Hergrmir Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Greetings. So I've read on the internets that way back in the day each of the Chaos gods had a somewhat less fervent following from one of the traitor legions that weren't the 4 cult legions. Who would be linked with which? Or did I completely make this up while thinking I didn't? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/133774-undivided-legions-and-their-allegiances/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 You didn't make that up, it was back in the times of Slaves to Darkness. :D The ones I can remember at the top of my head is: Iron Warriors = Slaanesh Night Lords = Khorne Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/133774-undivided-legions-and-their-allegiances/#findComment-1539526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eetion Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Alpha Legion were Slannesh as well I think. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/133774-undivided-legions-and-their-allegiances/#findComment-1539585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hally Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 You didn't make that up, it was back in the times of Slaves to Darkness. :) The ones I can remember at the top of my head is: Iron Warriors = Slaanesh Night Lords = Khorne Wow. I wouldn't exactly say Iron Warriors are Slaanesh-y :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/133774-undivided-legions-and-their-allegiances/#findComment-1539810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidren2401 Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 I can see the connection. The pursuit of presision and perfection and all that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/133774-undivided-legions-and-their-allegiances/#findComment-1539842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alugard Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 You didn't make that up, it was back in the times of Slaves to Darkness. :) The ones I can remember at the top of my head is: Iron Warriors = Slaanesh Night Lords = Khorne Wow. I wouldn't exactly say Iron Warriors are Slaanesh-y :lol: Same here, i find them more on the Khorn side as the fluff says they are as brutal as Blood Angels and World Eaters in close quarter fighting. Hard to imagine them holding a holy sisters magazine monthly while being garrissoned . :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/133774-undivided-legions-and-their-allegiances/#findComment-1540185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaos strong Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 You didn't make that up, it was back in the times of Slaves to Darkness. :) The ones I can remember at the top of my head is: Iron Warriors = Slaanesh Night Lords = Khorne Wow. I wouldn't exactly say Iron Warriors are Slaanesh-y ;) Same here, i find them more on the Khorn side as the fluff says they are as brutal as Blood Angels and World Eaters in close quarter fighting. Hard to imagine them holding a holy sisters magazine monthly while being garrissoned . :huh: yes but jerking off aint the only mark of slaanesh. They are not very khorny because most khorne guys dont care if they live or die. They are pretty much whatever to the situation, cause its all blood/skulls for their god. Iron Warriors, are very self centered, perfection seeking individuals. So I can defintily see them there. I thought Alpha legion was Tzeentch tho, NOT slaanesh....or am i wrong? And Im pretty sure Word Bearers were also Tzeentch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/133774-undivided-legions-and-their-allegiances/#findComment-1540237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behdini Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 Alpha Legion being Tzeench is the only one that makes sense, they're plotting within plots within plots. They'se tricksy. Just look at Vraks... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/133774-undivided-legions-and-their-allegiances/#findComment-1540248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hally Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 I can see the connection. The pursuit of presision and perfection and all that. I see. You're quite right :tu: They are extremely self-centred. They want gene-seed and the death of their enemies. They care little for the Chaos gods, only for themselves. And they're pretty perfectionistic too, yeah. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/133774-undivided-legions-and-their-allegiances/#findComment-1540417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 But IW's used to be able to have 2 squads of brzrkrs as breach assaulting troops. Gotta remember that what slanny is about, has been changed more then any other god over the years. This strive for perfection thing is pretty new. I would agree that IW's would be more likely khorne if anything other then undivided. But I don't doubt Nihm that they were slanny based in "slaves to darkness", alot of the fluff has changed since then. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/133774-undivided-legions-and-their-allegiances/#findComment-1540625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 As chillin said, the fluff has changed pretty much completely since StD as back then the Chaos legions were little more than names with vague god attachments, they didn't even have defined color schemes. The "current" Iron Warriors as of the IA article are basically undivided/"atheistic" with some squads eventually falling to khorne worship after enough time storming breaches. This has basically been established in both the IA and especially Storm of Iron and I'm pretty sure berzerkers were only denied to IW in the 3.5 codex due to game balance and not fluff reasons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/133774-undivided-legions-and-their-allegiances/#findComment-1540981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penmarch' Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 Somehow Iron Warriors and Slaanesh are a perfect match. Well, I hope so anyway since my Brass Guardians ( Iron Warriors that 'kept the Faith') are equipped with sonic guns and blastmasters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/133774-undivided-legions-and-their-allegiances/#findComment-1540986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teethgrinder Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 In Slaves to Darkness there was an illustration showing Word Bearer and Night Lord shoulder icons and standards showing their devotion to Khorne, and the same for the Iron Warriors and Alpha Legion for Slaanesh. At this point in time, none of the Index Astartes or 2nd edition Chaos Codex background we now take for granted had been written for these Legions; their place in the 40K pantheon had not really been established. This might even have been the first description of them beyond a name. When Lost and the Damned came out a few years later, those four Legions were mentioned in the Death Guard and Thousand Sons army lists as the 'Chaos Space Marines' and 'Chaos Terminators' that would fight alongside the more dedicated forces, and over successive iterations of the game their particular brand of Chaos-worship has been better identified. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/133774-undivided-legions-and-their-allegiances/#findComment-1541171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 I hope this isn't breaking any rule, but I just checked my Slaves to Darkness and it states "One of the most active Chapters of Traitor Marines is the Iron Warriors Chapter. This Chapter is dedicated to Chaos in all of its Undivided Majesty and is based on the world of the Daemon Prince Perturabo. As they owe allegiance to no Chaos Power in particular, they will often join with Chaos Renegades regardless of the Chaos Power they follow" Therefore, even then, the IW were undivided, although this fluff is obviously extremely outdated as it describes the IW as a chapter and also says that they frequently ally with other renegades which is in direct contradiction with the fluff in the 3.5 codex that specifically states that they rarely ally with other Chaos forces out of paranoia. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/133774-undivided-legions-and-their-allegiances/#findComment-1542244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkagl Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 I don't know about you but I think Word Bearers are definitely Tzeentch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/133774-undivided-legions-and-their-allegiances/#findComment-1544557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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