Bionic Iron Warriors

[northoceanbeach]

Anyone know of a good way to use bionics to represent plague marine iron warriors? I've never been interested in bionics before and don't have too many bitz. Just looking for some sources out there or ideas others used to represent plague marines. Thanks.

[sexiest_hero]

Plague marine Iron warriors? Although it does sound cool I'm not quit sure it would work, It'll be like say: Noise marine Khorn Berserkers or Alfa Leigon Night lords, Or for Loyalist Crimson fist Ultra marines. Cool sounding Idea though.

[TheDarkApostle]

Plague marine Iron warriors? Although it does sound cool I'm not quit sure it would work, It'll be like say: Noise marine Khorn Berserkers or Alfa Leigon Night lords, Or for Loyalist Crimson fist Ultra marines. Cool sounding Idea though.

Plague Marines are not a Legion name but a unit type name, therefor your later statements are wrong since Noise Marine Khorne Berserkers are two unit types stuck together and Alpha Legion Night Lords are two Legion names stuck together, same with Crimson Fists and Ultramarines 'cept for them beign Chapter names instead of Legion names. Plague Marine Iron Warriors are a unit type name with a Legion name and thus very different.

 

And on topic, Northoceanbeach, IMO it should work. Might try to shoot a PM to Insane Psychopath or someone though as he's more of a expert on Iron Warriors then me :)

 

TDA

[Widowmaker]

I have to disagree with sexiest_hero and say the plague marine Iron warriors would totally be possible. I don't think there's anything to say you can't have a squad from the Iron Warriors (a Legion) so dedicated to the Plague lord that they've become Plague Marines (a squad type available to legions).

 

The examples he gave of "Alfa Leigon Night lords, Or for Loyalist Crimson fist Ultra marines" don't apply cos they're each seperate legions (or chapters). You're wanting plague marine (type) Iron Warriors (legion), not Death Guard Iron Warriors.

 

Similarly, "Noise marine Khorn Berserkers" ain't what you're doing either - they're each a type of available squad, again not a squad available to a particular legion.

 

Anyways....

 

Anyone know of a good way to use bionics to represent plague marine iron warriors? I've never been interested in bionics before and don't have too many bitz. Just looking for some sources out there or ideas others used to represent plague marines. Thanks.

 

Depends if you want to throw cash at the problem or use a DIY solution.

 

The Iron Hands bitz are still available from mail order. They come with a (loyalist) tac squad which may or may not be necessary, but you can't beat the bitz.

 

Also, the Iron Warriors bitz will give you extra chest playes to mix in.

 

If you'd prefer a DIY sort, there are lots of examples (and a few tutorials) of Bionics on the site - use searchy on the PC&A. Plastic tubing is your friend.

 

Either way, I'd say build up your iron warriors as usual, then use GS to add the plague effects over the rest of the armour - standard fare - pustules, cracks and so on.

 

Then when you paint, make sure you add a lot of rust over the bionics.

 

That'd be my fix at least.

 

Course saying that, I'm not sure it's the best fix for plague marines - even ones from the Iron Warriors. I always saw them as being so tough they shrug off wounds, and if they can't shrug it off, they just let it fester or grow some ridiculous tentacle thing to compensate. So perhaps normal armour with water effects coloured to look like slime or GS tentacles might be more nurgley.

 

But that's just my 2 cents.

 

:)

 

Cheers

 

Widowmaker

[sexiest_hero]

LOL I guess your right. The point i was trying to make is that Plage marines, mostly only belong to the Deathguard. with the black leigion Have only found the secret to make a very few, it states in the fluff. Being a plague guard means you've given yourself to Grand-pa Nurgle And place his Ideal over the Ideal of the IL. I can see the IL warband being consumed by a Nurgle spawned plague, replasing fleash with metal to try and Preserve themselves, As i don't see any of the Overly proud IW wanting to become Pague marines, So it is doable. good luck!

[Rain]

That whole only the BL and DG being able to make plague marines bit is just something JJ and AC pulled out of their rectums just like how "coruscating energy plays across the armor of the Night Lords" and has no real bearing on any pre-existing fluff or even the recent HH fluff. Plague Marines are created whenever a marine is infected with one of Nurgle's incurable diseases and trades survival for loyalty becoming a festering and bloated servant of the plague god who is himself blessed/cursed to never die from his contagions.

 

Anyway, the Iron Warriors generally do not worship any cults other than occasionally succumbing to Khorne worship because of how much they enjoy killing those they deem inferior (which is pretty much everyone). That said, the Legio Mortis is mostly Nurgle aligned and yet they fight with the Iron Warriors all the time so one would imagine that maybe some plague marines would come along as well, but it has never been mentioned.

 

As for using bionics to count as PM's I would recommend either using plasticard to create reinforced armor chestplates and have "heavy armor marines" or just take "allied Death Guard" instead as bionics are so ubiquitous in an Iron Warriors army that it could get quite confusing on what's a PM and whats just a nifty marine.

[teh_perfesser]

as bionics are so ubiquitous in an Iron Warriors army that it could get quite confusing on what's a PM and whats just a nifty marine.

As long as only the counts as PM marines have bionics it would be fine. Either way as long as it's extreme enough it'll be clear.

[Playa]

Hey,

 

As long as only the counts as PM marines have bionics it would be fine.

 

I'd advise turning the idea upside down. Since bionics help define the IW, convert the PMs to stand out -

 

* File the toes to simulate the classic PM 'cloven hoof' look - only on the PM models.

* Use single Rhino/Unicorn/ Pickelhaube horns or spikes - only on the PM helmets.

* Use those bare 'respirator' heads *only* for the PM squad leaders, etc.

 

Please do NOT do the beer belly/ tentacle slather so many Youngbloods use.

 

If anything else is needed, black and green tiger stripes should be enough of a visual cue.

Remember: they're still Iron Warriors - they just got religion . . .

 

Good luck, and have fun!

 

 

Playa

[chillin]

[quote name='Playa' date='May 29 2008, 03:59 AM' post='1582631

 

Please do NOT do the beer belly/ tentacle slather so many Youngbloods use.

 

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ughhh, tentacles

[Loketh]

If you're talking strictly "counts as" for a squad with no religious preferences whatsoever, the Iron Hands squad models are for you.

 

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/...atId=cat1150124 (they're at the bottom of the page)

 

 

EDIT: On another note, if you want to use the real PM models, then that's just fine. Can't you imagine the Iron Warriors having the Plague Marines spread disease in a prolonged seige to weaken the defenders? I sure can, and I love it.

[Iron-Daemon Forge]

Might try to shoot a PM to Insane Psychopath or someone though as he's more of a expert on Iron Warriors then me

 

Speak my name & I will come forth :P

 

Iron Warriors & good old bionics. More so plague marines "count as" tough IW with bionics.

 

Some the thing I do to convert bionics is to get your noraml Plastic Rod from any good hobby/art store. Alway best to get the one with the wire inside so you can get

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v473/ironwarriors/insane%20psycopath/Iron%20Warriors/Sarg.jpg

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v473/ironwarriors/insane%20psycopath/Iron%20Warriors/Sarg2.jpg

 

I also tend to use a lot other bits like the little camera from the Imperial Marine helmet cut that up & add it onto my Iron Warrios along with the gun scope.

 

As other have said Iron Hands bits as well as Servitos from the Techmarine lot.

 

IP

[chillin]

There are necromunda bits that are bionic arms with saw blades etc on them. I didn't know if you can still bits order them. If not they will be pretty hard to find.

[HellKaraS]

There are necromunda bits that are bionic arms with saw blades etc on them.

 

Assuming models were made for Necromunda Pit Slaves, these would have the nice bionic parts Chillin speaks of

[Void Stalkers]

you could simply cut off the hand or whole gauntlet of a plauge marine, then cut down a bolter to glue to the stump, a little pieces of plastic and icons to fill it out and Presto!! a gun arm.

[the jeske]

Can't you imagine the Iron Warriors having the Plague Marines spread disease in a prolonged seige to weaken the defenders?

well history teaches us that unless the IW would start lobbing the PM at the defender walls the first to fall to sicknes would be the guys doing the siege . specially in a prolonged one.

 

from a sculptor point of view it would be a very interesting thing to do . I advice using a lot of wire of different shape and size.

[Loketh]

Can't you imagine the Iron Warriors having the Plague Marines spread disease in a prolonged seige to weaken the defenders?

well history teaches us that unless the IW would start lobbing the PM at the defender walls the first to fall to sicknes would be the guys doing the siege . specially in a prolonged one.

 

 

 

Just got a flashback from Monty Python and the Holy Grail here!

 

Mooooooo!

 

By spreading disease I imagined that the PMs would be shooting their viruses down from orbit (from their own little cruiser, naturally), and would have a cordoned off section of camp when the army makes planetfall.

[khairney]

i start by making my bionics with a core a made from plastic tubing, add some .70 guage guitar string, different sived plastic tubing, and some half stripped insulated wire ( so theres still some insulation at the top or bottom of the wire to make it look like pistons) hey presto, moderatly easy bionic! every so often, i use another peice of wire or guitar string to make a exposed cable, jutting out slightly from the rest of the limb, just to makde it look less pristine.

 

i love the idea of IW PMs, i hav been trying to paint up a squad myself for a while now. i can imagine that a army that spends the majority of time in trenches would get feaky with the thought of papa nurgle after watchin indentured troops or slaves being buggered over by the diseases associated with trench warfare. and who is to say that the defenders of a citadel wouldnt stoop so low as to use biological weapons on the IWs, who would have no choice but to turn to papa n, or die?

[Loketh]

Besides bionics, how about replacing their right forearms with bolters? Just snip the arm at the elbow and cut off the firing mechanism of the bolter and glue it on. That's what I do for my Iron Warrior "Plague Marines" to make them stand out from the average mech marine.

[davethebear]

If you're talking strictly "counts as" for a squad with no religious preferences whatsoever, the Iron Hands squad models are for you.

 

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/...atId=cat1150124 (they're at the bottom of the page)

 

 

EDIT: On another note, if you want to use the real PM models, then that's just fine. Can't you imagine the Iron Warriors having the Plague Marines spread disease in a prolonged seige to weaken the defenders? I sure can, and I love it.

 

this makes alot of sense, in the real world middle ages siege attackers used to chuck dead animals over walls of castles to spread disease.

iron warriors-siege.

plague marines-disease.

perfect match.

[DuskRaider]

I'd do bionic arms/legs for FNP, and perhaps bulk up their armor, to show the added toughness. I'd avoid any actual signs of disease or decay, as this would, essentially, go against the Iron Warriors' motto: "Iron Within, Iron Without".

 

I could see Death Guard and Iron Warriors aligned at times, as their tactics are both similar, and at the same time complimentary.