Legio Draconis Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 In all the fluff I have found it states he was a powerfull psyker, had been around for a couple of hundred years, since before the unification. So my question is, was he one of the missing primarchs? Also could he have been the genetic template for the Adeptus custodes? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/131194-was-malcador-a-primarch/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 No he was the Emperor's advisor and when the Emperor left Terra to battle Horus he took his seat on the Golden throne to uphold a beacon or so. He died shortly before the Emperor was placed upon the Golden Throne. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/131194-was-malcador-a-primarch/#findComment-1511091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqatone Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 He was the First Lord of Terra during the Horus Heresy but not a Primarch, just a man. He was a powerful psyker who could communicate over long distances. He was a close advisor to the Emperor during the Battles of Unification, and the man credited with founding the Administratum of Terra. When he was tasked with taking up the Golden Throne it quite literally fried him alive it required so much psychic power. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/131194-was-malcador-a-primarch/#findComment-1511102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Hunter Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Didn't he help found the inquisition along with Garro and qruze Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/131194-was-malcador-a-primarch/#findComment-1511176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandmaster Cassius Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Only in the sense that he allowed it to happen Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/131194-was-malcador-a-primarch/#findComment-1511196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Hunter Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Oh, well he was a close as a normal human being could get to a primarch but he would be pwnd by any one of them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/131194-was-malcador-a-primarch/#findComment-1512031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ju'kosian Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Malcador the Sigilite (sp ?) was human, probably a superpsyker human but still human.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/131194-was-malcador-a-primarch/#findComment-1512906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of the Emperor Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Oh, well he was a close as a normal human being could get to a primarch but he would be pwnd by any one of them. Â I think the only Primarch that could have bested Malcador is Magnus the Red. Anyone else would have had their souls destroyed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/131194-was-malcador-a-primarch/#findComment-1513054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Kenaz Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 I seem to remember from the HH art books that he was likea brother to the Emperor, probably not literal, but who knows!? He was also part of picking some really pure and strong / dedicated marines for the emperor's secret project during the final days of the heresy. I always though that these may have been the original Grey Knights, or maybe a fledgling inquisition, but I have not read any of the HH literary novels, and just have all of the art books. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/131194-was-malcador-a-primarch/#findComment-1513251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Hunter Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 I think the only Primarch that could have bested Malcador is Magnus the Red. . Â I thought that all the primarchs were potential Psykers (Including Angron) and Sanguinius was also a very powerful psyker (I think) and leman russ beat magnus in combat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/131194-was-malcador-a-primarch/#findComment-1513379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levett Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Malcador was incredibly powerful. When the Emperor leaves to fight Horus, Malcador holds the webway under the golden throne shut. When Rogal Dorn brings back the Emperor, Malcador see's that the Emperor is dead, and converts all of his remaining life force into the Emperor, allowing the Emperors mind / soul to live on in the Golden Throne. Â No book has ever said if he was one of the few that started up the Grey Knights, but I'm guessing we will find out in the HH novels eventually =) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/131194-was-malcador-a-primarch/#findComment-1513392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of the Emperor Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 I think the only Primarch that could have bested Malcador is Magnus the Red. . Â I thought that all the primarchs were potential Psykers (Including Angron) and Sanguinius was also a very powerful psyker (I think) and leman russ beat magnus in combat. Â Â I'll give you that, but Magnus was also trying to protect all of his precious books and dirty secrets. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/131194-was-malcador-a-primarch/#findComment-1514557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Of Ultramar Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Malcador would have been destroyed by any of the Primarchs, if he ever had to face them. He is still a human. Yes, he's a really powerful psyker, but don't forget that the Primarchs are the leaders of the entire crusade. They would have had very powerful psychic wards to protect them from psykers attacks. Besides, when Malcador sat on the Golden Throne to keep the webway breach shut, the strain of it burned him out and killed him. He preserved a little bit of his power for the Emperor, but the point is it killed him. After all, the Emperor himself said that his first choice to sit on the Golden Throne would have been Magnus, but that obviously didn't happen after Horus ordered Russ to burn Prospero. And Storm Hunter, not all of the Primarchs had Psychic powers. In fact only Magnus did really, or at least trained himself to use them. I don't see Alpharius/Omegon, Guilliman, Dorn, in fact loads of the Primarchs, ever using any Psychic powers at all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/131194-was-malcador-a-primarch/#findComment-1522909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liltom Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Sanguinius WAS one of the most psychically (Sp?) active. He has a strong ability of forsight amongst other things. Magnus more so, yes, but sanguinius could probably make your eyes explode at the very least. Â Malcador actually turned to dust as he used his power to "Save" the emperor. To be able to expel that much energy, that quickly, shows him to be a powerful pysker. If he can turn himself to dust, he can turn plenty of people to dust. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/131194-was-malcador-a-primarch/#findComment-1524213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veahirin Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 The way I see it is Malcador sacrificed himself to put the Emperor on the Golden throne, it takes 1,000 psykers per day to keep him there. So Malcador was probably worth a thousand thousand psykers, if he could put the Emperor on the throne. Also he kinda undid what Horus did, that says a lot just there. Pretty bad mamba jomba. Â -V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/131194-was-malcador-a-primarch/#findComment-1524260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Hunter Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 I read sum where that angron and sanguinius had a psychic fight on the top of the walls of the palace but was probably angron jusy trying to remember where he was :rolleyes: Malcodor would totally own angron in a battle of the mind. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/131194-was-malcador-a-primarch/#findComment-1528075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dammeron Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 All of the fluff that exists on him (which isn't much) seems to suggest that he was some uber-powerful psyker of some sort, and most certainly NOT a primarch. Think of him sort of the Emperor's regent... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/131194-was-malcador-a-primarch/#findComment-1528076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Ri Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 I read sum where that angron and sanguinius had a psychic fight on the top of the walls of the palace but was probably angron jusy trying to remember where he was :rolleyes: Malcodor would totally own angron in a battle of the mind. In all fairness, an ork would probaly pummel angron in a battle of minds Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/131194-was-malcador-a-primarch/#findComment-1528087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dammeron Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 I read sum where that angron and sanguinius had a psychic fight on the top of the walls of the palace but was probably angron jusy trying to remember where he was :lol: Malcodor would totally own angron in a battle of the mind. In all fairness, an ork would probaly pummel angron in a battle of minds   To be fair, there is a difference between stupidity and insanity....I like to think that Angron epitomises the latter ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/131194-was-malcador-a-primarch/#findComment-1528097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Ri Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 I read sum where that angron and sanguinius had a psychic fight on the top of the walls of the palace but was probably angron jusy trying to remember where he was :lol: Malcodor would totally own angron in a battle of the mind. In all fairness, an ork would probaly pummel angron in a battle of minds To be fair, there is a difference between stupidity and insanity....I like to think that Angron epitomises the latter :D Maybe, but wheres the fluff about a psychic duel on the walls i've never heard that ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/131194-was-malcador-a-primarch/#findComment-1528104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Hunter Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 I don't know where i read it :huh: but still were gettin a bit off topic. In one answer Malcodor was not a Primarch but was a extremely powerful psyker who was the closest human to get any where near the power of a primarch. Also read in false gods that angron favourite tactic was to charge mindlessly at the enemy. World eaters only go insane in combat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/131194-was-malcador-a-primarch/#findComment-1528889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnars Claw Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Where did you get the fluff about Malcador dying from? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/131194-was-malcador-a-primarch/#findComment-1528901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
battle captain corpus Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Where did you get the fluff about Malcador dying from? Its in some of the recent Artwork books aswell as being mentioned in numerous smaller articles over the years. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/131194-was-malcador-a-primarch/#findComment-1528917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeklos Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 One thing to remember is that most primarchs were "gifted", but only Magnus was a full-fledged psyker. All could navigate the Warp to greater or lesser degrees (this is how Dorn finds the Eisenstein after the exiles detonate its warp engines), and some had prescience (Sanguinias) or other types of "tricks", but most never honed this power to actually use it to any degree. Â Malcador, however, was an immensely powerful (human) psyker who had obviously trained and focused his talent. Him fighting a full-fledged primarch would be a serious butt-whipping. Â It'd be like an 80-year-old martial arts master taking on a street tough. Sure, the thug has strength, youth, and speed on his side, but the master has experience and decades of practice. And if you've ever seen a real martial artist (never mind a full-fledged master!) fight, you know there's only one outcome to that kind of battle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/131194-was-malcador-a-primarch/#findComment-1529040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dammeron Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 It seems that there is some tacit implication in the fluff that Malcador has at least some relationship to both the Adeptus Custodes and the Sisters of Silence and their various splinters etc. Whether or not he fought alongside the Emperor during his conquest of Terra and beyond is somethign that intrigues me.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/131194-was-malcador-a-primarch/#findComment-1529084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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