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Hello everyone, Getting back into the game, looking to start DA for a more in-your-face style of play to go with my Astra Militarum's backfield firepower. I've come up with the following, but I'm torn on how to spend the remaining 70 pts. The general tactic is speed on the Ravenwing to strike isolated elements of the enemy force pivoting around an anchor of Deathwing holding the center, tarpitting anything big the opponent I'm also trying to keep it reasonably fluffy, with the idea that this is a fallen-hunting force. Ravenwing Outrider Detachment HQ: Capitan on Bike - TH/SS - Reliquary of the Repentant - Warlord: Fury of the Lion - 130 Talonmaster - 160 Elites: Ravenwing Black Knights x5, Corvus Hammer x5 - 225 Fast Attack Bike Squad, 2x chainsword, 2x plasma gun, combi-plasma - 180 Bike Squad, 2x chainsword, 2x plasma gun, combi-plasma - 180 Bike Squad, 2x chainsword, 2x plasma gun, combi-plasma - 180 Land speeder Vengeance - 120 Deathwing Vanguard detachment HQ: Interigator-Chaplain - Jump Pack, catechism of fire - 110 Librarian in terminator armor - 105 Elites: 5x deathwing knights, watcher in the dark - 240 5x SB deathwing terminators - 185 Ravenwing apothicary - chief apothicary, hero of the chapter (selfless healer) - 115

Based on the reveals from Warhammer-Community, I'm messing with Dark Angels lists. First out of the gate is a Ravenwing Outrider Detachment. I've loved me some Ravenwing since the 4th ed Dex let us take Bike Squads as Troops if we fielded Sammael. This is what I've got so far. Thoughts that went into the list: Sammael and the Talonmasters are in it for the obvious reasons. I wanted to take advantage of Bike Squads being Obsec, hence 3 of them. I gave one 2 flamers and a storm bolter for crowd clearing, one with a trio of meltas for the obvious reasons, and one is currently cheap and cheerful, but may well wind up with some upgrades as I have about 40 points to mess with. Got the great big squad of Black Knights because I love me some Black Knights, and there's not a lot in the game they can't utterly eradicate. The squad of MM Attack Bikes are in there because multimeltas are the new hotness. Got the lone Attack Bike to send out to objectives and/or to score secondaries (Linebreaker comes to mind). The Typhoons can sit on a home objective, and I can hit them with the defensive strat if an opponent directs fire onto them. It doesn't have everything I want. I can't include a Librarian without breaking the Ravenwing Outrider bonus, and I'd wanted to have a Dark Shroud in it. I still do, but I'd have to drop something to get it. It also doesn't really have a good centerpiece model. A Nephilim or a Dark Talon could be that model, but I'm not over enthused with either of the planes at the moment. +++ Ravenwing Outrider 2k (Warhammer 40,000 9th Edition) [95 PL, 8CP, 1,990pts] +++ ++ Outrider Detachment -3CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Dark Angels) [95 PL, 8CP, 1,990pts] ++ + Configuration [9CP] + **Chapter Selection** Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) [12CP] Detachment Command Cost [-3CP] + HQ [24 PL, 470pts] + Lieutenant(s) [16 PL, 320pts] . . Ravenwing Talonmaster [8 PL, 160pts]: Power sword, Twin assault cannon, Twin heavy bolter . . Ravenwing Talonmaster [8 PL, 160pts]: Power sword, Twin assault cannon, Twin heavy bolter Sammael [8 PL, 150pts]: Bolt pistol, Brilliant Strategist, Frag & Krak grenades, Master-crafted Plasma Cannon, Raven Sword, Twin storm bolter, Warlord + Elites [24 PL, -1CP, 565pts] + Ravenwing Apothecary [6 PL, -1CP, 115pts]: Bolt pistol, Chapter Command: Chief Apothecary [1 PL, 15pts], Frag & Krak grenades, Selfless Healer, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter [-1CP] . . Black Knight Bike: Plasma Talon Ravenwing Black Knights [18 PL, 450pts] . . Ravenwing Black Knight [45pts]: Bolt pistol, Corvus Hammer [5pts], Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma Talon . . Ravenwing Black Knight [45pts]: Bolt pistol, Corvus Hammer [5pts], Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma Talon . . Ravenwing Black Knight [45pts]: Bolt pistol, Corvus Hammer [5pts], Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma Talon . . Ravenwing Black Knight [45pts]: Bolt pistol, Corvus Hammer [5pts], Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma Talon . . Ravenwing Black Knight [45pts]: Bolt pistol, Corvus Hammer [5pts], Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma Talon . . Ravenwing Black Knight [45pts]: Bolt pistol, Corvus Hammer [5pts], Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma Talon . . Ravenwing Black Knight [45pts]: Bolt pistol, Corvus Hammer [5pts], Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma Talon . . Ravenwing Black Knight [45pts]: Bolt pistol, Corvus Hammer [5pts], Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma Talon . . Ravenwing Black Knight [45pts]: Bolt pistol, Corvus Hammer [5pts], Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma Talon . . Ravenwing Huntmaster [45pts]: Bolt pistol, Corvus Hammer [5pts], Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma Talon + Fast Attack [47 PL, 925pts] + Attack Bike Squad [2 PL, 45pts] . . Attack Bike [2 PL, 45pts]: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, Heavy bolter, Twin boltgun Attack Bike Squad [6 PL, 165pts] . . Attack Bike [2 PL, 55pts]: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, Multi-melta [10pts], Twin boltgun . . Attack Bike [2 PL, 55pts]: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, Multi-melta [10pts], Twin boltgun . . Attack Bike [2 PL, 55pts]: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, Multi-melta [10pts], Twin boltgun Bike Squad [9 PL, 165pts] . . Biker Sergeant [35pts]: Frag & Krak grenades, Storm bolter [5pts], Twin boltgun . . 2x Space Marine Biker w/Chainsword [60pts]: 2x Astartes Chainsword, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Twin boltgun . . Space Marine Biker w/Special Weapon [35pts]: Flamer [5pts], Frag & Krak grenades, Twin boltgun . . Space Marine Biker w/Special Weapon [35pts]: Flamer [5pts], Frag & Krak grenades, Twin boltgun Bike Squad [9 PL, 150pts] . . Biker Sergeant [30pts]: Astartes Chainsword, Frag & Krak grenades, Twin boltgun . . 4x Space Marine Biker w/Chainsword [120pts]: 5x Astartes Chainsword, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Twin boltgun Bike Squad [9 PL, 180pts] . . Biker Sergeant [40pts]: Combi-melta [10pts], Frag & Krak grenades, Twin boltgun . . 2x Space Marine Biker w/Chainsword [60pts]: 2x Astartes Chainsword, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Twin boltgun . . Space Marine Biker w/Special Weapon [40pts]: Frag & Krak grenades, Meltagun [10pts], Twin boltgun . . Space Marine Biker w/Special Weapon [40pts]: Frag & Krak grenades, Meltagun [10pts], Twin boltgun Land Speeder Typhoons [12 PL, 220pts] . . Land Speeder Typhoon [6 PL, 110pts]: Heavy bolter, Typhoon missile launcher . . Land Speeder Typhoon [6 PL, 110pts]: Heavy bolter, Typhoon missile launcher Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net)

Biker army is super cool, but wondering just how competitve it will be. I am also unsure on how some of the rules work So outrider detachment. I am not sure how successor work with this. If possibe i will take the Rapid Assault & Master Artisan (to stop killing myself with plasma lol) HQ Captain on Bike - Storm Shield - Thunder Hammer - WLT: Champion of Humanity - Relic: Armour Indomitus Talon Master Talon Master Elites 9 Black Knights - 9 Corvius Hammers Ravenwing Appothecary - Master Appothecary - WLT: Selfless Healer Ravenwing Ancient - WLT: Rites of War - Repentant Fast Attack 3 x 5 Bike Squads each with - 3 Bikers - 2 Melta Guns - Attack Bike - Multi-Melta - Sgt - Melta Gun 3 Landspeeder Venegence Basically I start with 9 CP and plan to spam the 4++ strat, weapons of the dark age & targeting guidance (atleast for the 1st couple of turns) The captain is there to give re-roll 1's to the black knights to stop them killing themselves with overcharged plasma, the chaplain will give +1 to wound in both shooting and combat, but if needed will use the strat to give +1 to hit to the black knights. The outriders are usefull to clear hordes, and the bike squads are useful for melta. The landspeeders will sit on backfield objectives, sending the one up the field for targeting guidance. They also seem super good, and help with long range anti-tank. Updated So made this list more legal lol Dropped the 2 outrider units and the chaplain for 2 talon masters and a ancient I did like the outriders as a cheap OS throwaway unit but never mind This starts with 9CP but i could use paragon of the chapter for an extra WLT for the captain, probably imperium sword for 7 S9 D3 attacks against a character with +1 to hit/wound