Cry Wolf Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Hey guys, ive been asked to do a tutorial by BLARRGG!! of how i did my true scale marines. The link is here. LINK Truescale Marines Scale comparison http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh236/CryOfTheWulfen/SS100081.jpg Bitz and tools The first thing is you need your bitz and tools. i used these http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh236/CryOfTheWulfen/SS100102.jpg Thats a tactical marine. http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh236/CryOfTheWulfen/SS100103.jpg Tools; vice, razor saw, cheap and expensive superglue, clippers, drill, triange and flat files and an xacto knife. The most important and most obvious is plasticard, i used 1mm. When i say do it roughly i find it easier to do the main neatening when it is together, the only exeption is on the arms which are fiddly is holdind across the body. The Legs Id recomend not moldlining before assembly as you can use this as how to align the legs after you chop then cut the legs here with a razor saw and vice, insert plasticard inbetween where you have cut. http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh236/CryOfTheWulfen/SS100106.jpg clip these down roughly but dont bother filling yet. Next cut the top section of the legs and, again insert plasticard spacers, http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh236/CryOfTheWulfen/SS100118.jpg again clip them down. Clip the top down so the ball joint is flat. http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh236/CryOfTheWulfen/SS100120.jpg The Body clip the pegs off the front of the body, then put 1mm plasticard onthe front http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh236/CryOfTheWulfen/SS100108.jpg Clip round the plasticard so it fits into the body. http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh236/CryOfTheWulfen/SS100111.jpg Then glue and line up the body. then glue a square of plasticard to the bottom and clip round it. http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh236/CryOfTheWulfen/SS100114.jpg Back pack Cut the backpack in half and yet again add a strip of plasticard inbetween. http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh236/CryOfTheWulfen/SS100107.jpg slice and clip this down roughly again. Arms First slice the arms under the sholderpad thing and insert a spacer. http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh236/CryOfTheWulfen/SS100109.jpg this should be filed properly as it will be arkward to do after assembly. Next do the same with the lower half of the arms, try to use details in the models arms as a guide when you are re glueing then. again file these properly. http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh236/CryOfTheWulfen/SS100123.jpg The Bolter (optional) This is optional as it depends on whether or not you like small guns or ones like the bolter fits now. I would recommend extending it as it looks better and fits nicer. http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh236/CryOfTheWulfen/SS100125.jpg File this properly for the same reasons as the arms. Finishing off This is the time to assemble your model. i recommend in these steps Glue the body to the legs The head(un converted) to the body Now add the head and a small spacer to the side of the arms holdind the bolter(to counter the spacer in its lower arm) ignore the one on the other shoulder as i did this wrong. i later dropped the camera so couldnt change it. http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh236/CryOfTheWulfen/SS100126.jpg Now glue on the arms, correcting the angles in them as nessecary(this is why i use super glue, it is easy to remove and restick) Glue to a base. This is done and the one i did for the tuturial turned out like this. http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh236/CryOfTheWulfen/SS100131.jpg Hope you liked this, its quite quick if you do it enough and one marine now takes me 30mins to make. post your own models and rate this please EDIT; removed optional before Finishing, i dont reccomend not doing this Cry Wolf Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/127035-modelling-true-scale-my-tuturial/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cry Wolf Posted January 7, 2008 Author Share Posted January 7, 2008 And now for the termies; http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh236/CryOfTheWulfen/SS100053.jpg http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh236/CryOfTheWulfen/SS100053.jpg http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh236/CryOfTheWulfen/SS100099.jpg On these i sawed the legs in half and added spacers to them, i used 2mm plasticard for this, but they need shoulder pads to look right, as they will look to slim if they havent got them. Them file the ball joint flat on the legs and put a spacer around the bottom of the body, this further increases the height. If you still think this looks to small bulk it up with GS like i have with this one. http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh236/CryOfTheWulfen/SS100057.jpg Or this http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh236/CryOfTheWulfen/SS100060.jpg Cry Wolf Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/127035-modelling-true-scale-my-tuturial/#findComment-1462147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLARGAG!!! Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Cry Wolf i give your tutorial an 11.5 out of 10!!!! thanks a lot for enlightening me to your ways of true scaling. i will post pics of marines that i do in this way (maybe later today if ur lucky) BLARGAG!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/127035-modelling-true-scale-my-tuturial/#findComment-1462149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakelet Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 VERY NICE! One HUGE request though - Please open Paint or whatever and shrink those pictures!! Keep the size, but save them at lower quality or something, no need to be over 200kb each IMO. Also, crop off the unneeded outside bits, leaving only a small amount around the outside. I hate having dial up, this thread is literally taking hours to load. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/127035-modelling-true-scale-my-tuturial/#findComment-1463254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherDamascus Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 so THATS how you do it? all hail Cry Wolf! i said hail! *shakes fist at monitor* lol a great way to truescale marines, i must try it tonight on a test mini - if im empressed ill re do my chaos! i mean it! your Truescale marines are soo cool <_< Cheers, <<BrotherDamascus>> Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/127035-modelling-true-scale-my-tuturial/#findComment-1463321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakelet Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 All the images have finally loaded and all I can say is WOW! Excellent job, I'm really tempted to do this now. Although it is a lot of work. Maybe for my Lord only? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/127035-modelling-true-scale-my-tuturial/#findComment-1464234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messanger of Death Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 WOW!!! That is alot of work you have put into your minitures. For those of us with less skills a way to increase the size of models is by placing plasticard on feet and also where legs and torso meet. Wont look anywhere near as good as what Cry Wolf has done, but it is a start. Looking forward to seeing them painted. Also with your technique is there a specific spot you have to insert the plasticard for each spot. For example with the legs, does it make a difference if you put the plasticard just above the ankle or just below the knee? Cheers Messanger Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/127035-modelling-true-scale-my-tuturial/#findComment-1464901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cry Wolf Posted January 10, 2008 Author Share Posted January 10, 2008 No i doesnt matter where you put it, i just recommend that you cut it in a place where you can easily line them up when you stick them back together Cry Wolf Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/127035-modelling-true-scale-my-tuturial/#findComment-1465078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakelet Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Thanks for shrinking the pictures mate. B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/127035-modelling-true-scale-my-tuturial/#findComment-1465124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiplash Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 do you chop some of the top leg socket off?? otherwise aren't you just glueing rounded edge to flat edge?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/127035-modelling-true-scale-my-tuturial/#findComment-1468261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cry Wolf Posted January 14, 2008 Author Share Posted January 14, 2008 Yeh i did this in the last picture under the legs title ;) Cry Wolf Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/127035-modelling-true-scale-my-tuturial/#findComment-1468339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund Himself Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Wants to steal for B&C Librarium... Chuck a few headers in and she'll be ready to go ;) BBCodes Tut. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/127035-modelling-true-scale-my-tuturial/#findComment-1469006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cry Wolf Posted January 16, 2008 Author Share Posted January 16, 2008 Cool ill put in headers ;) Cry Wolf Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/127035-modelling-true-scale-my-tuturial/#findComment-1470234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korloth Darkwolf Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I did a 'true scale' ish marine in power armour. I used the 1st edition plastic terminator legs on a spaced out power armour body and the terminator arms. It was my first attempt at a conversion but wanted a big wolf lord to lead my great company (when i get it done.) Your way seems less hassle by a long way. Cool tutorial. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/127035-modelling-true-scale-my-tuturial/#findComment-1470895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hakkon Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 I cant see the pictures anymore. You might have to move some of theme to a new account because your Photobucket account has exceded the bandwidth allowed. Id love to see the pics though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/127035-modelling-true-scale-my-tuturial/#findComment-1473280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakelet Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 I'm still not sure what I think of true-scale. It looks good, but doesn't it look really out of place and strange when gaming, especially against other power-armoured races? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/127035-modelling-true-scale-my-tuturial/#findComment-1473314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cry Wolf Posted January 21, 2008 Author Share Posted January 21, 2008 No it doesnt look out of place really, its better to put them on larger bases but its not really needed, Since the pics have gone down can anyone tell me how to sort this without doing Pro. For now here is a LINK Cry Wolf Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/127035-modelling-true-scale-my-tuturial/#findComment-1474120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiplash Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 what thickness platicar is that?? has anybody cossed this with doghouses gothic marine tecnique??? that would be UBER!!! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/127035-modelling-true-scale-my-tuturial/#findComment-1474192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakelet Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 then put 1mm plasticard onthe front Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/127035-modelling-true-scale-my-tuturial/#findComment-1474198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiplash Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 TY also what are the white rods made of??, on the termie banner and other places like the WG big axe dude (hes cool) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/127035-modelling-true-scale-my-tuturial/#findComment-1474199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
solid snake drive Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Argh, I can't see the pics! :wub: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/127035-modelling-true-scale-my-tuturial/#findComment-1474230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cry Wolf Posted January 21, 2008 Author Share Posted January 21, 2008 @ wiplash;Yeh i have some on the front page :wub:. and the big axe guy is from thick plasticard rod, I think 0.4 cm @ crusader; click on the new link on my last post Cry Wolf Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/127035-modelling-true-scale-my-tuturial/#findComment-1474237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiplash Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 where can i get hold of the rods in the UK?? hobbycraft?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/127035-modelling-true-scale-my-tuturial/#findComment-1474246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korloth Darkwolf Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 wiplash - i use johnsons cotton buds - the spare cotton pulled off them with a bit of pva brushed on lightly makes ok smoke for burnt out terrain etc. Hobbycraft only do balsa rods, well the nearest one to me does anyhow. Failing that try this place - Terrain Warehouse UK I havent used them but was thinking of giving them a go. If you use them would you be so kind as to let me know what they are like (delivery time, service etc.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/127035-modelling-true-scale-my-tuturial/#findComment-1474410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiplash Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 think i will use the cotton buds, cheaper and more accessable the pics at the top work for me now Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/127035-modelling-true-scale-my-tuturial/#findComment-1475104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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