Legion Colors

[Zeller]

I was at the 'local' gaming store few days ago setting up my Word Bearers when along comes this Black Templar player. He sees the one squad of World Eaters I had in the whole force, bare in mind I use 3 cult legions in addition to the WB, and says, "You play World Eaters." I was baffled, confused, and conflabbergastergated! :rolleyes:

 

Later that day I was considering ways to prevent my legion from ever being mis-identified again. New paint scheme? No. Demon orgy? No. Word Bearer iconography spammed across my army? Yes. ;)

 

Your thoughts, stories, or recommendations? Mostly stories?

 

*pinches bridge of nose*

[retlaw83]

Well, since beginning my time playing 40k, I've played a DIY Chaos force called the Dreadmarines. Blue greeves and shoulder pads, and a very dark red, almost purple, for the rest of the armor.

 

People have asked me at different times if I played Thousand Sons, World Eaters and Iron Warriors. So a new paint job might not do the trick; people tend to project "paint by numbers" schemes onto models when they see new armies.

[chillin]

As long as you have brzrkrs (plague marines, whatever) in your army, you are going to have it misidentified. As classic and fluffy WB's army's don't have brzrkrs etc. You can spam WB's icons across your brzrkrs all you want, it won't change a thing.

 

Last time I was in a GW, I had a "NL" player trying desperately to explain why his "NL's" force was full of lash sorc's and noise marines but had no raptors or bikes. I didn't say a thing, just shook my head and continued talking to the IG player he was playing.

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maybe take off the tell-tell "bunny ears" heads off the brzrkrs and replace w/ reg csm helmits. so they look more like "WB's vets" with FC.

[Zeller]

I believe you misunderstood what I said.

 

My legion is WB.

I have no demons.

I have 1 squad of WE, 1 sqaud of TS, and 1 squad of DG all included among my 30 regular unmarked WB marines. They are not WB with marks. They are indeed 3 individual cult-specific squads from their respective legions as hire-ons if you will.

 

As you may surmise, I don't play a fluffy WB list and I never will. Frankly I don't see the issue either flufflistically or classically for one of the founding traitor legions to accept the aid of another legion, with a grain of salt at least.

 

I apologize for my hostile tone. My WB will fall from grace in favor of another.

[chillin]

Didn't think you took a hostile tone.

I did misunderstand bout the brzrkrs, PM etc in your army.

I think since you are using cult troops as the actual cult legion "hire on's" you will have people misidentify your army from time to time, esp as WE's b/c they see a mostly red army then notice the brzrkrs and assume it's a WE army.

[Khestra the Unbeheld]

I was at the 'local' gaming store few days ago setting up my Word Bearers when along comes this Black Templar player. He sees the one squad of World Eaters I had in the whole force, bare in mind I use 3 cult legions in addition to the WB, and says, "You play World Eaters." I was baffled, confused, and conflabbergastergated! :sweat:

 

*pinches bridge of nose*

 

That's cute. Next time you see his army, ask him if he's playing Raven Guard. :sweat:

[Alkana]

I was at the 'local' gaming store few days ago setting up my Word Bearers when along comes this Black Templar player. He sees the one squad of World Eaters I had in the whole force, bare in mind I use 3 cult legions in addition to the WB, and says, "You play World Eaters." I was baffled, confused, and conflabbergastergated! :sweat:

 

Later that day I was considering ways to prevent my legion from ever being mis-identified again. New paint scheme? No. Demon orgy? No. Word Bearer iconography spammed across my army? Yes. :sweat:

 

Your thoughts, stories, or recommendations? Mostly stories?

 

*pinches bridge of nose*

 

 

You think that's bad? When I first started going to the nearby hobby store, people thought my loyalist marines were chaos. Why? 'Cause the main color was black. I also used allied grey knights in my army. They were red. People thought I played BL with WE. After that I started a chaos army.

 

I think that some people will always think you play a different army if they see one unit that another legion/chapter/warband is famous for using. If your army is red and uses jump packs, people will think you play blood angels. If they're green, people will think you play Dark Angels. It's just the way some people are and there's no point in changing your army so someone doesn't mistake it for another. Just tell people that you play WB and eventually they'll realize that you play WB and the problem will be fixed.

[Lady_Canoness]

That is indeed a common problem for any army I think - Eldar have the same issues (ooooh! is that Ulthwé?)

 

Most people who asked are just noobs who need a good wake-up call when it comes to identifying their opponents.

 

As Black Legion, I don't run into that problem too much (though one blockhead thought I was playing Iron Warriors for some reason [no sir, that is the eye of horus on EVERY SINGLE DUDE AND TANK!!!]

 

Legion icons are brilliant to add to your units, and especially tanks. Custom banners are good, dudes with Chaos Robes (also known a 'yoink' from Dark Angels sprue) are very effective, as are very specialised transports and champions.

 

I have a total of two undivided Black Legion CSM squads. Two. So how do I avoid the noob-fire? Everyone who is cult (aside from the thousand sons) have black uniforms with select areas of their armour in cult colours or special additions (my Slaaneshi Marines sport spiked Mohawks atop their helmets) as well as stylised Eye of Horus icons.

 

Little things, but it make a world of difference in the army's appearance.

 

-L_C

[Rain]

I get asked what legion I play all the time even though my entire army is dark silver and my tanks all have hazard stripes. I assume this just has to do with people not knowing what Iron Warriors look like, especially since I have never ever seen another Iron Warrior player at my local store.

 

As to having cult troops in undivided legions, I myself field a unit of khorne berzerkers, but I do not think that is a contradiction of fluff as they were allowed in the IA and were actually written about in Storm of Iron. Even if that were not the case, the current Chaos list just isn't very good if you don't take some marked units as it was designed assuming players would utilize all options, I mean Tau players don't forgo battlesuits because of fluff so why should we be constrained in our choices?

[Muskie]

No one mistakes the Diseased Sons. My advise play Nurgle, it never gets mistaken for Salamanders or Mantis Legion, or any other namby pamby green guys.

[Deneris]

The joys of a Thousand Sons army- Once players see the headgear and the blue armor, they know what to expect. The confusion comes when I put down Non-Rubric squads with the headgear ;).

 

My buddy, who also plays Chaos, has the misidentification problem with his force- They're plague marines, but his colors (DIY Renegades) are (tarnished) copper and white. People keep asking him what loyalist chapter he is despite the presence of horns and spikes...

[DARKTROOPER]

People make fun of my Nightlords because they have bat wings on their heads...it makes me sad...very sad...

[Zeller]

Don't feel bad Darktrooper. Their ignorance will be the cause of their own demise. One day they think they are going to be safe only to have a raging Night Lord marine burst from the window and pistol whip them.

[Dammeron]

Well, If GW published a half way adequate army list for both Word Bearers and World Eaters, then presumably there'd be enough differentiation between the two armies for people to be able to tell them apart. As it is, they may as well be the same...

[Lion in the Stars]

without seeing your paint scheme, it's tough to give ideas, but try going over your WBs armor with a wash of P3 Sanguine Base to help darken the red, and brighten the red of your zerkers (I like using GW Foundation Red for a base, and then Vallejo Model color bermellon red and scarlet for the highlights. It pops spectacularly!)

 

That's my initial recommendation, anyway.

 

If you really want to confuse your opponent, you could add an aspiring champion in the pre-heresy blue&white... an opponent of mine did that for all his chosen and champs, looks really sharp.

[Marshal Rohr]

I was at the 'local' gaming store few days ago setting up my Word Bearers when along comes this Black Templar player. He sees the one squad of World Eaters I had in the whole force, bare in mind I use 3 cult legions in addition to the WB, and says, "You play World Eaters." I was baffled, confused, and conflabbergastergated! :)

 

*pinches bridge of nose*

 

That's cute. Next time you see his army, ask him if he's playing Raven Guard. ^_^

 

 

...Not Cool

 

 

I had a player mistake my Temps for Black Legion once because of my excessive use of gold bling...

[Kaptain Von]

I was at the 'local' gaming store few days ago setting up my Word Bearers when along comes this Black Templar player. He sees the one squad of World Eaters I had in the whole force, bare in mind I use 3 cult legions in addition to the WB, and says, "You play World Eaters." I was baffled, confused, and conflabbergastergated! :devil:

 

Later that day I was considering ways to prevent my legion from ever being mis-identified again. New paint scheme? No. Demon orgy? No. Word Bearer iconography spammed across my army? Yes. ;)

 

Your thoughts, stories, or recommendations? Mostly stories?

 

*pinches bridge of nose*

 

This happens to me all the time as well. Despite the Slaanesh daemons, the Khorne Berzerkers being deliberately singled out with a bloody bronze colourscheme, the icons of various gods who are not Khorne slathered all over the army and the burning head transfers on any model I've had the patience to apply them to, people still seem to think mine's a Khorne army.

 

"We Bear the Word; we don't Eat the World."

 

I don't think the transfers really help. People just don't pay attention enough these days.

[Zeller]

I've begun considering writing legible propaganda onto all my tanks and marines. I might go as far..no I will go as far as making a single bearer once I find more legs carrying a gigantic bannerpole with a massive banner that says "We are Word Bearers". Then at the bottom it will say "Not in affiliation with the World Eaters legion." Perhaps I can just put the banner itself on a pole jutting from the ground in my deployment zone. :D

 

I've also considered this idea:

My buddy bought a huge valhallan army along with $200+ worth of bits and models from a guy. In it were slaaneshi terminators slathered in pink and black but on their bases was nice happy green grass. My friends and I made some..comments regarding the irony of said model. How about a legion in pink and black with their faces shaved down and replaced by big bright yellow smiley faces of varying emotion frollicking through "happy" grass fields? Mistake me for WE, I think not!

[Jiri the Corrupted]

I've begun considering writing legible propaganda onto all my tanks and marines. I might go as far..no I will go as far as making a single bearer once I find more legs carrying a gigantic bannerpole with a massive banner that says "We are Word Bearers". Then at the bottom it will say "Not in affiliation with the World Eaters legion." Perhaps I can just put the banner itself on a pole jutting from the ground in my deployment zone. :lol:

 

I've also considered this idea:

My buddy bought a huge valhallan army along with $200+ worth of bits and models from a guy. In it were slaaneshi terminators slathered in pink and black but on their bases was nice happy green grass. My friends and I made some..comments regarding the irony of said model. How about a legion in pink and black with their faces shaved down and replaced by big bright yellow smiley faces of varying emotion frollicking through "happy" grass fields? Mistake me for WE, I think not!

Hehe, I laughed. A lot.

 

Perhaps you should get a shirt with a print that says "I play WORD BEARERS, think otherwise and Lorgar will eat you soul!"

[Lord_Caerolion]

You could try wearing that shirt, but just wait until you get the kids asking "Who's Lorgar? Is he your Daemon Prince?"

Or even worse, they could ask if he's a World Eater!

[Zeller]

By the corpse Emperor you're absolutely right! ;) !

 

Nonetheless, I do not deal with children and I have begun what is to be the only and singlemost awesome WB oozing entity in my army: said afformentioned banner.

[Jiri the Corrupted]

I applaud your efforts. Maybe you should buy a small neon sign too, just to drive your point home.