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Follow up question, if anyone knows the answer, can a praevian and 3 cybernetica ride a dreadclaw

Thanks heaps for the c&c, really appreciate it. I originally had 4 sabres with neutron blasters in the 3000 point expansion but decided to run a walker/infantry build instead to try it out. There’s scope to play around with what’s actually in the 3000 point list but I’ll have to get some games in to see what I’m really lacking. I agree tho I don’t have any 2+ infantry, no terminators and no javelins which seem to be the go to outflank support. So updated the 2000 point list - dropped the mortifactor as the cortus loose fleet and stay together as a unit, which seems like an easier target for anti vehicle fire. However it allows me to bring a 3rd cortus and give them all grav which I acknowledge is short range however I’m banking on night fighting and good placement to fleet up turn one. ++ Crusade (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [2,000pts] ++ + HQ + Praetor, Legion [210pts]: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Digital Lasers, Iron Halo, Jump Pack, Mastercraft a Single Weapon, Melta Bombs, Paragon Blade, Trophies of Judgement, Warlord + Elites + Contemptor-Cortus Class Dreadnought Talon [495pts] . Cortus Dreadnought . . Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon: Graviton Gun . . Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon: Graviton Gun . Cortus Dreadnought . . Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon: Graviton Gun . . Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon: Graviton Gun . Cortus Dreadnought . . Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon: Graviton Gun . . Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon: Graviton Gun Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought [185pts]: Twin-linked Lascannon x 2 + Troops + Night Raptor Squad , Compulsory [270pts]: 9x Night Raptor, 3x Nostraman Chainglaive, 2x Power Axe . Huntmaster: Artificer Armour, Headsman's Axe, Trophies of Judgement Terror Squad (Compulsory) [260pts]: 9x Executioner, 10x Volkite Charger . Headsman: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Power Fist Terror Squad (Compulsory) [260pts]: 9x Executioner, 10x Volkite Charger . Headsman: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Power Fist + Heavy Support + Leviathan Siege Dreadnought Talon [320pts] . Leviathan Siege Dreadnought: Cyclonic Melta Lance, Phosphex Discharger, Twin-linked Volkite Caliver, Twin-linked Volkite Caliver . . Leviathan Siege Drill Legion and Allegiance: VIII: Night Lords, Traitor Rite of War: Terror Assault At 3000 the current planned expansion is ++ Crusade (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [3,000pts] ++ + HQ + Praetor, Legion [210pts]: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Digital Lasers, Iron Halo, Jump Pack, Mastercraft a Single Weapon, Melta Bombs, Paragon Blade, Trophies of Judgement, Warlord Praevian [740pts]: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Combi-weapon, Headsman's Axe, On Foot, Refractor Field . Consul . . Praevian . . . Castellax Class Battle-Automata Maniple: Enhanced Targeting Arrays, Support Unit . . . . Castellax class Battle-automata: 2x Bolter, Darkfire Cannon, Two Power Blades . . . . Castellax class Battle-automata: 2x Bolter, Darkfire Cannon, Two Power Blades . . . . Castellax class Battle-automata: 2x Bolter, Darkfire Cannon, Two Power Blades . . . . Castellax class Battle-automata: 2x Bolter, Darkfire Cannon, Two Power Blades . . . . Legion Inductees: Scout + Elites + Contemptor-Cortus Class Dreadnought Talon [495pts] . Cortus Dreadnought . . Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon: Graviton Gun . . Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon: Graviton Gun . Cortus Dreadnought . . Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon: Graviton Gun . . Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon: Graviton Gun . Cortus Dreadnought . . Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon: Graviton Gun . . Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon: Graviton Gun Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought [185pts]: Twin-linked Lascannon x 2 + Troops + Night Raptor Squad , Compulsory [270pts]: 9x Night Raptor, 3x Nostraman Chainglaive, 2x Power Axe . Huntmaster: Artificer Armour, Headsman's Axe, Trophies of Judgement Terror Squad (Compulsory) [260pts]: 9x Executioner, 10x Volkite Charger . Headsman: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Power Fist Terror Squad (Compulsory) [260pts]: 9x Executioner, 10x Volkite Charger . Headsman: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Power Fist Terror Squad (Compulsory) [260pts]: 9x Executioner, 10x Volkite Charger . Headsman: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Power Fist + Heavy Support + Leviathan Siege Dreadnought Talon [320pts] . Leviathan Siege Dreadnought: Cyclonic Melta Lance, Phosphex Discharger, Twin-linked Volkite Caliver, Twin-linked Volkite Caliver . . Leviathan Siege Drill + Allegiance + Legion and Allegiance: VIII: Night Lords, Traitor Rite of War: Terror Assault May seem counter intuitive, but I actually want the castellax to advance up and go for praetor/terminator units as I think power blades and dark lances should work well. Unless there’s a dark angels greatsword near by. Could drop 2 castellax for 3 apothecary’s in artificer armour for the terror squads, bump the raptors to 15 and then maybe squish a primus medicae in.

Thanks for the advice, I’m almost tempted at the lower points level to run 3 cortus, 2 multi meltas/fist and a dual fist with barebones mortifactor or just a talon of 3 with double fists and grav. I’ve already purchased 3 nightlords contemptor chassis so I’m pretty much locked in. I’ll add a praevian with 4 castellax with dark fire lances and another raptor squad for 3000 points

I was tossing up arming one with rotor cannons for the rule of cool as I think they could still do some damage against standard infantry, noting terror squads have preferred enemy infantry. Maybe swap a fist for a chain glance as well. I was tossing up arming a dread with multi melta and chain fist and the other dual fists with plasma blasters but would have to re arrange the points. Plan for heavy armour is cross some fingers and hope that between the 4 dreads they can either glance it to death with lascannon/melta lance shots or advance up and punch it to death.

Long time lurker and list hammerer but I’ve finally purchased most of the following; ++ Crusade (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [2,000pts] ++ + HQ + Mortificator [495pts]: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, On Foot, Refractor Field . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Chainswords/Combat Blades . Consul . . Mortificator . . . Contemptor Dreadnoughts . . . . Contemptor Dreadnought, Legion: Twin-linked Autocannon . . . . . Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon: Plasma Blaster . . . . Contemptor Dreadnought, Legion: Twin-linked Autocannon . . . . . Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon: Plasma Blaster Praetor, Legion [210pts]: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Digital Lasers, Iron Halo, Jump Pack, Mastercraft a Single Weapon, Melta Bombs, Paragon Blade, Trophies of Judgement, Warlord + Elites + Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought [185pts]: Twin-linked Lascannon x 2 + Troops + Night Raptor Squad , Compulsory [270pts]: 9x Night Raptor, 3x Nostraman Chainglaive, 2x Power Axe . Huntmaster: Artificer Armour, Headsman's Axe, Trophies of Judgement Terror Squad (Compulsory) [260pts]: 9x Executioner, 10x Volkite Charger . Headsman: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Power Fist Terror Squad (Compulsory) [260pts]: 9x Executioner, 10x Volkite Charger . Headsman: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Power Fist + Heavy Support + Leviathan Siege Dreadnought Talon [320pts] . Leviathan Siege Dreadnought: Cyclonic Melta Lance, Phosphex Discharger, Twin-linked Volkite Caliver, Twin-linked Volkite Caliver . . Leviathan Siege Drill + Allegiance + Legion and Allegiance: VIII: Night Lords, Traitor Rite of War: Terror Assault Idea being the mortifactor with dread buddies support the terror squads, praetor and raptors do praetor and raptor things with the Mortis hanging back and the leviathan puts pressure where it’s needed Any c&c are more than welcome

I think I’ll definitely do it, just have to finished the other projects I currently have going first. Good point metal it’s definitely an option

I want to run a thematic boarding/orbital speartip style list using the 1st, 5th, 8th, 9th or 16th. The list would represent the Primarch or first captain type leader surrounded with the elite of the respective legion. (Farith redloss with inner circle knights and dread wing interemptors for example) I want it for thematic reasons more than game play as I think finding someone who’d want to play at this points level would be hard in my local. Let alone the cheese of it.

Ah god damn it, was just a fun idea based off the uff that a bunch of gravewaedens captured a heap of iron hands levithans

Okay so this may seem spammy, but it is also fluffy. So the idea is both mastodons take their delicious cargo to where it’s needed and the breached squad in the land raider uses them as cover and grabs an objective. Typhus 9 grave wardens 3x10 grave wardens 10 breathers Volkite breaching charge Melta Bomb arty armour land raider proteus/ Lascannons 2x mastodons Should come in at 3500 using the onslaught FOC is it too much?

Hey! Cheers, Thanks for the input, all things I have been worried about! I feel I don't really need the grave wardens and the multi melts mortis, plus 3 leviathans is abit much so I've adjusted the list. Praetor, Legion Compulsory HQ, Legiones Astartes, Wolf Lord/Claw Leader Artificer Armour, Digital Lasers, Iron Halo, Master of the Legion, On Foot, Paragon Blade, Rad Grenades Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought Vehicle, Walker Havoc Launcher, Searchlight and Smoke Launchers, Twin-linked Lascannon x 2 Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought Vehicle, Walker Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon x 2, Searchlight and Smoke Launchers Rapier Weapons Battery, Legion Laser Destroyer Array 2x Space Marine Crew 2x Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak Grenades Rapier Weapons Battery, Legion Laser Destroyer Array 2x Space Marine Crew 2x Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak Grenades Rapier Weapons Battery, Legion Rapier Weapons Battery, Legion Laser Destroyer Array 2x Space Marine Crew 2x Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak Grenades Rapier Weapons Battery, Legion Laser Destroyer Array 2x Space Marine Crew 2x Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak Grenades Troops Heavy Support Squad, Legion Legiones Astartes Autocannon, Legiones Astartes, 9x Space Marines, Legion, Support Squad Sergeant, Legion Augury Scanner Heavy Support Squad, Legion Lascannon Legiones Astartes Lascannon, Legiones Astartes, 9x Space Marines, Legion, Support Squad Sergeant, Legion Artificer Armour, Augury Scanner Heavy Support Squad, Legion Missile Launcher Legiones Astartes Legiones Astartes, Missile Launcher, 9x Space Marines, Legion, Support Squad Sergeant, Legion Augury Scanner Tactical Squad, Legion Legiones Astartes, Compulsory Troops, Legiones Astartes Legiones Astartes, 14x Tactical Space Marines, Legion Additional Wargear Bolters Standard Wargear Bolt Pistols, Frag and Krak Grenades, Power Armour Tactical Sergeant, Legion Artificer Armour, Bolter, Melta Bombs, Rad Grenades Tactical Squad, Legion Legiones Astartes, Compulsory Troops, Legiones Astartes Legiones Astartes, 14x Tactical Space Marines, Legion Additional Wargear Bolters Standard Wargear Bolt Pistols, Frag and Krak Grenades, Power Armour Tactical Sergeant, Legion Artificer Armour, Bolter, Melta Bombs, Rad Grenades Heavy Support Artillery Tank Squadron, Legion Vehicle, Tank Medusa, Legion Hull-mounted Heavy Bolter, Medusa Siege Gun, Searchlight and Smoke Launchers Medusa, Legion Hull-mounted Heavy Bolter, Medusa Siege Gun, Searchlight and Smoke Launchers Medusa, Legion Hull-mounted Heavy Bolter, Medusa Siege Gun, Searchlight and Smoke Launchers Deredeo Pattern Dreadnought Vehicle, Walker Aiolos Missile Launcher, Helical Targeting Array, Searchlight and Smoke Launchers, Twin-linked Anvilius Pattern Autocannon Battery, Twin-linked Heavy Bolter Leviathan Siege Dreadnought Talon Walker, Vehicle, Walker, Vehicle Leviathan Siege Dreadnought Chem-munitions, Heavy Flamer, Heavy Flamer, Leviathan Storm Cannon, Leviathan Storm Cannon, Phosphex Discharger Leviathan Siege Dreadnought Cyclonic Melta Lance, Heavy Flamer, Heavy Flamer, Phosphex Discharger Leviathan Siege Claw In-built Meltagun Swapped out a leviathan a contempter mortis and grad wardens for 3 medusas and 4 laser destroyer rapiers to help with antitank and abit infantry respectively, is it worth while?

Want to experiment with a list that I think is fluffy, traitor survivors of istaan betrayal, lots of dreads with heavy support squads backing them up and some tactical blob I haven't played a game of 30k but I've tossed around some list ideas. Praetor, Legion Compulsory HQ, Legiones Astartes, Wolf Lord/Claw Leader Chainfist, Combi-Weapon, Master of the Legion, On Foot, Rad Grenades Cataphractii Terminator Armour Terminator Armour Elites Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought Vehicle, Walker Multi-melta x 2, Searchlight and Smoke Launchers Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought Vehicle, Walker Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon x 2, Searchlight and Smoke Launchers Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought Vehicle, Walker Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon x 2, Searchlight and Smoke Launchers Troops Heavy Support Squad, Legion Legiones Astartes Autocannon, Legiones Astartes, 9x Space Marines, Legion, Support Squad Sergeant, Legion Artificer Armour, Augury Scanner Heavy Support Squad, Legion Legiones Astartes Autocannon, Legiones Astartes, 9x Space Marines, Legion, Support Squad Sergeant, Legion Artificer Armour, Augury Scanner Heavy Support Squad, Legion Lascannon Legiones Astartes Lascannon, Legiones Astartes, 9x Space Marines, Legion, Support Squad Sergeant, Legion Artificer Armour, Augury Scanner Tactical Squad, Legion Legiones Astartes, Compulsory Troops, Legiones Astartes Legiones Astartes, 14x Tactical Space Marines, Legion Additional Wargear Bolters Standard Wargear Bolt Pistols, Frag and Krak Grenades, Power Armour Tactical Sergeant, Legion Artificer Armour, Bolter, Melta Bombs, Rad Grenades Tactical Squad, Legion Legiones Astartes, Compulsory Troops, Legiones Astartes Legiones Astartes, 14x Tactical Space Marines, Legion Additional Wargear Bolters Standard Wargear Bolt Pistols, Frag and Krak Grenades, Power Armour Tactical Sergeant, Legion Artificer Armour, Bolter, Melta Bombs, Rad Grenades Heavy Support Deredeo Pattern Dreadnought Vehicle, Walker Aiolos Missile Launcher, Helical Targeting Array, Searchlight and Smoke Launchers, Twin-linked Anvilius Pattern Autocannon Battery, Twin-linked Heavy Bolter Grave Warden Terminator Squad Legiones Astartes Chem-master, 4x Grave Warden Terminator, Legiones Astartes Leviathan Siege Dreadnought Talon Walker, Vehicle, Walker, Vehicle Leviathan Siege Dreadnought Leviathan Storm Cannon, Leviathan Storm Cannon, Phosphex Discharger, Twin-linked Volkite Caliver, Twin-linked Volkite Caliver Leviathan Siege Dreadnought Cyclonic Melta Lance, Phosphex Discharger, Twin-linked Volkite Caliver, Twin-linked Volkite Caliver Leviathan Siege Claw In-built Meltagun Leviathan Siege Dreadnought Cyclonic Melta Lance, Phosphex Discharger, Twin-linked Volkite Caliver, Twin-linked Volkite Caliver Leviathan Siege Claw In-built Meltagun Should be 3500 on the nose, very dread heavy list Levi's tacticals and grace wardens advance up while heavy support squads deredo and mortis lay down firepower, and the Mortis can advance up and provide close support