davidren2401 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I know the Black Legion and all 4 Cult Legions were there. I know the Alpha Legion weren't as they were off fighting the Ultra Marines. But what of the Iron Warriors? Or the Night Lords or Word Bearers? Were they there at the siege or engauged on another mission for Horus at the time? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/134812-did-the-iron-warriors-fight-at-the-siege-of-terra/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khestra the Unbeheld Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Perturabo took a large chunk of the IWs with him to Terra to supervise the Siege. The rest of the Legion carved out a dozen worlds and turned them into fortresses. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/134812-did-the-iron-warriors-fight-at-the-siege-of-terra/#findComment-1552336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironloki Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 But what of the Iron Warriors? Or the Night Lords or Word Bearers? Were they there at the siege or engauged on another mission for Horus at the time? Night Lords were just going arround terrorising I believe. Word Bearers were used to distract the Ultramarines and drag/keep them further away from Terra. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/134812-did-the-iron-warriors-fight-at-the-siege-of-terra/#findComment-1552338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkApostle Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 But what of the Iron Warriors? Or the Night Lords or Word Bearers? Were they there at the siege or engauged on another mission for Horus at the time? Night Lords were just going arround terrorising I believe. Word Bearers were used to distract the Ultramarines and drag/keep them further away from Terra. The Word Bearers split in two halves. One half under Kor Phaeon smacked the smurfs at Calth to keep them tided up and the rest of the legion went with Lorgar to attack Terra. TDA Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/134812-did-the-iron-warriors-fight-at-the-siege-of-terra/#findComment-1552340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 826.M29 The Pacification of the Cheraut system. During a banquet honoring the pacification of the Cheraut system, Lord Princeps Ichabod Lethrai tells the tale of a conflict between the primarchs Konrad Curze and Rogal Dorn. Curze confides in Fulgrim, telling him of a vision in which the Emperor kills him and his brothers. Fulgrim in turn informs Rogal Dorn about Konrad's vision. Konrad Curze is confronted by Rogal Dorn who takes slight to the Emperor's name. After a brutal encounter, where Rogal Dorn is savagely wounded, Curze is exiled to his chambers while the council of Primarchs debate. While he's in his chambers, an Imperial assassin makes an attempt on Curze's life. Soon after, Konrad Curze makes a violent escape rather than face responsibility for his actions. Konrad takes his fleet to Nostramo and destroys the planet, this is the first step in a campaign of terror whence Curze eventually renounces the Emperor. The Emperor recalls Night Haunter to Earth to answer the charges, but the quest to bring the Night Haunter to justice is abandoned as the Horus Heresy unfolds. 012.M31 The Horus Heresy begins. After several months of hesitation, the Emperor orders seven legions of Marines to assault Istvaan V, their objective is to defeat Horus. Among them are the Iron Warriors, Night Lords, Word Bearers, Alpha Legion, but they defect to Horus's side. They fight alongside their brother rebels as Marine fights Marine in battles across the Galaxy. 013.M31 The Horus Heresy unfolds. Nearly half of the Space Marine legions turn on the Emperor and follow Horus. Unlike the other traitor legions, the Night lords doesn't side with any of the Chaos Gods, instead they use the forces of Chaos as tools in their terror campaigns. After the massacre of Salamander, Ravenguard and Iron Hand forces at Istvaan V, Horus sends Night Haunter and his Legion on a campaign of genocide against the Imperial strongholds of Heroldar and Thramas on the Eastern Fringes, thus protecting Horus's flank and delaying Dark Angels reinforcements. As for the Istvaan bit, the fluff is inconsistent. I wish some one could explain how the Night Lords were assigned as one of the seven Legions sent to Istavan V, after The Pacification of the Cheraut system. Seeing as it was Dorn who gave the Orders. My only thoughts are that Dorn was still under the influence of Horus some how.I fear that's a muck up on GW's part: ;)http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Talk:Isstvan_V Various sources of fluff, pre-Sabertooth, gave varying accounts as to who exactly was present at the Istvaan massacre. Some said that the seven legions consisted of the Emperor's Children, World Eaters, Death Guard, Iron Hands, Salamanders, Raven Guard, and Iron Warriors (Libra Hostorica). Other accounts suggest that it was the Night Lords, Alpha Warriors, Iron Warriors, Word Bearers, Iron Hands, Salamanders, and Raven Guard (Index Astartes Iron Warriors article). The Index Astartes Emperor's Children article states that the Emperor's Children were already on Istvaan 5. Now, the Sabertooth version says that the Emperor's Children, Sons of Horus, World Eaters, and Death Guard were already on Istvaan 5, and that the Iron Hands, Salamanders, Raven Guard, Iron Warriors, Alpha Legion, Night Lords, and Word Bearers were the legions sent against them. Comparing the two versions, in my opinion the Sabertooth version makes perfect sense. Why send 7 legions against only one legion, or two if the Emperor's Children were present? And if the Sons of Horus and the Emperor's Children were the only legions present on Istvaan 5, then Istvaan 5 may not have turned into a massacre, for in the face of the four supporting legions betrayal, the three loyalist legions could have simply broken through the Sons of Horus and Emperor's Children and linked up later to continue the fight. I think many people are far too critical of the Sabertooth fluff, and I have yet to figure out why. It seems the very fact that a piece of fluff was produced by Sabertooth automatically labels it as being dodgy at best, and heretical at worst. Much of the fluff present doesn't contradict anything that has come before, but merely adds to it. So please people, can we stick the question in hand without going Sabertooth bashing? In short, at the time of the Heresy the Night Lords were busy assaulting Imperial fortresses on the Eastern Fringes, delaying loyalist (Dark Angels) reinforcements. After the Heresy they ran amok across terran space and butchered everything within reach, before finally settling within the Eye of Terror. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/134812-did-the-iron-warriors-fight-at-the-siege-of-terra/#findComment-1552402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ju'kosian Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Sons of Horus/Luna wolves : Siege of Terra World eaters : Siege of Terra Emperor's children : Siege of Terra Deathguard : Siege of Terra Thousand sons : Siege of Terra Word bearers : split in 2 ; one part Siege of Terra under Lorgar himself, the other part at Calth under Kor Phaeron attacking the Ultramarines. Iron warriors : split in 2, Siege of Terra altough I don't know where the other part of the legion was, I think at Tallarn fighting one of the greatest Tank battle's in history. Alpha legion : Original supposed to hold off White Scars and Space wolves, Russ 'offered' him and his legion to fend of the Alpha legion so Khan and the Scars could make it to Terra. Night Lords : Sent to Tsalgaluga (or somethingl like that) and were terrorising some worlds.. Horus send them there to fend off the Dark angels if they would go to Terra.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/134812-did-the-iron-warriors-fight-at-the-siege-of-terra/#findComment-1552514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkApostle Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Wait a second, wasn't the Scars already at Terra Ju'kosian? :P TDA Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/134812-did-the-iron-warriors-fight-at-the-siege-of-terra/#findComment-1552608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 According to the HH ART BOOKS, AL's attacked SW and WS fleets SPOILER delaying them from getting to Terra in force. WS got the message from Dorn to leave now no matter what happens to the SW, WS had to leave Russ and sons alone to fight the AL to make it to Terra. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/134812-did-the-iron-warriors-fight-at-the-siege-of-terra/#findComment-1552620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ju'kosian Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 What Lord Ragnarok said ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/134812-did-the-iron-warriors-fight-at-the-siege-of-terra/#findComment-1553584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 Not only did the Iron Warriors fight at the siege of Terra, but it was Perturabo who planned the actual breaching of the Imperial Palace, and the Legio Mortis titans that finally created the breach were directly under his control. Furthermore, the Iron Warriors destroyed the Imperial Fists fortress monastery on Terra, leaving them with pretty much just the Phalanx. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/134812-did-the-iron-warriors-fight-at-the-siege-of-terra/#findComment-1555091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother Hastatus Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 The IW were pretty important at the siege, being one of the two best siege expert legions pre-heresy. Without Perturabo's planning the siege would have been even harder for the traitors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/134812-did-the-iron-warriors-fight-at-the-siege-of-terra/#findComment-1555215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord arkon Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 The IW did fight in the Siege of Terra along with their primarch. They supervised the destruction of the palace's walls. However not all the legion was there some were returning from the Warmaster's orders namely engaging the imperial fists (failed) and securing Horus' flank (achieved) The Night Lords did not fight at the Siege at all, they were going on a genocide along Horus' flank with their Primarch until his assasination. The Word bearers in part were at the Siege with their primarch. The rest were engaging the Ultramines at Calth. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/134812-did-the-iron-warriors-fight-at-the-siege-of-terra/#findComment-1570123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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