Darkapostle222 Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 I'm starting a Chaos army but I need help with two things: Color Scheme Cursed Crozius rules If you would post your schemes with a picture it would be a big help :lol: ! As for the Crozius, do I count it as a Daemon Weapon or as a regular Power Weapon Also, could I count it as an actual Crozius? Thank you to all that respond!! :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136886-word-bearers-color-scheme-and-crozius-rules/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkApostle Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 http://oz.games-workshop.com/games/40k/cha.../showcase/3.htm http://uk.games-workshop.com/chaosspacemarines/wordbearers/ http://uk.games-workshop.com/chaosspacemar...inator-lords/6/ http://uk.games-workshop.com/chaosspacemar...-terminators/1/ Some simple official things for the Word Bearers. As for the Accursed Crozius, there are no official rules for it anymore. Most people seems to play it either as a Daemon Weapon, or a Power Weapon / Mark of Tzeentch combo for their Lords, also there's been quite a few proxyings but useing a Sorceror with a Force Weapon to represent it instead. In the end it's all your choise on how to represent it nowadays. TDA Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136886-word-bearers-color-scheme-and-crozius-rules/#findComment-1578184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 Egh, I'm never quite sure where they scrounged up that nasty golden poo color for the trim. So far as I knew it was only silver or black trim on deep red armor, with pre-heresy being all black. Here is my Dark Apostle, still wearing his black armor to mock the loyalist chaplains: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/veritas117/100_2859.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/veritas117/100_2860.jpg This is my other Chaos Lord, who, while not the Apostle, is one of those secondary leaders from the book "Dark Apostle." My girl has it now so I don't have it to reference; suffice to say he's the one that makes war, and makes it good. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/veritas117/My%20Best%20Models/100_3316.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/veritas117/My%20Best%20Models/100_3320.jpg So far as a cursed crozius and warp shield, I always give my Dark Apostle a tzeentchian daemon weapon. It's perfect, as it fulfills all previous rules for it, plus he gets extra attacks and doesn't have to take mastery tests. The only thing you're missing out on is the demagogue ability (which I sorely miss). Otherwise follow as TDA says above. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136886-word-bearers-color-scheme-and-crozius-rules/#findComment-1578279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkApostle Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 Egh, I'm never quite sure where they scrounged up that nasty golden poo color for the trim. So far as I knew it was only silver or black trim on deep red armor, with pre-heresy being all black. Well, according to their IA the Dark Apostle would have their trims in gold. But then again that supposely "golden" color of the Shaffer mini's looks more brown to me. :pinch: According to the same IA by the way the trims are said to be silver but shown as more of a tin bitz like color. Some of the trims on the Dark Apostle shown is very much like black though. TDA Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136886-word-bearers-color-scheme-and-crozius-rules/#findComment-1578426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 Oh right, I totally forgot about that article. I think because they are doing NMM for their trim in those pics it really doesn't look good. It's definitely not gold. Since the Word Bearers are my girlfriend's army, she very much wanted either red and black or red and silver. Since all three are technically in the fluff (as well as black armor + silver trim for apostles) it works. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136886-word-bearers-color-scheme-and-crozius-rules/#findComment-1578738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkApostle Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 Oh right, I totally forgot about that article. I think because they are doing NMM for their trim in those pics it really doesn't look good. It's definitely not gold. Since the Word Bearers are my girlfriend's army, she very much wanted either red and black or red and silver. Since all three are technically in the fluff (as well as black armor + silver trim for apostles) it works. Well, there's no "official" mentioning of the Apostles having black armor though ^_^ TDA Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136886-word-bearers-color-scheme-and-crozius-rules/#findComment-1578831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrupted Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 For my Dark Apostle, I use the chaos sorcerer rules w/ the MoT. The crozius gets to be a force weapon, seems unique enough for me. He gets his 4+ inv. like hes suppose to. To boot I give him Gifts of Chaos because it seems appropriate, in a pinch throw in warp time as a corrupted litanies of hate Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136886-word-bearers-color-scheme-and-crozius-rules/#findComment-1582386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaptain Von Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Completely off topic: the armour on that Terminator looks fantastic. My WBs are feeling quite inadequate. <_< Back on topic: from where I stand, a Dark Apostle is just the leader of a Word Bearers army. There's nothing to stop him being a Daemon Prince (my last one was, complete with Crozius the size of a Terminator), a Sorcerer or a Chaos Lord. I would go for the Daemon Weapon on the Chaos Lord, though (although why would you not?), since the Crozius is meant to be daemonically endowed. Force Weapons work at a pinch. I do feel sorry for the Princes, but not terribly... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136886-word-bearers-color-scheme-and-crozius-rules/#findComment-1582412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playa Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 Hey, the armour on that Terminator looks fantastic Agree. It's a lot more compelling than i would have suspected from a "they're red and black" description. Well done. I would go for the Daemon Weapon on the Chaos Lord, though (although why would you not?) Perils comes to mind. Then, compare DW costs to a Power weapon and Melta Bombs - that's what mine counts-as. the Crozius is meant to be daemonically endowed. Force Weapons work at a pinch. I do feel sorry for the Princes As important to me is the gnashing of teeth from Loyalists when you use a corrupted Chaplain model. Princes are supposed to have a ccw, so a Chaplain's Crozius seems the perfect choice. ;- ) At DP Strength, that boomstick hits just as hard as a 3rd ed Crozius. Force Weapons are two-handed, so I just cost my Crozius as a Power Maul with integral MB Pez dispenser. There's not a long WYSIWYG explanation needed for opponents that way . . . Playa Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/136886-word-bearers-color-scheme-and-crozius-rules/#findComment-1582642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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