sangnius40k Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 When I first started 40k, I bought a few Chaos kits, but then changed ways and collected SM. Now, I'm currently working on my SM but once I'm done, I'm considering starting up Chaos again. This time, however, I wish to use an army other than the Black Legion. I find the Emperor's Children and the Thousand Sons to be interesting forces, but I wanted to try out one that worshiped the Ruinous Powers as a whole instead of focusing on one God. I suppose it depends on my personal preference and playing style. Any suggestions? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136809-thinking-of-starting-chaos/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 What about the Black Legion, or a warband of your own creation? It should let you field units of each god under the fluff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136809-thinking-of-starting-chaos/#findComment-1577146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sangnius40k Posted May 22, 2008 Author Share Posted May 22, 2008 I understand the Black Legion's versatility and Godly combinations, but I don't like their color scheme all too much. I guess I like things a bit more colorful. I've always liked the Night Lords, as they have very cool iconography and their stealth-abilities are intriguing. Iron Warriors are cool, in the fact they are siege oriented, but I don't care for their metallic colors either. I like the Alpha Legion's colors and their infiltrating habits are cool as well. I'm used to playing somewhat defensively, having a shooty army with a good bit of counter-assault and deepstriking units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136809-thinking-of-starting-chaos/#findComment-1577156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tfcdogbert Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 Might i advise playing something different? Play an assault orientated army, play world eaters or night lords, or an assaulty slaanesh, a completely different force, itll be funner than just doing the same army but with spikes, make it as radically different as you can. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136809-thinking-of-starting-chaos/#findComment-1577163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sangnius40k Posted May 22, 2008 Author Share Posted May 22, 2008 Well, I was thinking about doing something like that. Since I'm so used to one kind of style, I'm curious about trying something different. I mean, If I made a Chaos army with the same kind of style in mind as playing SM, they'd be practically the same, just with Chaosy looks. Well, I really like the Night Lords and Alphas... but Slaanesh Marines have awesome color schemes! Egads! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136809-thinking-of-starting-chaos/#findComment-1577168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tfcdogbert Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 Egads indeed :P, im actually regretting not chosing night lords as my legion rather than starting my own, as i really like them and their fluff, but i didnt know anything about them at the start, so i did my own thing, and nothing really looks like them on the table top when done well. Â But slaanesh does look awesome and do play well, may i propose a mix :). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136809-thinking-of-starting-chaos/#findComment-1577187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sangnius40k Posted May 22, 2008 Author Share Posted May 22, 2008 I know of their fondness of Raptors, but what other kinds of units would they field? I'm looking forward to using a Defiler, and possibly the Night Lords Hero model. Would their Chaos Marine squads be equipped for assault such as Raptors? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136809-thinking-of-starting-chaos/#findComment-1577195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khestra the Unbeheld Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 There's always the Word Bearers. Colorful, dogmatic, zealots, worships the Chaos pantheon, open to just about everything you could ever want in the FOC, even daemons, Dark Apostle-converted Chaplains even if they don't have rules anymore, doesn't mind cult troops, doesn't get stereotyped for roles. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136809-thinking-of-starting-chaos/#findComment-1577204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sangnius40k Posted May 22, 2008 Author Share Posted May 22, 2008 Maybe, but their color scheme doesn't thrill me. Plus I already have some Blood Angels; I'd like to have a different colored army. I like how Alpha Legion plays, with their "attack from all sides" thing going on. Quite like what I do with deepstriking behind enemy lines while taking out their support from shooty models in my main force. But I want to try a newer approach, with some assault units supported by two or three shooty units and vehicles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136809-thinking-of-starting-chaos/#findComment-1577211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Donute Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 I personally think an assaulty slaanesh army or alpha would be cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136809-thinking-of-starting-chaos/#findComment-1577259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 Well I would say do NL's since whether you realize it or not you've mentioned them in 3 of your 4 posts. NL's would play pretty differently to your gunline style army. And yes their csm squads would pretty much be equiped for assault. the csm's would probably be in rinos b/c NL's are a fast attack kind of army. You could certainly use defilers b/c nothing spreads terror like a machine that lobs giant shells around and cuts people in half with giant claws. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136809-thinking-of-starting-chaos/#findComment-1577276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sangnius40k Posted May 23, 2008 Author Share Posted May 23, 2008 Oooh, it seems I have! Hmmm... Either an assaulty Night Lords army or an assaulty Emperor's Children army... It's a tough choice, but I'm leaning towards NLs. Now I just have to practice those lightning bolts! Thanks for the suggestions, guys. I'll try to get the new CSM Codex soon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136809-thinking-of-starting-chaos/#findComment-1577321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 i think you should make your own warband. because the BL are the only chaos legion to worship all chaos Gods other than word bearers. the IW, NL, AL don't really worship chaos. they merely use it as a tool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136809-thinking-of-starting-chaos/#findComment-1577399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hally Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 An assaulty NL army is very awesome, and if you need any help I'm sure Brother Nihm will be glad to help you out :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136809-thinking-of-starting-chaos/#findComment-1577451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 I know of their fondness of Raptors, but what other kinds of units would they field? I'm looking forward to using a Defiler, and possibly the Night Lords Hero model. Would their Chaos Marine squads be equipped for assault such as Raptors?That is the most common trend, that and Rhinos as mentioned above.  Oooh, it seems I have! Hmmm... Either an assaulty Night Lords army or an assaulty Emperor's Children army... It's a tough choice, but I'm leaning towards NLs. Now I just have to practice those lightning bolts! Thanks for the suggestions, guys. I'll try to get the new CSM Codex soon.Lightning bolts are fairly easy, check out this tutorial (link). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136809-thinking-of-starting-chaos/#findComment-1577525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sangnius40k Posted May 23, 2008 Author Share Posted May 23, 2008 I'l probably take two CSM squads, one armed for CC deploying in a Rhino, and the other armed for shooty roles to support the Rhino squad and Raptors. I'm not sure how fluffy a Defiler would be in a Night Lords army, but I want to use one real badly! And thanks for posting that lightning bolt tutorial; It's gonna help me a lot! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136809-thinking-of-starting-chaos/#findComment-1577742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apparition Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Fast attack and mobility is important to nightlords but fear is their greatest weapon. In my opinion Raptors dont need to feature so heavily even in a fluffy force as long as your army composition keeps with themes of fear, mobility and keeping your enemy second guessing. Don't be afraid to use models from heavy support or elite section like defilers or terminators that you would imagine inducing terror in your enemies. Terminators are especially fitting actually because thedeep strike ability gives them an element of mobility whilst keeping your enemy worrying where they will strike. The idea of mini dreds appearing out of nowhere to rip you to pieces is pretty jittery. The defiler i personally think is very fitting for nightlords as it can fleet and looks very scary. When those battle cannon shells start raining down you can imagine it will be enough to unnerve most soldiers. Chosen i think are also quite a nice choice for nightlords and can provide you with some nice anti tank teams. Just dont take any demons except maybe furies and if using cult troops try modelling them up or coming up with fluff why they are with nightlords. Example you could decide to have one unit of berzerkers but model them up as nightlords assault veterans rather than devotees to khorne. Just my thoughts Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136809-thinking-of-starting-chaos/#findComment-1577913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 I'l probably take two CSM squads, one armed for CC deploying in a Rhino, and the other armed for shooty roles to support the Rhino squad and Raptors. I'm not sure how fluffy a Defiler would be - I wouldn't suggest arming a csm squad for a shooty role unless you mean 2 plasma guns. Having 10 csm's hang out in the back in order to shoot 1 ML is a great waste of pts. A defiler would be fine in a fluffy NL's army for the reasons Apparition and I mentioned. Glad to see there are new chaos players still concerned about fluff. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136809-thinking-of-starting-chaos/#findComment-1577972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sangnius40k Posted May 24, 2008 Author Share Posted May 24, 2008 I could make a squad or two Slaanesh devoted, could I not? I can make up a story of how some Night Lords found pleasure and comptemt in using fear to disturb their victims, and thanked Slaanesh for the joy they recieved in doing it. I found a Night Lords gallery on the internet that had Slannesh figures in it, so I suppose it'd be alright. However, if I did, would it still be ok to use Sonic weaponry, or is that an Emperor's Children exclusive? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136809-thinking-of-starting-chaos/#findComment-1578265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 There are no more legion specific rules of any kind so any noise marines can take sonic guns. That said, any cult in a Night Lords army would be a pretty big deviation from the fluff as from what I've read they despise all faith and look down on Chaos god worshiping CSMs almost as much as they look down on loyalists. That said, an allied squad of Emperor's Children or something might make a bit of sense as the Night Lords might think that they are manipulating the EC to fight for them (fits with the contempt) and the EC just enjoy the opportunity to attack defenseless innocents (a NL specialty). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136809-thinking-of-starting-chaos/#findComment-1578401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosmarine234 Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 When I first started 40k, I bought a few Chaos kits, but then changed ways and collected SM. Now, I'm currently working on my SM but once I'm done, I'm considering starting up Chaos again. This time, however, I wish to use an army other than the Black Legion. I find the Emperor's Children and the Thousand Sons to be interesting forces, but I wanted to try out one that worshiped the Ruinous Powers as a whole instead of focusing on one God. I suppose it depends on my personal preference and playing style. Any suggestions? Â what about Iron warriors? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136809-thinking-of-starting-chaos/#findComment-1578757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sangnius40k Posted May 24, 2008 Author Share Posted May 24, 2008 That said, an allied squad of Emperor's Children or something might make a bit of sense as the Night Lords might think that they are manipulating the EC to fight for them (fits with the contempt) and the EC just enjoy the opportunity to attack defenseless innocents (a NL specialty). Hmmm... Dammit, my liking for both NLs and ECs are almost equal! The desicions are killing me... I understand how unfluffy a Slaanesh cult in a NL army would be, but my personal tastes in both of the legions are overwhelming. I have no idea how I should deal with this dillema. I could go with your suggestion, but doing so might cause a few "looks" from other Chaos players. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136809-thinking-of-starting-chaos/#findComment-1578771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
themax Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 Do what I'm doing, say, screw the created chapters with their paint schemes and build an army, that with some changes in army list, and models, can create either a Night Lords or Slaanesh army. Just because you like the Night Lords concept, and fluff doesn't mean that you have to paint it like Games-Workshop decided to paint their Night Lords. The same can be said for Emperor's Children. Â That being said, I would like to ask the opinion of the members of this board. You say that defilers would fit in a NL army. I was wondering if you think that vindicators would fit just as well. I mean, I have always pictured night lords as predominately attacking cities, and doing Urban fighting. And in the confines of a city, I can not think of anything more terrifying for civilians than a siege tank which is capable of destroying entire buildings with a single shell. That, and I picture a vindi as needing to be much more of a mobile tank than others, such as predators which can just sit in the back shooting their autocannons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136809-thinking-of-starting-chaos/#findComment-1579697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sangnius40k Posted May 25, 2008 Author Share Posted May 25, 2008 Sure, I can see Vindis hanging back and softening up a city before or while Raptors and CSM swarm in and cause mayhem. After some intense thought, I've decided to use a Slaanesh-devoted army, so I'm thinking Emperor's Children or The Flawless Host. (to be a bit different) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136809-thinking-of-starting-chaos/#findComment-1579704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loketh Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 Well, if you're going to do Slaanesh, then I think you should definitely do Flawless Host instead of Emperor's Children. More colorful color scheme, and I just like the purple and pink better than the black and pink. But really, it's all up to you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136809-thinking-of-starting-chaos/#findComment-1582685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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