply in this discussion telling me: Which new blog each of your categories/entries [in your original blog] should be moved. The name of the category that you want each blog category/entry to be moved into. Which category you want your original blog moved into (assuming you don't want to keep it in the Miscellaneous category). This is where things get shady (hence my recommendation for screenshots above)... Once I have your PM, I will change ownership of all of your blogs to me. This will allow me to move everything around according to the instructions that you provide. After that, I'll delete the now empty categories in the original blog. Once I've completed all of that, I will change ownership of all of your blogs back to you and I will post a reply in this discussion letting you know that the work is complete. The reason I suggest replies in this discussion rather than PMs is so that there is public visibility (another element of keeping me honest). This won't be a difficult task, but it will be time-consuming - the more projects you plan to have, the longer it will take (and I don't mind that one bit). Now if you don't want to go through this hassle, that's completely up to you. However, the staff is in the process of revising the achievements and there will be a progression for the creation of new blogs. There is already a progression for the creation of new blog entries, so those won't be affected whether they all remain in a single blog or they are spread around multiple blogs. If you have a dozen or so projects collected in a single blog (i.e., your original blog), you'll only earn the achievement for that one blog. If you create blogs for separate projects, however, you'll earn multiple achievements. The choice is up to you. If you want to see the outcome of the process I've described above, take a look at @Ioldanach's blogs here. He was the guinea pig that was trying to help with the tutorials, then found out that only the admins can move blog entries around (so it's all his fault ).
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witapij4 joined the club
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D'oh! I couldn't move another member's blog category/entry into one of their new blogs. All I could do was move it into one of my own blogs (I didn't do that, of course, but that's what my options were limited to). I'm going to have to dig into this more. It's perplexing that I can move my stuff around but others can't be given similar permissions. My assumption is that I'm missing something (and must therefore submit myself to the pain glove once I figure it out).
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Okay, it turns out that members can't move blog categories/entries. I've confirmed by using a Frater Domus account, and I determined that there wasn't a setting that I could change to enable blog category/entry movement by members. All you can do in this effort is create the new blogs in the appropriate categories. Once you have created all of the new blogs that you want, you can contact me to let me know which categories/entries to move from your existing blog into the new blog(s) (and which blog to move each into).
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Yes, it is deliberate. I am still not fully satisfied by what I wrote. And I also tend to wrote in advance and use the scheduled publishing ("... So that my huge and immense fanbase is is regularly fed with the so excellent content I can propose!" -> Self convinction exercice . Autohypnoses would probably give far better results...). If you need someone to test the procedure for moving entries and categories, I can take part in the beta testing burden. I've planned to move stuff around at least into the 2 new Blogs I've created (Mechanicus and Asuryanii, the former being qtm an emplty shell), so why not take the opportunity? I have moreover very limited internet and computer use abilities so I can also play the role of the Dummy. If I can do it, anybody can. @Brother Tyler: Just share the tutorial and I will play test from Sunday eve.
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I think the easy answer at this point is for me to add links to the Aeldari and Harlequin blogs (in addition to the link to the Asuryani blogs). I'll look into the ability for blog authors to recategorize blogs/entries. I'll have to enlist someone's help with that (and I'm already working on that) since I have broader permissions as an Administrator and don't always see the limitations that other members work under. I noticed that one of your entries isn't published. Was that deliberate? Speaking of enlisting someone's help, I'm working on that so that I can get the tutorials done for everyone. I already created my additional blogs and moved things around, so the only way for me to create the tutorials would be for me to either create a bunch of new entries (I am far too busy for that right now) or get help from someone else. That person has just agreed to help, so I hope to have the tutorial up late this weekend or early next week.
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Just noticed something: While creating a new Blog, I associated it with the Category "Asuryanii", whcih in the structure covers Aeldarii, Drukharii and Herlequins should I remember properly. Yet by doing that, it looks like the Blog cannot be reached by the shortcut access set under each subforum. It cant be reached only by the subcategory table on the Blog Landing page clicking up to Assuryanni. Just as the BLogs from the Misc. category. ... My mistake. I was maybe (secretly) hoping the linkage would make it available in an indistinct way from each subforum associted to Asuryanii. Which was presomptuous. Yet after that it looks like one cannot update the connection himself while going through the "Manage Blog" menu in order to reassign the Blog to a subcategory associated to an hypertext link. I am not convinced the option to reaffect needs to be set in the "Managing options" and may be such mistakes should be corrected by request to the Admin, should one ask for a relocation. But is it even possible?
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Yes, you can move blog entries. I'll include that in the tutorial. I've been distracted with some real world stuff and my article about the Codex Astartes, but the tutorial is on the high priority list.
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Hi, Just started the process of spliting my Blog into new ones focussing on specific aspects/alliegence. I created one for latter moving all my AdMech stuff into the new structure. I noticed the changes on the "Category" management but so far I did not found how to move these from one Blog to another. I will resume once the tutorial will be available. Incidentally I also have a question: if the former blog was designed with some broad categories mixing stuff, is there a easy possibility to move not the whole category but only one entry for example? Not that it is critical in any way, but just to know. Thnx
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Gillyfish joined the club
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If you haven't seen the announcement, the expanded Blogs Categories have been implemented and there is no longer a limit on the number of blogs that members can create. Those of you with existing blogs are free to turn each of your categories (presumably each as a separate project) into a separate blog. You'll have to create each such new blog first, then you can move the existing categories into the new blogs. I'll post a tutorial later.
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I think it's a solid list and in your breakdown you answered a question before I could even ask it (my blog drifts from one topic to another depending on my current whims, I've been using tags to sort them).
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That's one that would need a description. It's about tactics, battle reports, and stuff like that. I could see members creating homegrown rules blogs therein (unless they want to focus them in faction-specific Categories).
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I like It, yet I am not sure I really understand what is underneath the GamePlay category. Does it refer to Bat Reps, leagues ... or other things? Or does it include also other stuff such as gaming aids, rooster sheet... and eventually the tokens mentionned as example?
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We are close to changing the limit on the number of blogs that members can create from 1 to unlimited. The one thing that we need to settle on before that happens, though, is the Categories. We currently have two Categories: Members and Advertisers. The Advertisers Category will be kept, but the Members Category will be replaced with a slew of other Categories. Two quick notes... When capitalized ("Category(ies)"), I am referring to the Categories at the Blogs feature level - the Categories into which all blogs are organized. When not capitalized ("category(ies)"), I am referring to the internal categories that members create for the internal organization of their blogs. This discussion is solely about the Categories that apply throughout the Blogs feature. As much as possible, members will have complete freedom in creating their own blog categories. An important aspect of the content architecture is tags. We will create a system of Categories that works under most circumstances, with tags complementing the Categories. Since members will be given as much freedom as possible in both the organization and content of their blogs, there may be times when the baseline Category structure doesn't quite work. For example, we have opted to not create Categories for different games. Instead, projects that are focused on specific games should include the appropriate tags. Here is the current list of Categories that we are considering: Miscellaneous Imperium Adepta Sororitas and Ecclesiarchy Adeptus Astartes/Legiones Astartes Black Templars & Descendants Blood Angels & Successors Dark Angels & Successors Deathwatch Grey Knights Imperial Fists & Successors Iron Hands & Successors Legio B&C Legion of the Damned Raven Guard & Successors Salamanders & Successors Space Wolves & Successors Ultramarines & Successors White Scars & Successors Talons of the Emperor Adeptus Mechanicus and Cult Mechanicus Collegia Titanica Astra Militarum & Solar Auxilia Imperial Knights Chaos Chaos Daemons Chaos Knights Heretic Astartes Alpha Legion Death Guard & Nurgle Emperor's Children & Slaanesh Iron Warriors Luna Wolves/Sons of Horus/Black Legion Night Lords Thousand Sons & Tzeentch Word Bearers World Eaters & Khorne Xenos Aeldari Asuryani Drukhari Harlequins Genestealer Cults Leagues of Votann Necrons Orks T'au Tyranids Modeling, Sculpting, and Painting Game Play Editorials and Opinions To illustrate the envisioned outcome with the tags, imagine that a member is working on a project to create an Ultramarines army. Regardless of game system, that blog would be placed in the Ultramarines category (under Imperium and Adeptus Astartes). If that army is for the 10th edition of the Warhammer 40,000 game, it might be given the tag WH40K 10e (or it might not - the Warhammer 40,000 game is assumed to be the default, so it might be omitted unless you want to specify a previous edition). If that army is for the Horus Heresy: Age of Darkness game, it should be given the appropriate tag (we haven't settled on that one yet, but it may be something along the lines of HHAoD 2e). It would be entirely possible for the member to simply create a massive blog intended to cover all of their Ultramarines projects, across different editions of different games, and possibly including all kinds of other things like battle reports, homegrown rules, etc. In this case, the member might use different categories within their blog, assigning appropriate tags to each category and/or the entries within. For example, the member might have both a Primaris army for the WH40K game, a firstborn army for the Horus Heresy setting/game, a fleet for Battlefleet Gothic, a kill team for the Kill Team game, homegrown rules for Captain Invictus, etc. The member might decide that each of these might be a separate category within their Ultramarines blog, assigning each the appropriate tag. There are going to be times when a member's concept for their blog doesn't fit neatly within the overall Category structure that we create, in which case the Miscellaneous Category is there. In this case, members should use (meta-/sub-)faction tags to help members to find the content in which they are interested. For example, At one time I created tokens for the 2018 version of the Kill Team game. These tokens spanned all of the various factions of the game. Tokens don't really fit into one of our Blog Categories, so I would have located that blog (had we had Blogs at that time) in the Miscellaneous Category and assigned the Kill Team 2018 tag to the blog, then I would have assigned tags for each entry in which I presented a faction (e.g., the entry with the Exorcists tokens would have had the Exorcists Chapter tag). All that said, if you think we need to make any changes to the proposed Categories, please post your suggestions here. Also note that the increase to unlimited blogs means that there will be a progression of achievement badges for creating blogs. The achievement for creating a blog has been changed to green (from gold). We are looking at the entire achievements system, though, so we won't implement the entire progression until we get the overall system redone. That is still a work in progress, though, so it won't happen for a bit. Once the revision is implemented, though, achievement badges will be retroactively awarded.
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Threadomancy is actually an issue that I have long thought that we need to re-think. That's a broader issue, however, so I'll leave it for another time/place (though I second the notion that a member updating their own blog and crossposting the link the discussion forums does not constitute any kind of negative threadomancy). As far as encouraging more input on older blogs, I think that is something we should definitely do. To be honest, if I had more time I would mosey throughout the site and engage with members on all kinds of content, especially the blogs. As with everyone else, though, my time is limited. I think that part of our overall effort here is to develop methods for encouraging blog use by both authors as well as readers (engagement). There are multiple layers to that effort, however, including incentivization (achievements/badges), visibility (crossposting is just one element), and simple strategic communications concerning blogs, what they offer, and how they are superior to the discussion forums for personal projects. @Xenith's suggestion to include links in the forums (in the PM) is something that I definitely think we'll be doing, but that, too, is just one part of the overall effort. I think that we'll be developing methodologies for featuring blog entries (that's a staff action) and for getting more visibility of blog entries elsewhere on the site.
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Main Blog page layout changed
Brother Tyler replied to Brother Tyler's topic in Adeptus Bloggus's Discussions
The Recent Blog Entries block has been removed from the sidebar on the main Clubs page. I haven't added anything else to the sidebar yet because the categories are going to be expanded, increasing the height of the first block. Once we get the categories finalized, we'll see what kind of room we have to play with and how we might fill that space (accepting the fact that we have to allow for heights of blocks to vary based on activity). -
Main Blog page layout changed
Brother Tyler replied to Brother Tyler's topic in Adeptus Bloggus's Discussions
Yes, we will be looking at the sidebar sections to clean things up. -
Main Blog page layout changed
Xenith replied to Brother Tyler's topic in Adeptus Bloggus's Discussions
I like the grid also. Is there a way to switch ot remove the sidebar on only the blog page? Currently there is the blog page, recent blog entries and recent blog comments sections that all kind of promote the same thing - like the below, where I just left a comment on my blog, and now my blog is at the top of both lists. Would there be an option for 'popular blogs', like those receiving the most comments, to be highlighted? -
Main Blog page layout changed
Wormwoods replied to Brother Tyler's topic in Adeptus Bloggus's Discussions
I like how the grid looks, though am a little concerned about what will happen the next time someone decides to spam updates. I already feel a little weird about having two of mine up there together. -
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ZeroWolf replied to Brother Tyler's topic in Adeptus Bloggus's Discussions
I do like the gridded layout, allows the header images to catch the eye more. Regarding catergory structures, I'd thought splitting it along the forum lines might make sense, that way, you're familiar with one, you're familiar with both. -
One of the issues that was brought up in the preliminary PM discussion about Blogs was that the main Blogs page was difficult to navigate. We are operating under a few limitations, some of which might change. Limitation #1 - The software settings only provide us with two options for Blogs page layout: a list of blogs or a gridded layout. Limitation #2 - Members are only allowed to create a single blog. With regard to Limitation #1, we were previously using the list option. I just changed it to the gridded layout to see if members prefer that. With regard to Limitation #2, the option to remove the limit on the number of blogs that members can create was proposed. With a limit of a single blog, there is no real justification for discrete categories since all of a member's projects will be contained within the same blog. So we have two categories: Members and Advertisers. If we change the limit on the number of blogs that a member can create, we would have to change it to unlimited. Each individual project would then be a separate blog and you could find all of a member's blogs by going to their profile page and clicking on the Blogs tab. We could then create discrete categories to aid in content architecture. However, we would have to develop a logical category structure; and proper use of tags (something we're going to tackle separately) would become essential in helping members with finding the types of blogs that they're looking for. At this point, I'm working on a category structure to support multiple blogs per member. In parallel, the staff are looking at our current achievement progressions and developing an update. We'll incorporate multiple blogs into that structure. Once all of that is ready, we'll change the number of blogs that a member can create from 1 to unlimited. In the meantime, I'm open to suggestions for category structure. Note that I suggest looking at the structures for our discussion forums (categories and forums/sub-forums), galleries, downloads, and articles. Also, I'd like your feedback on the new (gridded) layout of the main Blogs page.
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That's an interesting point. Threadomancy was much more of an issue when the forum received heavier traffic and necro-ing a dead post could be severely disruptive. Obviously the OP updating their hobby PLOG (for example) has often not been an issue as it adds content to 'their' thread and adding content to a Blog follows the same concept. However, replaying to a dead thread does not and might inadvertently suppress responses to Blogs (or it might just be human nature). Do we need to try and encourage more input on older Blogs to encourage more content from Blog authors?