Can I ask some advice?

[Commander Skaav]

Ok, so the jist of the idea is that I have recently built and undercoated a squad of Chaos Space Marines and a Rhino. So far so good, but I want to go into a "realm of painting" I've not "ventured" into before.

 

The fact of the matter is, I want to paint them up as Alpha Legion Space Marines (I've used parts from both Space Marine and Chaos Marine sprues, so some chestplates have the new marks of Chaos on them.) The problem is, I don't know where to start with the colours, I've seen Alpha Legion, and in the old codex they seem to be a dark blue (alot darker than Midnight Blue used by the Night Lords) yet in the new codex they seem to be a lighter blue (appears to be Regal Blue to me).

 

I've looked on the Games Workshop website, and they seem to be the same as the previous codex when compared to the current edition, and the particular shade of blue, Storm Blue does not appear to exist any more. Is there a shade of blue that could replace this (I have thought about Necron Abyss). Also should I use Boltgun metal and then Mithril Silver, or go over the trim straight away with the latter?

 

If any one could give me some advice I'd be most grateful.

 

Cheers.

 

Skaav. -:lol:- :sick: :ph34r: :woot: :lol:

[feuer_faust]

I'd say Regal Blue over black will net some good results.

[Commander Skaav]

I'd say Regal Blue over black will net some good results.

 

I'll try that, thanks, I might water it down a little more than usual to get the darker style though, but I will post images of the finished result. ;)

[Roultox]

Dont forget there are blue and black inks you can play with, the black ink can make it seem darker instead of actually adding black to the pallet. Do it with a watered down ink so it layers evenly, and may require several applications. But first, you may want to try out the scales and get used to that, as repainting mistakes is time consuming!

[Commander Skaav]

I've painted 5 converted marines for this project (did them at my local branch of GW last Thursday night), will be posting some images soon :( :o :)

[Commander Skaav]

Can a mod close this topic please, I no longer require this.

[Brother Nihm]

There's no need to close it, just let it sink into obscurity. ;)

[Hally]

Sorry, as this is probably too late, but I thought this would be useful anyway; How to Paint Alpha Legionnaires

 

:rolleyes:

[Commander Skaav]

Sorry, as this is probably too late, but I thought this would be useful anyway; How to Paint Alpha Legionnaires

 

:lol:

 

Nope infact, the page is perfect, infact it's the sort of thing I've been searching for (it seems the search function does not work for me, it might be my PC though, it's a little tempremental), The Alpha Legion I've done (a squad of 5) so far, don't really meet my expectations, so this will be of great use to me.

 

Many thanks for pointing me in its direction. ;) :D :D

[Dammeron]

Quite a dark blue like Regal Blue as has already been suggested works quite well. Don't forget, the Alpha Legion also ritually decorate their armour with scale patterns to represent their legion symbol of the Hydra; you might want to try shading in some greens etc when you feel confident enough, although please for the love of Slaanesh don't try to copy the method used in the current codex, as it's freaking horrible....

[Hally]

Sorry, as this is probably too late, but I thought this would be useful anyway; How to Paint Alpha Legionnaires

 

;)

 

Nope infact, the page is perfect, infact it's the sort of thing I've been searching for (it seems the search function does not work for me, it might be my PC though, it's a little tempremental), The Alpha Legion I've done (a squad of 5) so far, don't really meet my expectations, so this will be of great use to me.

 

Many thanks for pointing me in its direction. ;) ;) :D

Glad to be of help :)

[Commander Skaav]

Quite a dark blue like Regal Blue as has already been suggested works quite well. Don't forget, the Alpha Legion also ritually decorate their armour with scale patterns to represent their legion symbol of the Hydra; you might want to try shading in some greens etc when you feel confident enough, although please for the love of Slaanesh don't try to copy the method used in the current codex, as it's freaking horrible....

 

I'm with you on that, I don't really like the new Alpha Legion scheme, I'm planning on trying to do them in the style shown in the previous Codex to the current one, where they look more like the tradition Alpha Legion, in the way they should look(Does that even make any sense, because it doesn't really make any sense to me. :P :D ;) ).

 

:D :) B) ;) ;)

[Dammeron]

Quite a dark blue like Regal Blue as has already been suggested works quite well. Don't forget, the Alpha Legion also ritually decorate their armour with scale patterns to represent their legion symbol of the Hydra; you might want to try shading in some greens etc when you feel confident enough, although please for the love of Slaanesh don't try to copy the method used in the current codex, as it's freaking horrible....

 

I'm with you on that, I don't really like the new Alpha Legion scheme, I'm planning on trying to do them in the style shown in the previous Codex to the current one, where they look more like the tradition Alpha Legion, in the way they should look(Does that even make any sense, because it doesn't really make any sense to me. :P :lol: -_- ).

 

:D :) B) :P :P

 

 

Made sense to me, but then again, my brain does tend to work in an arse backwards fashion these days.

Really, it doesn;t necessarily matetr what shade of blue you use. When the Alpha Legion were originally fleshed out in the second ed Chaos Codex, they were a kind of sky blue with silver trim and scale pattern, then in the 3.5 codex they became much darker with a faint green tinge to the blue. It seems to me that it's one of the colour schemes GW have always had trouble with, since in theory it sounds more classically "imperial" than Chaos.

 

I've always found that the best thing to do is just experiment 'til you fidn asystem that works for you. Trying to copy the miniatures in white dwarf or other people's schemes simply doesn't work, for the simple reason that there are minutiae of style and technique that cannot be communictaed through type, spoken word or even demonstration.

[Commander Skaav]

Quite a dark blue like Regal Blue as has already been suggested works quite well. Don't forget, the Alpha Legion also ritually decorate their armour with scale patterns to represent their legion symbol of the Hydra; you might want to try shading in some greens etc when you feel confident enough, although please for the love of Slaanesh don't try to copy the method used in the current codex, as it's freaking horrible....

 

I'm with you on that, I don't really like the new Alpha Legion scheme, I'm planning on trying to do them in the style shown in the previous Codex to the current one, where they look more like the tradition Alpha Legion, in the way they should look(Does that even make any sense, because it doesn't really make any sense to me. -_- :D :) ).

 

:) :) B) :) :o

 

 

Made sense to me, but then again, my brain does tend to work in an arse backwards fashion these days.

Really, it doesn;t necessarily matetr what shade of blue you use. When the Alpha Legion were originally fleshed out in the second ed Chaos Codex, they were a kind of sky blue with silver trim and scale pattern, then in the 3.5 codex they became much darker with a faint green tinge to the blue. It seems to me that it's one of the colour schemes GW have always had trouble with, since in theory it sounds more classically "imperial" than Chaos.

 

I've always found that the best thing to do is just experiment 'til you fidn asystem that works for you. Trying to copy the miniatures in white dwarf or other people's schemes simply doesn't work, for the simple reason that there are minutiae of style and technique that cannot be communictaed through type, spoken word or even demonstration.

 

Well I am going to use my Chaos Raptors (using mixed Imperial Assault Marines and Chaos Space Marines plastic Kits) as a basis, but what I will do is attempt to paint them all similarly in the style of Alpha Legion, but try to make each one unique using blues and greens (though I will still attempt to keep them as uniform as possible, it will be that one will look slightly different from the other, in the 5 Marine squad)

[Muskie]

I badgered someone into revealing his Alpha Legion secrets, it is in Nihm's Handbook thread. But if you want the perfect color scheme, I recommend Green and Purple.

 

It looks good on everything:

One

Two

Three

[Commander Skaav]

I badgered someone into revealing his Alpha Legion secrets, it is in Nihm's Handbook thread. But if you want the perfect color scheme, I recommend Green and Purple.

 

It looks good on everything:

One

Two

Three

 

Some excellent peices to be seen via the links, the green and purple works especially well with the Deathguard (might use that idea for my Crypt Ghoul project (I'm using VC Crypt Ghouls to make Nurgle Plague Bearers) so I might use the colours for different tones.

 

I myself have what I call signature colours, both of which are by Games Workshop and they are...

 

Liche Purple

Firey Orange

 

If used correctly they can look good together, but the orange must be used extremely sparingly else it would ruin the look of an entire model, I find it works best on the exhausts of a Space Marine backpack, and on the strip that runs along the top of their helmet.

 

The two colours could work well for both Slaanesh and Tzeentch, though I personally think it works a whole alot better for Tzeentch alone.

 

There are some examples in pages 2 and 3 within the gallery I've entitled as "Chaos Marines and Allies" which is visible on my profile.

[Commander Skaav]

Have not yet begun on the new versions of Alpha legion for my Chaos Army, I've been distracted by a conversion guide for creating custom Thousand Sons from plastic, so A.L. might take a back seat for the time being whilst I plan for the newest idea of mine.

 

The thing is, I never seem to have one job finished before I jump right into the next, at the moment I not only have my Daemons to paint, but also a squad of Renegade Raptors and a squad of Renegade Havocs, all of which are ready to paint, (the Raptors and Havocs may become my Alpha Legion, but I might not do them like that).