Dark_Vengeant Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Hello all! I have made it a project to build a cityfight table, and over the last few months I have been plugging away at it - in my spare time. So I thought I would share with you guys my baseing techniques. So I have come up with a relatively easy and good looking way to put together urban scenery. Maybe some of these pictures I'm posting will help other players with ideas on how to make city terrain. This tutorial is far from complete but lets get it started anyways. So here is what I started with: carpentry glue white glue utility knife (heavy) scissors ruler felt tip marker various paint brushes GW black primer GW city ruins boxed set (3 x ruins set) IKEA gravel (aka fish bowl gravel - or could be used for vases) in two sizes small and large sand (or GW basing sand works) Pink foam insulation hard board 3mm (actually used for backboards of shelves, and some cheap walls) extra sprues foamcore 1cm wide folk art paints (acryllic black, grey, white etc - these are relatively cheap and much more cost effective to use on scenery than GW paints) I'm sure i have left something out but I will add anything I remember.... Stage 1: Construction Build your cityfight kits! (this step could be replaced by building custom scenery but for the purposes of this tutorial I just want to keep to assuming that you have ruins premade.) Don't forget to add things to the ruins such as pipes, I-beams, and various creative touches to add to the figure. This can be done using small copper piping, thick wire, extra sprues, and even old ball point pen tubes. You can elevate the model using pink styrofoam insulation as in one of the pictures below, or you can keep it at ground level. Think ahead about what you would like your piece to look like when complete. Cut an appropriately sized piece of hardboard to fix your ruins to. Note that I have left room for a sidewalk on all sides. Use the carpenter's glue to fix your scenery to the base. This works best I find. http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0552.jpg http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0572.jpg http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0573.jpg Then take a piece of card (I used an old MCain's Pizza box) and using a ruler mark down 1" squares, in a checkerboard pattern. Do about 1'x1'. Once complete use your utility knife along with the ruler to cut along the lines carefully creating a ton of little card squares. These are your sidewalk tiles. Glue on the side walk tiles as you prefer them to be placed. Cut some of them up and scatter their shards in teh vicinity to represent crushed, broken tiles. Remember this is a warzone, tiles will not be pristine. Lastly glue any other pieces such as lamps, ladders. Stage 2: Basing. Remember this is a warzone. If you are going to make craters, there is a splash of debris that will fall in the general area. If a buildling has fallen their will be debris, and chunks of wall. One thing to keep in mind is that if you are making terrain you should leave room for figures so you can play a functional game of 40k. You may have to substitute realism for space. With that said I look at the ruin, and the base, and think if this building has fallen, where would debris land? And place it accordingly. In areas where there might be a floor or wall fallen over I might put a chunk or two of foam core or additional floor tiles from the GW kit. Add rubble to these chunks and voila you have a pile of debris! Foam core is cool because you can manipulate its shape.. In the pictures above you can see the white chunks of foamcore. You can cut it to look like a chunk of plascrete that has fallen through the ceiling, and cracked in half. You can make big cracks running through it using an xacto knife or pen. So..... I place my large bits. Chunks of foam core, chunks of pink foam, chunks of cut-up sprue all fixed to the base with carpenters glue. If you are going to crater this sucker, now is the time. If you see my one piece that is unpainted it has a big old crater in it. Hard to see at this point but its dug down with a knife. http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0575.jpghttp://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0576.jpg Next put down a thin layer of glue wherever you plan on putting debris. If you plan on putting down piles of debris either use more glue, or build it up using pink foam insulation chunks. Now I place a small amount of the large gravel to represent larger chunks of debris, and I use smaller gravel a little more generously followed by sand to fill all the other areas in. You might have to use the carpentry glue for the large gravel, however the smaller stuff will hold with plain old white glue. As a last touch I add plastic bits around, such as lasguns, imperial bits, wartime debris of all sorts, human bodies, skeletons, or anything you can think of to add realism. My favourite is adding beams of metal (sprues) to the debris piles to look like iron beams/columns have come down in the ruin. Don't forget to put some rubble on the 2nd or 3rd floors as well! They are not going to be sparkling clean after half the building got shelled! Now I take the model outside and prime it black. The good thing about priming it once its on a base, is that the primer doesn't go to waste. It gets fixed to the base a wee bit and it helps the application of the grey paint. PLEASE NOTE! If you are priming a terrain piece with styrofoam on it (foamcore, or insulation) - spraypaint will melt the foam so you need to apply a layer of glue to the foam and let it dry before attempting to spray it. (ie. the pink foam above can be seen to have a layer of glue coating it.) http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0577.jpg http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0578.jpg http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0580.jpg Stage 3: Painting Now once your model is primed you can begin to make that rubble look like actual rubble instead of the bottom of a fish tank. Mix up some grey paint - what kind you use and how you get it doesn't matter just find what is right for you. I like a darker grey because it is easier to dry brush on lighter colours. Paint it up. Do not water down the paint too much or it will soak into the hardboard base and warp it and you will be left with an unstable platform of a city ruin. http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0671.jpg http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0673.jpg http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0672.jpg http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0668-1.jpg http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0668.jpg Don't worry about getting paint on the ruin itself. You have to worry about good coverage on the gravel or you will have bits sticking through. I rushed this batch but I will be going over it with another light coat to ensure good coverage. When I go back after the grey is dry I will patch up all the areas on the plastic ruin itself with chaos black, before painting the ruin. Next I dry brush the ruin with a large brush if you can find a brush that is more than an inch thick you're going to have an easy time drybrushng this, if not you will be at it for a while. Dry brush once with codex grey, followed by a light drybrushing of space wolves grey (or equivalent). If you want do a VERY light drybrush of white on all the rubble. Next paint the ruin. Paint the model any way you like, keeping in mind battle damage, smoke damage, fire, shell impacts, etc. Painting is at your discretion depending on how much time you want to put into it. I just drybrushed this manufactorum and it turned out nicely. http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0540.jpg Some other scenery samples: http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0536.jpg http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0555.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/110333-terrain-urban-terrain-tutorial/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Vengeant Posted May 24, 2007 Author Share Posted May 24, 2007 And now for the completed pictures! Some with flash and others without so you can see shadow effect on the scenery. Rubble when combined with shadow looks amazing in my opinion. I try not to "over-light" my table. http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0694.jpg http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0695.jpg http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0693.jpg http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0692.jpg http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0690.jpg http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0686.jpg http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0691.jpg http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0681.jpg http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0685.jpg http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0682.jpg http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0676.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/110333-terrain-urban-terrain-tutorial/#findComment-1265819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Vengeant Posted May 25, 2007 Author Share Posted May 25, 2007 reserved for table pics. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/110333-terrain-urban-terrain-tutorial/#findComment-1266243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marovingean Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 Could you shrink your pics? They take ages to load....... M Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/110333-terrain-urban-terrain-tutorial/#findComment-1266433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Vengeant Posted May 26, 2007 Author Share Posted May 26, 2007 Fixed Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/110333-terrain-urban-terrain-tutorial/#findComment-1266791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squiggoth Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 How do I do that? Use Photobucket.com instead of Imageshack as a host ..... Imageshack is horribly slow to upload and it showers your PC with annoying pop-ups, whilst Photobucket is fast, free of pup-ups, gives you the IMG url to any picture with a single mouse click, and has an option to resize your pictures when you upload them (both pixel-wise and Kb-wise). 700 pixels wide is more than enough for forum use and prevents the scrollbar and ten minutes of uploading. ;) The terrain looks good though, especially that barbed wire thingy ... inspiring. :teehee: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/110333-terrain-urban-terrain-tutorial/#findComment-1266855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Vengeant Posted May 30, 2007 Author Share Posted May 30, 2007 Updated with reduce pic sizes and finished product!!! Thanks to squiggoth for the tip on photobucket. So much easier to work with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/110333-terrain-urban-terrain-tutorial/#findComment-1269397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marovingean Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Thanks for sorting that :) M Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/110333-terrain-urban-terrain-tutorial/#findComment-1269414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Chaplain Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 wow, this will serve as a great tutorial for when I get around to making a gaming table--thanks a lot brother! any chances of a urban basing tutorial for models too? *hint hint* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/110333-terrain-urban-terrain-tutorial/#findComment-1269812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Vengeant Posted May 31, 2007 Author Share Posted May 31, 2007 Sure I would gladly do a basing tutorial for models, although Its not something I've done a whole lot of. I basically use the same basic stuff as above. My one tip would be to base before spraying the model. Also I would recomend painting the base before the model, to prevent you drybrushing over your paint job. I am going to add some pictures of the table when completed, although I have a few more scenery pieces to do before I will feel the table is ready for gaming. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/110333-terrain-urban-terrain-tutorial/#findComment-1270133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Vengeant Posted June 3, 2007 Author Share Posted June 3, 2007 I have made a table out of two 2x4 ft sheets of MDF (Medium density fibre board) which is available at any lumber yard. I strapped it together with 2 inch strapping and screws (used for strapping the side of brick houses to put up siding). Then I put some rubber furniture stoppers on the strapping so that it doesn't scratch the table that I use to place it on. After that I used a textured spray paint to paint the surface rather than go through the painful process of basing a city table as outlined in the GW books. http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0546.jpg http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0545.jpg http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0697.jpg http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0699.jpg http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x284/Dark_Vengeant/IMG_0698.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/110333-terrain-urban-terrain-tutorial/#findComment-1272170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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