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hello peoples..... alas i have thought up an interesting list to combat a basic space marine list consisting of minimum squads of 3+ dudes not only list but lists because of magnetized models *mm here we go list the first: 748 pts - swarmlord - 270 - genestealers (8) w Extended Carapaces - 136 - termagants (12) w fleshborers*mm - 60 - rippers (3) - 36 - the red terror - 55 - raveners (3) - 66 - mawloc - 125 list the second: 747 pts - swarmlord - 270 - termagants (12) w fleshborers*mm - 60 - warriors (3) w deathspitter x2 & venom cannon - 99 - rippers (3) - 36 - rippers (3) - 36 - the red terror - 55 - raveners (3) - 66 - mawloc - 125 list the third: 750 pts - broodlord*mm - 125 - genestealers (8) w Extended Carapaces - 136 - termagants (12) w devourers*mm - 108 - warriors (3) w deathspitter x2 & venom cannon - 99 - rippers (3) - 36 - the red terror - 55 - raveners (3) - 66 - mawloc - 125 list the fourth: 750 pts - tyranid prime w (boneswords, deathspitter*mm) & toxin sacs*mm - 89 - genestealers (8) w Extended Carapaces - 136 - termagants (12) w devourers*mm - 108 - warriors (3) w deathspitter x2 & venom cannon - 99 - rippers (3) - 36 - rippers (3) - 36 - the red terror - 55 - raveners (3) - 66 - mawloc - 125 list the fifth: 749 pts - tyranid prime w (boneswords, deathspitter*mm) & toxin sacs*mm - 89 - genestealers (8) w Extended Carapaces - 136 - termagants (12) w devourers*mm - 108 - warriors (3) w deathspitter x2, venom cannon & bio enhancements (toxin sacs & adrenal glands*mm) - 117 - rippers (3) - 36 - rippers (3) - 36 - rippers (3) - 36 - raveners (3) - 66 - mawloc - 125 list the sixth: 746 pts - tyranid prime w (boneswords, deathspitter*mm) - 84 - genestealers (8)*mm - 120 - termagants (12) w devourers*mm - 108 - warriors (3) w deathspitter x2, venom cannon - 99 - rippers (3) - 36 - rippers (3) - 36 - rippers (3) - 36 - rippers (3) - 36 - raveners (3) - 66 - mawloc - 125 yes event the toxin sacs and adrenal glands will be magnetized because i am huge on WYSIWYG; 1/16 rare earth magnets are cool even the 3 rippers per base will be magnetized so that when they die they can be removed from the game now my enemy the space marines can either deploy using a drop pod or not three ways in fact because a - all deploy together as an impossible amount of wounds no matter how you look at it b - deploy as a gun line in two different fire base groups separated by a good bit c - drop pod unit or units + main fire base however they deploy, space marines are very dangerous when tyranids choose to assault them while they are at full strength due to rapid fire rules.... perhaps showing up turn one eliminates the AP-1 tactical doctrine stuff.... anyways using magnets and a few units i can deploy 6 different types of tyranid patrols they are the weaker army in fact so they either need a plus whatever in army point value increase or house rule(s) to make them more competitive.... perhaps.... these lists are based on purchasing the following sets: - hive tyrant box set, where the leftover bits from the swarmlord set can be used with the broodlord to make a tyranid prime - tyranid starter set, where the broodlord is magnetized to become the tyranid prime - termagant set, where they are all magnetized with either 12 fleshborers or 12 devourers - the red terror - warrior box set - ravener box set maybe more rippers along the way.... anyways cheers and my only recommendation to you for list building is this dual purpose cheers