RocknChaos Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Just as my question asks. And if not ..why? And if so...Anyone have any pics of them?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/125354-chaos-speeders/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 there is no option for a speeder in the chaos dex , so its illegal . Simple as that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/125354-chaos-speeders/#findComment-1442048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kha'delath Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 did someone say VDR? :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/125354-chaos-speeders/#findComment-1442050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 They might be disallowed at tournaments, but amongst friends they can usually "count as" bikes. There's a picture of one which is made my Mabothrax, in the Call of Chaos II. Link below. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/125354-chaos-speeders/#findComment-1442051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocknChaos Posted December 13, 2007 Author Share Posted December 13, 2007 FLuff wise..there would'nt be any reason why Chaos could'nt use one...right?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/125354-chaos-speeders/#findComment-1442054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocknChaos Posted December 13, 2007 Author Share Posted December 13, 2007 Ah yes the VDR. I've never messed with the VDR before. Does that work well with Chaos armies?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/125354-chaos-speeders/#findComment-1442060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPYDeR13 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 You can take the Space Marine Suppression force battle formation in Apocalypse games. I know it's only one but it's still a speeder. Other then that no Chaos can't have speeders. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/125354-chaos-speeders/#findComment-1442113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordus Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Like you said, there is no reason fluff-wise. Other then perhaps they're more modern, ie. Post-Heresy only, and those stolen were unoperable due to some sort of protection. Then again there's not much the Dark Adeptus cant convert to chaos machine wise. Perhaps the chaos gods simply hate floating cars? My weirder idea :P ! If you DID find rules, then you could most likely convert one easily with chaos vehicle fram bitz, and perhaps even a mutated one, like: Tzeentch: Winged or HUGE magical flame firing boosters (think the Flamers of Tzeentch but BIGGA!) Nurgle: A giant slug-like one, or maybe even one that stays aloft like a hovercraft with putrid gas. :P ! Slaanesh: A sorta spider-thing, or perhaps one pulled by Steeds of Slaanesh. Khorne: Its grown mechanical LEGS! Lol! Or more seriously, maybe its boosters fire it along like a fire hose, only with BLOOD not water! Just my 2 cents hehe ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/125354-chaos-speeders/#findComment-1442129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Bjoern Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 You mean something like that? A friend made them and uses him with the VDR. http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x120/DarkBjoern/Renes%20Chaos%20Forces/Bild001.jpg http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x120/DarkBjoern/Renes%20Chaos%20Forces/Bild008.jpg http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x120/DarkBjoern/Renes%20Chaos%20Forces/Bild006.jpg http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x120/DarkBjoern/Renes%20Chaos%20Forces/Bild004.jpg http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x120/DarkBjoern/Renes%20Chaos%20Forces/Bild003.jpg http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x120/DarkBjoern/Renes%20Chaos%20Forces/Bild002.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/125354-chaos-speeders/#findComment-1442194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanthier Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Well thanks to Apocalypse you can just take Land Speeders from the Space Marine codex. The reason for 'enemies' to be allies? Just renegade Land Speeders, or possibly the Chaos army only recently turned renegade and therefore has access to newer stuff. My Apocalypse force combines choices from the Space Marine and Chaos Marine lists. Apocalypse would let you take anything after all, if you can come up with a reason. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/125354-chaos-speeders/#findComment-1442478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roultox Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 Just say that daemonstones that induce anti-gravity are installed on your possessed ships. As for VDR, I'll just throw something up right now as en example of its cost. Usually its wise to just use one for a while until your group accepts that they are fair, (or rather unfair for you because its spendy points-wise) and then you could use more, or stop at just 1. Fast Attack (80vehicle+45weapons) Hellspander: 125 Points 10/10/10 BS4 Skimmer, Enclosed, Fast, Small Light Vehicle Inferno Cannon, Melta Gun Its pretty much a skimmer-hellhound, about as durable because of the fast+skimmer combo, and it has 24" range so it can munch medium/light troops as well or better then an assault cannon, added in a meltagun in there for a secondary weapon since it would fit the heat-theme, and not a multi-melta because ammo storage for the Inferno Cannon requires a lot of space. Simple example. I saw some plans for a 3 spot mortar launching open topped one a while back, I tried it and it was pretty nice but they called it cheese so I didnt go through making it. Apparently a fast skimmer with 3 mortars on it is a little too hard to pin down to shoot. So be careful when you design something, keep the spirit of being equal in mind, and dont go making a 3 assault cannon beast. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/125354-chaos-speeders/#findComment-1442784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocknChaos Posted December 17, 2007 Author Share Posted December 17, 2007 Whoa...cool Models and ideas guys thanks. I will really look into those rules and possibly model something. I do like the size of the rino and maybe use it as the basis for a skimmer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/125354-chaos-speeders/#findComment-1445739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf 000 Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 any way when they first went traitor these armys would have had all these items wether a thunderhawk or a whirlwind Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/125354-chaos-speeders/#findComment-1517994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 any way when they first went traitor these armys would have had all these items wether a thunderhawk or a whirlwindholy thread-o-mancy batman! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/125354-chaos-speeders/#findComment-1518369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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