Tinweasel Posted January 10, 2009 Author Share Posted January 10, 2009 Based on some feedback over at the Relicnews P&M Forum, I figgered out what was off with Berzerker #1 and fixed it tonight. Essentially I was aiming for something like this: He's in a mid-air lunge over battlefield debris towards the nearby Sergeant of a groveling Loyalist Marine squad. While emptying the clip of his bolt pistol at the rest of the squad, he's got his arm cocked back ready to cave the skull of the Sergeant with the spiked knuckle guard of his chainsword when he tackles him to the ground, the chainsword's sawteeth hungrily whirring on the blade for the finishing slash. Don't have time to post pics tonight, though. I've stayed up way too late as it is... On the positive side, I've got pics of Berzerker #2! Part of the delay with this guy (other than the work on #1) was my inclination to mount skulls spiked to his shoulder pad. Only problem is, the pad's too small and it would cover up the Warband insignia. I just decided to say "screw it" and run with him as-is - maybe I'll tack on (or have hanging from chains) some skulls on one of the later Berzerkers. http://home.wowway.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/gw_db2_wip.jpghttp://home.wowway.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/gw_db2_wip2.jpghttp://home.wowway.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/gw_db2_wip3.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/119449-the-disciples-of-the-four/page/3/#findComment-1837216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinweasel Posted January 11, 2009 Author Share Posted January 11, 2009 Okay, here's my first Berzerker reworked slightly: http://home.wowway.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/gw_db1_wip6.jpghttp://home.wowway.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/gw_db1_wip7.jpghttp://home.wowway.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/gw_db1_wip8.jpg I'm thinking the repose of the arm and the addition of something concrete (ha!) to fill up the formerly empty base have gone a ways as to making the pose seem less awkwards. I would definitely appreciate feedback! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/119449-the-disciples-of-the-four/page/3/#findComment-1838473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megalodon Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Looking good Tin, I think you're right the reposed arms helps alot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/119449-the-disciples-of-the-four/page/3/#findComment-1838514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captin Xavier Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Great work so far mate :P As for that 'zerker arm, personally i think you should angle it the other way to lok as though he is slashing as he is coming down as well as looking a little more comfortable. Cheers Cpt X Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/119449-the-disciples-of-the-four/page/3/#findComment-1838840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinweasel Posted January 25, 2009 Author Share Posted January 25, 2009 I'm thinking so far as Instant Death weaponry goes, a Dremel Multipro Rotary Tool has got to be right up there with the best of 'em: http://home.wowway.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/gw_db3_wip2.jpg Do you have any suggestions on how a Loyalist-turned-Renegade could "blot out" their former insignia - both Chapter and Aquila in a way that would "look cool?" I've been kicking around a few ideas, like "shoddily applied paint job" (which is already flaking to reveal the former colors underneath) or the obvious - scar and scuff the hell out of it, as if the wearer intentionally desecrated his insignia. The trouble is, one would need to be done prior to painting and the other during- and I wouldn't want "intentional" scarring to conflict with any battle damage (or corrupted mutation) to make things look "over the top." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/119449-the-disciples-of-the-four/page/3/#findComment-1857154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinweasel Posted January 29, 2009 Author Share Posted January 29, 2009 At this point I've done quite a bit more stripping of large areas of plastic from the original figure, both using cutting bits and sanding disks. Through the process, I measured and compared against an original multi-part Marine torso to make sure that I didn't trim off more than necessary, especially around the collar area. The rest is intentional scarring and battle damage. I'll need to deepen the hole at the neck for the head to inset properly, but I'm also planning on adding a whole lot of cables and wires which might actually fill the void. http://home.wowway.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/gw_db3_wip3.jpg The planned additions I've got a mind to do are a custom backpack, the addition of added riveted plates and wiring/cables into his head/skull, a selection of tanks full of "happy drugs" like Onslaught, Frenzon, etc, to be pumped directly into his system and a Khornate "mutation" of his hand fused with his chainsword. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/119449-the-disciples-of-the-four/page/3/#findComment-1863266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinweasel Posted January 30, 2009 Author Share Posted January 30, 2009 Near as I can tell, the Ultramarine Omega symbol with the skull in the center simply signifies a Sergeant, which works out not too horribly so far as him "defecting" to join my Warband's Berzerkers, I suppose. Had a look through the Insignium Astartes last night... I've also updated my previous post with the multiple views of the "lunging" Berzerker to show the opposite side view. It was pointed out to me that I didn't have a pic from that side for commentary/critique's sake and I just got around to taking one last night when taking some other pictures for a painting competition ramping up over on the Relicnews Painting & Modeling Forum. Feedback would be appreciated on posing and such... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/119449-the-disciples-of-the-four/page/3/#findComment-1864059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinweasel Posted January 31, 2009 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 Well, I've mostly completed the chainsword "hand," have the plates and wiring and such on his skull as a WIP, and haven't even started on the backpack... http://home.wowway.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/gw_db3_wip4.jpg What I'd really appreciate at this point is feedback on the overall appearance. I plan on tying some skulls to the chain at his waist, but other than that, he's not exactly screaming "Khorne-loving ex-Loyalist Berzerker" to me... I also can't for the life of me think what sorts of mutations/gifts a follower of Khorne would have - Nurgle's changes are generally pretty straightforwards, Slaanesh has the whole "pale skin, leather, and Cenobite" thing going on, Tzeentch is magical alteration and the like... the only thing I can find so far as Khorne is grafted weapons, bone spikes, studs and skulls (lots of skulls!) What do you folks think would make this guy more Khornate-looking? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/119449-the-disciples-of-the-four/page/3/#findComment-1865008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the thousandth whisper Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Tinweasel: What do you folks think would make this guy more Khornate-looking? I think what would make him very khornate is a big trophy rack with skulls helmets all dripping with blood, and gore splattered over his arms and some of his chest Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/119449-the-disciples-of-the-four/page/3/#findComment-1865038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinweasel Posted February 28, 2009 Author Share Posted February 28, 2009 http://home.wowway.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/gw_db3_wip6.jpg I've been trying to get to a point where the main part of my concept for this guy would actually be able to come across in pictures, and I'm hopefully at that point. It's a decent amount of fiddly work in terms of fastening in the guitar wire and individual rivets, but the upside is that I have complete control over the bending and areas I want flexed in the cables and that I can adjust the height and overall state of damage and such to the rivets and metal plating on his head and things like that. I mentioned that I figgered out a way to get respectable bends on the guitar wire without having the individual coils get spaced wonky - I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who hasn't played guitar in the past. (That being said, I figgered out a slight adjustment in the process using narrow-diameter rubber tubing from our spare fish tank air hose to protect a pair of needle-nose hobby pliers from damaging the guitar wire. I also decided to go with two Loyalist shoulder pads, since the large right one with the raised rim conflicted with the cable running over his right shoulder - I also decided that I'd save the fancy raised pads for leader- or veteran-types in this squad, so as to designate things a bit more clearly. (He's got a deface-able right pad with a name scroll, though.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/119449-the-disciples-of-the-four/page/3/#findComment-1901854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinweasel Posted March 14, 2009 Author Share Posted March 14, 2009 I actually have the backpack in progress (finally) and it's starting to look as I envisioned it - I'm going to wait until I've got things a little further along and I at least have one or two of the chemical tanks done before I post a pic, though, so you guys can see where I'm trying to go with it and I don't have to explain "well, this is eventually going to be here" and such. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/119449-the-disciples-of-the-four/page/3/#findComment-1917300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinweasel Posted May 10, 2009 Author Share Posted May 10, 2009 Well, I've finished work on the inducted Loyalist Berzerker - I'm thinking former Ultramarine, just for the sake of a stand-out paint scheme with lots of weathering and chipped paint. The biggest time sink was the backpack, actually, but more from a "let me test this out so I can make sure I'm doing it right" standpoint - everything, more or less, is replicable. I especially wanted to get the process down for converting standard SM backpacks into oddly-shaped or customized CSM equivalents. Another reason for the long working time on this one guy is our new(ish) baby - 2 1/2 months old and still not allowing me much sleep most of the time. Enough rambling, here's the finished inducted Berzerker: http://home.wowway.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/gw_db3_wip15.jpg If anybody notices anything out of place or needing fixing, by all means let me know. Comments and suggestions most definitely welcome! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/119449-the-disciples-of-the-four/page/3/#findComment-1982888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fausto2071 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 wow! the pack looks very well-done! good job Tin Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/119449-the-disciples-of-the-four/page/3/#findComment-1982895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinweasel Posted April 19, 2010 Author Share Posted April 19, 2010 Been a while since an update, but I've been working mostly on non-power armored stuff. http://home.wowway.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/gw_db4_wip.jpghttp://www.wideopenwest.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/gw_d_berzerkers_wip.jpg My finalized Disciples of the Four warband icon: http://www.wideopenwest.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/d4_icon.png I figger I can post this, since it's for a Nurgle Renegades 'n' Heretics force with included Plague Marines using an army list from Imperial Armour Vol. Seven. The first of at least two Renegade Psykers: http://www.wideopenwest.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/fw_d_psyker_fin_front.jpghttp://www.wideopenwest.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/fw_d_psyker_fin_rt.jpghttp://www.wideopenwest.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/fw_d_psyker_fin_back.jpghttp://www.wideopenwest.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/fw_d_psyker_fin_lt.jpghttp://www.wideopenwest.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/fw_d_psyker_fin_face.jpghttp://www.wideopenwest.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/fw_d_psyker_fin_top.jpghttp://www.wideopenwest.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/fw_d_psyker_fin_top2.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/119449-the-disciples-of-the-four/page/3/#findComment-2368988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGriffon Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 I like the name! Good painting as well. That backpack is crazy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/119449-the-disciples-of-the-four/page/3/#findComment-2369037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kataklysm Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 I kinda started out intentionally avoiding the underslung look to stay away from similarities to Marneus Calgar. It wasn't until after I'd already modeled it that I noticed Abaddon has twin bolters mounted on the back of one of his Power Claws - I guess I was at a loss as to what to do with the clip and with a lack of parts to model a self-feeding loop of rounds I just kept it as-is. Anyhow, I added spikes to the Fist and bolter housing as well as a horn similar to the shoulder pads on the right knee - was wondering if I could get feedback on appearances: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/bwride/gw_asp_champ_wip4.jpg I'm considering making the surface of the Power Fist look "fleshy," with the spikes and the bolter growing out of it, but I dunno if that'd be over the top. I need to do some GS work anyhow, so what do you all think? how did you make the spikes? carved plasticard? putty? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/119449-the-disciples-of-the-four/page/3/#findComment-2369343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyson_Vore Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 I like the blast wave on the psyker, I bet that power he is using is a doozy... or did he just get possessed? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/119449-the-disciples-of-the-four/page/3/#findComment-2369358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razblood Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 You want Khornate mutations then I think blades, spikes growing from the armour and bestial faces would be a start. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/119449-the-disciples-of-the-four/page/3/#findComment-2369497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinweasel Posted April 23, 2010 Author Share Posted April 23, 2010 I'm just finishing up the "Ultramarine" colored parts of an inducted Khorne Berzerker for my CSM Warband and I thought I'd post it and hopefully get some feedback: http://www.wideopenwest.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/gw_db3_wip18.jpghttp://www.wideopenwest.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/gw_db3_wip19.jpg This look about right for an Ultramarine scheme, or should I go a bit lighter? He's got the last of two steps of highlights now, a basecoat and shading wash, and a glaze of GW Blue Ink to tie it all together. (The metallics are simply shade basecoated, as is the flesh.) @ kataklysm - The spikes were made from styrene rod that I sharpened to points with a medium grit sanding disk using my Dremel. The nice thing about the high speed sanding is that it partially melts and stretches the plastic up and out, so it almost does most of the work of making it "pointier" just by going once around the sides - you just simply need to finish off the end then. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/119449-the-disciples-of-the-four/page/3/#findComment-2375026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinweasel Posted May 4, 2010 Author Share Posted May 4, 2010 Here's the first Plaguebearer I've ever painted, and my first time using an airbrush. I did him with some touch-ups via brush, but for the most part he was airbrushed as a practice figure and a color scheme test for a commission I'm working on: http://www.wideopenwest.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/gw_pb_fin_front.jpghttp://www.wideopenwest.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/gw_pb_fin_back.jpg I'm saying "done" because I think I've put in enough work for what will likely count as just a Lesser Daemon when I eventually work my way around to finishing a force. I'd like to do more to him, like maybe black ichor weeping from his eye sockets or something, but I'll save that until I get a few more Plaguebearers under my belt so I can see how they look as a group. He's also intentionally pale and dead-looking to contrast with the rest of the troops in my Warband, which will likely be brighter color-scheme inducted Loyalist SM's or my regular troops in a fleshy red and purple semi-quartered scheme. Here's the first two primed Berzerkers under way, including the converted inducted Loyalist 'zerker from my last post: http://www.wideopenwest.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/gw_db3_wip20.jpg A work-in-progress shot of the command Rhino for my Disciples of the Four warband: http://www.wideopenwest.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/gw_rhino_wip3.jpg Last, but not least, a picture of the classic Slaaneshi Champion figure that I'm likely going to use as a Slaanesh-aligned Chaos Lord (or more likely a Sorceror) in my warband: http://www.wideopenwest.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/gw_d_sorc_wip.jpg Comments, critiques, and suggestions welcome! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/119449-the-disciples-of-the-four/page/3/#findComment-2387673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL. Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 love the ideas and models your using. keep up the good work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/119449-the-disciples-of-the-four/page/3/#findComment-2390474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinweasel Posted May 6, 2010 Author Share Posted May 6, 2010 @ AL - Thanks! I'm starting to get over my loathing of prep work, I think. It seems to be going easier, anyways. I finished prepping and gluing him last night, so here's Berzerker #6: http://www.wideopenwest.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/gw_db6_wip.jpg"Do you want some candy?" I've been using him in his stuck-together-with-putty form as my Skull Champ w/ Power Fist, and he was one of the ones I posted in my "Tinweasel tries to get together 500 points in a day" thing on my painting website. He seems to have staying power, so I kept the same pose and exaggerated it, even, with his footing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/119449-the-disciples-of-the-four/page/3/#findComment-2390569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asrech Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Lot of good stuff my friend, great conversions and the painting is superb. The psychers green eyes are just perfect! Keep it up brother :D Cheers! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/119449-the-disciples-of-the-four/page/3/#findComment-2391030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinweasel Posted May 17, 2010 Author Share Posted May 17, 2010 I'm essentially finished up with painting the figure itself - I'll save any touch-ups for when I do those colors on the next guy(s). Here he is, in all his blood-colored Berzerker glory: http://www.wideopenwest.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/gw_db5_wip4.jpghttp://www.wideopenwest.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/gw_db5_wip5.jpg For what it's worth, I also posted a turorial of sorts on my painting website about how I go about painting the shoulder pads using this guy and my inducted Ultramarine Berzerker's as examples: http://tinweasel.blogspot.com/2010/05/hobb...ulder-pads.html Is the darker scheme still decent-looking, compared to the typical GW Blood Red-painted Berzerker? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/119449-the-disciples-of-the-four/page/3/#findComment-2402623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinweasel Posted May 18, 2010 Author Share Posted May 18, 2010 Just finished putting together some bitz last night in expectation of hopefully being able to field an army of 1,000 points by Thursday night for a friendly game. Granted, a lot of it's going to be proxies, but in theory none of the "specialty models" will be - special weapons, leaders, etc. Here are two different Legions inducted into the Disciples of the Four, one that's going to join Berzerker Squad Odium and the other in a CSM front line squad: http://www.wideopenwest.com/~tinweasel/gw_chaos_warband/gw_db7_wip.jpg I'm curious what people think of the figure on the right - ideally, he's supposed to look like a hardcore former Night Lord now inducted into my CSM force and I hope I'm getting that across. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/119449-the-disciples-of-the-four/page/3/#findComment-2403878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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