Battle Damage on Black Armor

[Thucydides]

Greetings Brothers,

 

My search-fu yielded no results, so I thought I would ask. I have seen many tutorials on painting battle damage, but they all assume that your vehicles are painted any color other than black, so their method of using black marks as the base coat for the damage would not work with my BT army.

 

Does anyone know a good tutorial for this, or perhaps even knows which color to substitute?

 

Thanks

[Lorenzen]

huzzah for another person doing battle damaged templars!

 

my method of doing battle damage is to paint the area that the dammage is going to be with scorched brown, then a smaller area inside that painted catachan green, once thats done add boltgun.. theres a few bits of my stuff on here.. no tanks though only marines who get this treatment as well.. i think it comes out pretty well personally.

[Tsuro]

If I were to attempt it I'd try using a grey or possibly even white to represent the primer in the battle damage. I've not tried this myself though so I don't actually know if it'd be effective or not. Thats when the test model would come in.

 

 

Tsuro

[Narthecium]

A lighter color is going to be best. I think you'd lose colors like brown as a base for damaged armor.

 

Try something along the lines of codex grey to make the inital "damaged" area highlighted. Then just inside of the grey, start using black and other various colors. It'll give your damage highlight while still maintaining the damaged look that the black provides.

 

I'd say using a combination of boltgun / mithril / chainmail will also work well. Gives the "paint entirely scraped off by that bolter round that clipped me" feel to it. Highlight with watered down black ink though to make definition.

[Lorenzen]

http://a83.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/104/l_b13e7b99cbe21e5e28cd0f5fb86cffba.jpg

 

thats a basic version of the method i explained, with a chesnut ink was done afterwards to make the bare metal look more corroded, if you combine it with faint grey/white scratches or other methods such as not using "pure" black as your main colour it works really well (imo)

[Durus]

Well, I don't really have anything to add to what has been said already. But you might want to take a look at the pics here: http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/bla...ack_armor/3.htm

[Narthecium]

http://a83.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/104/l_b13e7b99cbe21e5e28cd0f5fb86cffba.jpg

 

thats a basic version of the method i explained, with a chesnut ink was done afterwards to make the bare metal look more corroded, if you combine it with faint grey/white scratches or other methods such as not using "pure" black as your main colour it works really well (imo)

 

 

While I like the quality of your painting, I gotta say (and maybe it's just the picture, but I dunno) that the brown almost looks more like decoration / highlight to me. I don't think "man he got shot up" when I see it, I think "Well that's cool highlighting."

[Thucydides]

thanks for all the replies. i have a test model laying around and i will try out all of these suggestions.

[Arka]

Hello. The Black Templars are a second founding chapter from the Imperial fists, so the armour of the Templars would have been originally yellow because all the equipment they have would have been from their progenitor chapter. I know this probably causes more problems than it fixes ;) as it is hard to go from yellow to black and make convincing damage but I hope someone can make use of it

[AdeptusDavidus]

Even if the armor in question was handed down from the Fists (which some could be, but probably not all, considering the tremendous amount of time and combat between the second founding and the 41st millenium, and almost certainly none of the Mk VII suits), I think it's more likely that they'd strip the yellow paint before painting them black.

[Playa]

Hey,

 

they'd strip the yellow paint before painting them

 

Maybe not.

 

Consider the reverence with which hundred-century-old Chapter Relics might be held.

Passed down from the Age of Legions! That's a pretty strong case for the "yellow primer" theory.

In my headcanon, brothers would strive mightily for the honour of incorporating one piece into their battlegear -

 

A greave here, a vambrace there, the occasional pauldron - proud relics all.

Strip paint that may once have been touched by The Primarch? By the Emperor Himself? I'm thinking 'no'.

 

 

Playa

 

Edit - lol threadomancy.

[WingsOfTheFalcon]

You think you've got it bad, try painting battle damage onto silver marines!

 

For black I would probably go with a dark grey with a lower edge highlight of the same grey with a touch of skull white in it.

[Arka]

Hello again. Good idea about the grey and that was what I originally tried, but it looks out of place with the grey highlighting and, anyone painting space marines silver has my sympathy as it is another colour to difficult to paint convincing battle damage on. I would go with a very thin uneven layer of black then lines of chain mail and on some of the scratches i would use mithrill to make some damage look deeper than others, but again this would be difficult to do convincingly

[Warsmith Aznable]

Red Gore. A little splattering of blood is way cooler than chipped paint!

[WingsOfTheFalcon]

Here's a link to a quick tutorial to what I tried to describe in my previous post: Paint battle damage on Black armour

[wacca]

I feel it depends on what colour you are using as your highlight, I am in the middle of painting my Ravenwing and highlight with a blue shade rather than grey. I have been using midnight blue for directional damage highlighted with shadow grey and space wolves grey along the lower edges. For larger or deeper areas this will have some silver in the centre, I then wash this with Gryphonne Sepia / Baal red / vomit brown for rust tones and wash over the lot with a very diluted black wash to tie it all together or black if it's in a lighter area. I always try to limit the amount of silver showing as it really stands out on black. also on black i think weathering with dust and mud with just a small amount of damage works best.

Here are some photos that I have used for inspiration. I must stress these are not my photos I found them on a Google search so credit to the painters.

not sure why these last two have come out small?

[Chaplain Gunzhard]

On my dreadnought I used mostly dark gray as a base... but black is difficult to make look worn. I ended up using rust pigments and washes of thinned Sanguine Base:

http://atticwars40k.blogspot.com/2011/10/s...ood-angels.html

[Venerable Jazzman]

I gouged out holes and used boltgun metal (I think) to highlight the hole - it's pretty primitive.

Wear and tear is boltgun and Snakebite Leather, and a Tamiya weathering stick.

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/fatjazzer/raz04.jpg

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/fatjazzer/new007.jpg