PanzerSmurf Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 After watching the other frater entries... yep, I'm boned :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/113890-the-call-of-chaos/page/17/#findComment-1383004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunchBox Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Not that anyone was suggesting this, but anyone 'needy' enough to vote for themselves has no self discipline, thus their painting stinks anyway; therefor, they won't win anyhow. My second topic: It's amazing how many stunning entries there are. The other thing that amazes me, is what people see...are you judging based on concept, overall appearance, modeling/conversion, painting skill/technique...or maybe something else? Withough mentioning specific entries (obviously), what are some of the things ya'll are looking at, or giving weight to? I'll start with me: I'm looking at quality of painting first, overall appearance/theme second (a close second), and modeling/conversion 3rd. How 'bout you? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/113890-the-call-of-chaos/page/17/#findComment-1383024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan the Lurker Posted October 4, 2007 Author Share Posted October 4, 2007 We have no issue with people voting for themselves -- in past contest we didn't allow it but for this one we have no such restrictions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/113890-the-call-of-chaos/page/17/#findComment-1383027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiflewood Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Aww darn it. I already cast my votes :) Ah well, as people have already stated, its very unsportsmanlike, and as Lunchbox alreayd said, if you need to vote for yourself you're probably not going to win anyway. As for my voting, I didn't go for painting skills first, I went for the Overall apperance/atomosphere/theme/pose first, as I think that that is probably one of the hardest things to get right in a model, and that a model can look really good even if it doesn't have totally top notch painting. So yeah, that was my first criteria, and painting and modelling was my (joint) second. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/113890-the-call-of-chaos/page/17/#findComment-1383032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allerka Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 For me, it's been more an overall combination of posing/conversion work, paint quality, and general "cool" factor. Some had some absolutely beautiful modeling work done on them, while others still looked great with stock parts. So, I haven't really categorized it per say, as just gone with what was the most overall impressive. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/113890-the-call-of-chaos/page/17/#findComment-1383080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronophague Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Good thing I already voted, no "temptations" for me then :cuss Which entries were pulled, I can't for the life of me remember what's missing, I have the memory of a goldfish... Had to check that it wasn't me, because I'm so paranoid. ^_^ Cheers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/113890-the-call-of-chaos/page/17/#findComment-1383123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkApostle Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Good thing I already voted, no "temptations" for me then :cuss Which entries were pulled, I can't for the life of me remember what's missing, I have the memory of a goldfish... Had to check that it wasn't me, because I'm so paranoid. ^_^ Cheers Same here, with the exeption of the memory = goldfish thing. http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d81/TheDarkApostle/other%20stuff/hmlolkz3.png Managed to find out which Mod one that was DQed, can't realize which Frater that was pulled though. http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d81/TheDarkApostle/other%20stuff/hm.png TDA Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/113890-the-call-of-chaos/page/17/#findComment-1383143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
number6 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Managed to find out which Mod one that was DQed Yep, that would be me. :cuss My bad. ^_^ If you wanna see my effort, check out my final post in the Mod Contest blog. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/113890-the-call-of-chaos/page/17/#findComment-1383166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellChyld Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 entry 47 was pulled as terminator armor wasn't allowed and his entry was just that. nicely painted yes but still terminator armour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/113890-the-call-of-chaos/page/17/#findComment-1383168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoHunter Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 When I look through the entries, I am looking only on the quality of the paint job. I do not take the modded bases or the additional conversions added in. Just the paint job. After all, it is a PAINTING contest. Not a contest of who can come up with the most elaborate entry with extravagant bases. Just the painting quality. And I am already having a hard time deciding which three shall I cast my vote on. And no. I do not believe in voting for your own entry. It just reeks of unsportsmanship like behaviour and its disgusting. It also displays desperation on the part of the painter. Desperation to win. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/113890-the-call-of-chaos/page/17/#findComment-1383396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 When I look through the entries, I am looking only on the quality of the paint job. I do not take the modded bases or the additional conversions added in. Just the paint job. After all, it is a PAINTING contest. Not a contest of who can come up with the most elaborate entry with extravagant bases. To be honest, this line of thought seems best applied if everyone is painting the same mini. Otherwise, it's a bit unfair to discount an aspect of a person's hard work. An awesome conversion can be dragged down by a sub-par pain job and vice versa. You have to take it as a whole IMO, especially when people are given such relative freedom for their ideas. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/113890-the-call-of-chaos/page/17/#findComment-1383408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoHunter Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 Hmm...you may be right but I will still have to disagree with you. Partly. Not totally. If you have two guys who can paint remarkably well enter the contest. One of them just paints up a Chaos Space Marine with no special bases. Just you standard sand and grass. The other paints up a Chaos Space Marine with a rock base with skulls littered on it, who would you vote to be the best then? You have to remember something. It is a painting competition after all. If you are looking at the overall and taking conversions and bases into consideration, then the words "Painting Contest" would be quite inappropriate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/113890-the-call-of-chaos/page/17/#findComment-1383426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tagsta Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 awesome entries =) my entry won't stand a chance :cuss also great to see some preheresy/heresy era themed marines can't wait for the results Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/113890-the-call-of-chaos/page/17/#findComment-1383507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCC Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 Folks please remember that you've been asked to not talk about specific, actual entries, this includes which ones you like and which you voted for and why and basically anything to do with the models until after the voting period is over. Thanks for you co-operation :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/113890-the-call-of-chaos/page/17/#findComment-1383537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronophague Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 You have to remember something. It is a painting competition after all. If you are looking at the overall and taking conversions and bases into consideration, then the words "Painting Contest" would be quite inappropriate. If it was "only" a painting contest, the mods would/should have asked everyone to paint a stock standard chaos marine with a bolter, and no extra bits. Period. You don't need to read the rules of a painting contest like some rules lawyer reads the 40k rules. :) Usually I feel that people who feel a need to talk about their specific subjective, and somehow pretty seemingly biased, opinions about HOW to vote, often have a angle to their approach. You can vote like you want. What I dislike is your need to try to "justify" your way of voting over that of others. Someone can base his voting solely on conversion dynamics. Or basing. Or judging boots. Also, this here contest is more of a forum promotional, member enjoyment increasing, for fun contest, that the mods have gotten sponsors for. I think any form of dead serious "rules" arguments about the painting competition is pretty vain. Painting competitions, as well as in real art as in miniatures, is about creating an "image" of something. I personally think the whole thing counts, how the model fits the base, how the paintjob complements the mood you're shooting for, etc etc. Offcoruse, this is just my biased opinion, and I don't try to preach it to everyone around me. But I thought I'd add it in for complementary reasons. :) Just my view on the matter. I however encourage everyone to vote by their own standards, not by someone elses standards. Cheers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/113890-the-call-of-chaos/page/17/#findComment-1383617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tagsta Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 Folks please remember that you've been asked to not talk about specific, actual entries, this includes which ones you like and which you voted for and why and basically anything to do with the models until after the voting period is over. Thanks for you co-operation :ph34r: if you refer to my post then sorry. I just tried to make it sound "general" but I hear what you mean...no conversation about likes and dislikes until after the voting sorry again Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/113890-the-call-of-chaos/page/17/#findComment-1384073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlandMoonGuy Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 Look at it this way... say you were comparing 2 models that both showed excellent painting but one also had some interesting conversions w/a little green stuff work and a base that added a narrative quality to the model. Which would win out? Composition & presentation is all part of "painting" as it's a mixed media competition by nature. So in my mind, modeling, basing, converting, etc. all play a role and there are some great examples in this comp. Best of luck to all of you who entered. -OMG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/113890-the-call-of-chaos/page/17/#findComment-1384280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunchBox Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 Look at it this way... say you were comparing 2 models that both showed excellent painting but one also had some interesting conversions w/a little green stuff work and a base that added a narrative quality to the model. Which would win out? Composition & presentation is all part of "painting" as it's a mixed media competition by nature. So in my mind, modeling, basing, converting, etc. all play a role and there are some great examples in this comp. Best of luck to all of you who entered. -OMG Absolutely...equal painting skill defers to modeling, and when equal defer to overall theme. We can't discuss specific entries, but in any painting comp, excellently painted minis will lose out to an equal who's base is more fitting...or especially one that creates a mood. A good example I think, is the Chicago Slayer Swrod mini from this year...the mood of that mini won the judges over, even though the Silver was arguably better painted. It's a nerve racking, and thrilling experience, entering painting competitions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/113890-the-call-of-chaos/page/17/#findComment-1384352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allerka Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 It's a nerve racking, and thrilling experience, entering painting competitions.[/b] QF-freaking-T. I haven't done any painting competitions since the 2003 Chicago GD, and I've come a LONG way since then, but I was still borderline panicking for this, getting all paranoid about each and every possible little mistake, and what little things I could do to make it look even better... Eventually, I just had to sit back, take a breath, relax, and submit the pics. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/113890-the-call-of-chaos/page/17/#findComment-1384458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StratoKhan Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 Some great stuff here and in the mods thread. It's going to be hard to figure out the three to cast votes on. Guess I'll just go with my oldschool approach and save the favourite models to a folder, and then reduce pics till I got 3 left. ;) Cheers Just did the same thing! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/113890-the-call-of-chaos/page/17/#findComment-1384648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoHunter Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 After pondering on the entries for so long, I still can't pick the best three! So, I gave up. Can't wait to see the results of the voting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/113890-the-call-of-chaos/page/17/#findComment-1385222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac painting Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 Don't give up. The more votes the better. If you can't decide just look at them and feel them. Don't analyse just pick those you like. Imagine you are at the minis mall and heve a free voucher for 3 minis. Pick those you would want to own. Thats all. leszczyk Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/113890-the-call-of-chaos/page/17/#findComment-1385244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan the Lurker Posted October 7, 2007 Author Share Posted October 7, 2007 Today ( Oct. 7) is the last day to get your votes in! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/113890-the-call-of-chaos/page/17/#findComment-1385282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunchBox Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 Today ( Oct. 7) is the last day to get your votes in! Would I be correct in assuming the voting goes until 23:59? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/113890-the-call-of-chaos/page/17/#findComment-1385333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkApostle Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 Indeed you are Lunch. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/113890-the-call-of-chaos/page/17/#findComment-1385508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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