Ferrus Manus Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 I doubt the marines would want normal citizens working on their equipment and vehicles. They would want someone who is at least equal to them,like a brother-marine to do the job. But, I could see them working aboard the fleet as maintenance staff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138018-the-phantoms-v25/page/3/#findComment-1605639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Why would the Chapter do so? It just seems like you're attempting to cultivate a relationship with the Adeptus Mechanicus, but what depth does it give to the Chapter? Serfs and Artificers don't need Adeptus Mechanicus training - Techmarines can provide that. Also - in Beliefs you should mention the rampant xenophobia in the Chapter. The Phantoms were apparently created to destroy aliens, yet you seem to have them focusing on Tau. So they'd hate Tau, but not Kroot, Demiurg, Nicassar, Vespid, Orks, Necrons, Tyranids... :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138018-the-phantoms-v25/page/3/#findComment-1605645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubernator Posted June 20, 2008 Author Share Posted June 20, 2008 It was a thought. From that thread I gathered that Marines are sent off. So I was thinking "why not just normal people?" I could say that most tech marines are on Alacanth and they help maintain production. And oops, I missed that part. I was so wrapped in the Tau I forgot everything else :lol: I shall get to work on that immediately. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138018-the-phantoms-v25/page/3/#findComment-1605658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkana Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Children here are taught how to craft weapons and various items that the Phantoms would use. I think you should explain this more. Are the children making bolters, grenades, chainswords, etc? How are they learning how to do this? I don't think civilians would know how to manufacture things that the AdMech have issues with. Other than that minor thing, this looks really good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138018-the-phantoms-v25/page/3/#findComment-1605736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telveryon Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 The Mecanicus don't have issues with most things used by the Astartes. Civilian factories with decent machines wouldn't have much trouble making things routinely used by space marines such as ammo, grenades, combat knifes and chainswords. However I wouldn't see a space marine using anything made by a child. Even the knifes would be manufactured out of materials to hard to force by hand let alone a child's hand. Then there is the question of craftsmanship, after all space marines get second dibs on the good stuff, the Mecanicus are more or less required to provide space marines with at least basic equipment. So what would you use, an iron knife made by a child which is quite likely to break on ork's skin, let alone armor, or a laser sharpened adamantium blade guarantied to cut a thousand ork heads without going dull? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138018-the-phantoms-v25/page/3/#findComment-1605756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubernator Posted June 21, 2008 Author Share Posted June 21, 2008 Thanks for the imput guys :tu: I kinda got carried away there. What I mean is that the children are sent off to have lessons in how to craft such weapons but it's only until they're adults that they actually make these weapons on a regular basis. I wouldn't use a bolter made by a child; it would probably explode on me :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138018-the-phantoms-v25/page/3/#findComment-1606188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 But it really doesn't add anything to your Chapter whatsoever. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138018-the-phantoms-v25/page/3/#findComment-1606191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubernator Posted June 21, 2008 Author Share Posted June 21, 2008 Well the alternative to supplies is saying they make regular trips to Corinthe and the few other Forgeworlds in that region. I kinda wanted to avoid that though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138018-the-phantoms-v25/page/3/#findComment-1606192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 I'm really lost. All Space Marine Chapters receive supplies from Forgeworlds. There's a position in most Chapters known as the "Chief Victualler". He's responsible for supplies. You seem to lack the basic understanding of how a Space Marine Chapter operates, so you kept caught on these insignificant issues that really don't matter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138018-the-phantoms-v25/page/3/#findComment-1606200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubernator Posted June 21, 2008 Author Share Posted June 21, 2008 I'm still new so I still have fluff to learn. I've scrapped it anyway, so the planet is now only a mining planet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138018-the-phantoms-v25/page/3/#findComment-1606202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubernator Posted June 22, 2008 Author Share Posted June 22, 2008 My not-so-clever-at-40K mind is telling me my IA is about as good as it gets so far. Any new ideas I'll test out. But apart from that I think I'm done. although because it's me I'm generally wrong :ermm: So, what do you all think?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138018-the-phantoms-v25/page/3/#findComment-1606965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwenCrute Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Decided it was about tim i struck at the enemy's home :lol: Looks pretty good, some of it I don't like, but that's just my personal opinion. Nothing too counter to the fluff in there. To add my $0.12 (ten extra 'cos I'm awesome) to the normal humans working on Space Marine supplies, I have two words. Chapter Serfs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138018-the-phantoms-v25/page/3/#findComment-1608348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubernator Posted June 24, 2008 Author Share Posted June 24, 2008 Decided it was about tim i struck at the enemy's home :) :D Well looks like you did ;) Looks pretty good, some of it I don't like, but that's just my personal opinion. Nothing too counter to the fluff in there. You're gonna have to point out watcha don't like :P I'd like to know, so I can decide whether to tweak it or not :P ;) To add my $0.12 (ten extra 'cos I'm awesome) to the normal humans working on Space Marine supplies, I have two words. Chapter Serfs. :) cheers for the extra dough :P And good point. But I decided to ditch the idea of civilians making SM weapons after much controversy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138018-the-phantoms-v25/page/3/#findComment-1608698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubernator Posted June 25, 2008 Author Share Posted June 25, 2008 Hey guys. Currently writing up my Torrok War. I've just put up a link to part II in the "Story Links" sections at the bottom at the page. Enjoy ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138018-the-phantoms-v25/page/3/#findComment-1609664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherDamascus Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 a great IA Hubernator im glad you pointed me to it, it was a great read ;) i really like the beliefs section, it was very well written. (add to that, your IA has cleared up what kind of thing i should chuck into my 'combat doctrine' section - admittedly i had no clue what was ment to go in it) im just extremely curious about the scheme. (i call you the scheme man for the amount you constantly produce :) ) so why did you choose this one? dont say green fetish XD <<Damascus>> Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138018-the-phantoms-v25/page/3/#findComment-1610957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubernator Posted June 26, 2008 Author Share Posted June 26, 2008 Ta very much Damuscus :D Glad I could help for your Beliefs fluff. As for why I chose the scheme, when I was a proper newb (a few months ago :P) I really liked it and came up with ideas for it. And I chose green because I didn't want to use black :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138018-the-phantoms-v25/page/3/#findComment-1610968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherDamascus Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 fair enough :D at any rate, it is one sweet logo :P i am so tempted to draw a Land Raider in you scheme XD <<Damascus>> Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138018-the-phantoms-v25/page/3/#findComment-1611003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubernator Posted June 26, 2008 Author Share Posted June 26, 2008 fair enough :P at any rate, it is one sweet logo :P i am so tempted to draw a Land Raider in you scheme XD Fortknight came up with it :D And go ahead, I'd like to see what it looks like :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138018-the-phantoms-v25/page/3/#findComment-1611016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherDamascus Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 here you go :) just a quick draw-upage 'Memento Mouri' - Land Raider of The Phantoms enjoy ;) <<Damascus>> Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138018-the-phantoms-v25/page/3/#findComment-1611084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubernator Posted June 26, 2008 Author Share Posted June 26, 2008 Duuuuuue that is awesome :woot: That's so good I'm saving that and If I get one I'll name it "The Damuscan" after ya :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138018-the-phantoms-v25/page/3/#findComment-1611106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherDamascus Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 twas a pleasure :woot: if you'd like, i've done LOADS of weapons, and pretty much all the loyalist tanks (cept the razorback) so i can make phantom ones if you like :D so what's gong into the IA next? EDIT: thats nice ;) im naming my Knight Titan after Blackraptor for spotting something...i might do 'competitions' lol <<Damascus>> Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138018-the-phantoms-v25/page/3/#findComment-1611110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubernator Posted June 26, 2008 Author Share Posted June 26, 2008 twas a pleasure ;) if you'd like, i've done LOADS of weapons, and pretty much all the loyalist tanks (cept the razorback) so i can make phantom ones if you like :) I would love it if you did :D so what's gong into the IA next? Not sure. Right now it's story links for a war I'm writing up. EDIT: thats nice ;) im naming my Knight Titan after Blackraptor for spotting something...i might do 'competitions' lol :woot: cool. That would be funny if you did :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138018-the-phantoms-v25/page/3/#findComment-1611115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telveryon Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 And I chose green because I didn't want to use black :) Hey! Black an yellow look great! Maybe not lime yellow, but you get the idea ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138018-the-phantoms-v25/page/3/#findComment-1611350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubernator Posted June 27, 2008 Author Share Posted June 27, 2008 Hey! Black an yellow look great! Maybe not lime yellow, but you get the idea :teehee: I know that. It's just I've seen it used many times before. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138018-the-phantoms-v25/page/3/#findComment-1611842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubernator Posted July 6, 2008 Author Share Posted July 6, 2008 Time for a small update folks. I've (almost) written up the Torrok War, so take a peeky at that :P One more thing, since the 1st Company is different I felt they needed a varied scheme. So I came up with this: http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg17/Hubernator/Phantoms/PhantomMarine1stCompany.jpghttp://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg17/Hubernator/Phantoms/PhantomMarineTerminator1stCompany.jpg I've also got one for CM Viktor Kraw, just for a perspective on colour: http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg17/Hubernator/Phantoms/ChapterMasterViktorKraw.jpg Watcha all think??? PS: still waiting for those pics Damuscus :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138018-the-phantoms-v25/page/3/#findComment-1620456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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