Darkmessiah Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Been working on this guy for about 2 weeks now, he is a practise mini for a GD project am thinking about. Iv put him up for 2 reasons, just so u guys can check the scale of the anatomy, leg length, arm length etc and some ideas. iv not decided which legion he will belong to, i think the claw and the fantasy sword (exotic demonic blade?) makes him a good candidate for the side of chaos, was originally goin with Emps Children, i think the head and backpack lends itself to Death Guard but I am planning a long cloak that drags behind him and a ultramarine/roman leather tassle belt thing as well which could give him more of a luna wolves look... be interesting to see wot u guys come up with :-D http://i30.tinypic.com/noek5z.jpg http://i29.tinypic.com/az0pi.jpg http://i31.tinypic.com/vfk1lz.jpg http://i29.tinypic.com/14o10go.jpg http://i30.tinypic.com/2vwsol0.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138160-pre-heresy-ec-marine/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavyer Jubal Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 :unsure: ;) :P OMG dude ur GS work is the smoothest ive ever seen, i wish i had ur skillz :P seriously, the model is jawdropping, stunning greenstuff work and i can wait to see it painted. consider this thread watched :D grtZ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138160-pre-heresy-ec-marine/#findComment-1593974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 how do you do that :huh: do tell i want smooth shiny greenstuff ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138160-pre-heresy-ec-marine/#findComment-1594024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pake Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Your GS-fu is strong! That thing is going to look sweet! To my eye the anatomy and that stuff looks OK, the only thing that caught my eye was his butt. :huh: At the moment he looks like he has no a**. I think You should bring the armor plates further out because he is a marine, and under all that armor there is an extremely well-trained butt. ;) Otherwise, stunning work! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138160-pre-heresy-ec-marine/#findComment-1594050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkmessiah Posted June 9, 2008 Author Share Posted June 9, 2008 because he is a marine, and under all that armor there is an extremely well-trained butt. :P very true :P his backside is a little under developed because its not finished yet, now it may stay like that because of the cloak i want to sculpt, it will cover his arse, so it might not worth developing it further, am goin to do some sketches to see wot direction i want to take the mini, then we'll see :P cheers for the responses guys, as for the GS, technically its not quite green stuff, its a 50-50 mix of GS and standard milliput, this makes it alot harder. i then shape it and smooth it with standard extra fine sandpaper, once its in shape i spend alot of time with 2500 grit sandpaper to get it really really smooth. it takes time but its well worth it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138160-pre-heresy-ec-marine/#findComment-1594307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacton Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 He looks fantastic Darkmessiah. I was a little more concerned about the tiny feet rather than the tiny buttocks plate, but maybe thats just me.... I think that the general spiky look would make for a nice Night Lord or maybe an Alpha - especially seeing as his identity is slightly indistinct from the re-breather :) Great work though and I look forward to seeing what you do decide to paint him up as, regardless. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138160-pre-heresy-ec-marine/#findComment-1594816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-relk Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 im with iacton on this one, his bum doesnt look that small, but he has tiny feet. otherwise, im so jealous that id like to break your fingers..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138160-pre-heresy-ec-marine/#findComment-1594823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkmessiah Posted June 10, 2008 Author Share Posted June 10, 2008 I was a little more concerned about the tiny feet rather than the tiny buttocks plate, but maybe thats just me.... i agree about the feet, having a proper look at him, i think the only way to properly fix it is to widen the bottom of his legs by a few mil to give space for some nice chunky feet, unfortunatly this is a test peice and iv got a comp at the end of the month, so time is short, ill try to make his toes a little longer, but ill definitly fix it when am working on my GD project. as for the legion i think i may stick to EC, the conversion prob suits night lords, am just not too comfortable using blues and he may be lobbed in a comp at the end of the month, ill sit down and look the colours id use for both, do some sketches and then decide, nice call on the NL though, i wouldnt have even considered it otherwise :geek: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138160-pre-heresy-ec-marine/#findComment-1595569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
khalaek Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 very nice work overall. but i definitely agree about the feet and "rear" of this guy. the proportions are off. though you really can't fix it now (and there's no real need to, if you're in a time crunch), next time make the body (torso, abdomen, and pelvis) more like a rectangle than an hourglass. so more like this http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n122/cameracrew1/GW%20stuff/2vwsol0-e1.jpg than this http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n122/cameracrew1/GW%20stuff/2vwsol0-e2.jpg this will enhance the true-scale nature that the rest of the marine shows, and make the marine look more masculine than feminin. Happy Painting! Khalaek Lord Blitzkrieg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138160-pre-heresy-ec-marine/#findComment-1595623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacton Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 i agree about the feet, having a proper look at him, i think the only way to properly fix it is to widen the bottom of his legs by a few mil to give space for some nice chunky feet, unfortunatly this is a test peice and iv got a comp at the end of the month, so time is short, ill try to make his toes a little longer, but ill definitly fix it when am working on my GD project. as for the legion i think i may stick to EC, the conversion prob suits night lords, am just not too comfortable using blues and he may be lobbed in a comp at the end of the month, ill sit down and look the colours id use for both, do some sketches and then decide, nice call on the NL though, i wouldnt have even considered it otherwise :devil: Thinking about all that lovely smooth armour is crying out for lightning effects to make it show out. Plus the whole angular shape to the knees, feet and such do really lend it to the scary boys. I think that you would need to make him far more pretty faced to be a higher level EC too - although a straight head swap is the least of your concerns right now, I'm sure ;) Looking forward to whatever you decide to try. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138160-pre-heresy-ec-marine/#findComment-1595920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkmessiah Posted June 11, 2008 Author Share Posted June 11, 2008 http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n122/cameracrew1/GW%20stuff/2vwsol0-e2.jpg khalaek, u know when ur talking about this rectangle shape, would that be acheived by making him less curvy more squared or would it just be a case of making making the chest wider than his hips? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138160-pre-heresy-ec-marine/#findComment-1595947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigger-than-Jesus Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 B) Noice. Where is the sword from? It looks elfish but i can't place it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138160-pre-heresy-ec-marine/#findComment-1595964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weiss Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 I believe it's the Empire Wizards one. This guy looks great man, and any problems with it I think have already been mentioned. Can't wait to see more prgress on him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138160-pre-heresy-ec-marine/#findComment-1595982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkmessiah Posted June 24, 2008 Author Share Posted June 24, 2008 right big update, iv made the decision to go with EC, its purely for asthetic reasons, purple and gold will look alot nicer. iv got a ton of work to do still, and iv got to try and finish and paint it for the 28th! http://i32.tinypic.com/19uslt.jpg http://i28.tinypic.com/2r6d5xg.jpg http://i25.tinypic.com/2mh9aas.jpg http://i25.tinypic.com/2l9h6rt.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138160-pre-heresy-ec-marine/#findComment-1608245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealous Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 That is OUTSTANDING work. I will be following this closely for inspiration! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138160-pre-heresy-ec-marine/#findComment-1608248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
khalaek Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n122/cameracrew1/GW%20stuff/2vwsol0-e2.jpg khalaek, u know when ur talking about this rectangle shape, would that be acheived by making him less curvy more squared or would it just be a case of making making the chest wider than his hips? no i mean make the hips a little wider if you look at artwork like this http://www.imperialwargh.com/SpaceMarine.jpg the hips are actually as wide as the widest part of the chest piece Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138160-pre-heresy-ec-marine/#findComment-1608287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NemFX Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 I think we have another Doghouse level modeller here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138160-pre-heresy-ec-marine/#findComment-1608306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkmessiah Posted June 27, 2008 Author Share Posted June 27, 2008 the hips are actually as wide as the widest part of the chest piece yep, point taken, ill widen the hips when i work on the project proper :tu: I think we have another Doghouse level modeller here. Doghouse level? :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138160-pre-heresy-ec-marine/#findComment-1611723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJP Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Doghouse Level = As good as Doghouse, check out his tutorials on Actual Scale Space Marines, and his Cosmic Space Knights of Doom... And about 3 or 4 hundred other different bits and pieces on this board! Oh, and this model is absolutely incredible... I'm jealous of your gs-fu now... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138160-pre-heresy-ec-marine/#findComment-1611847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkmessiah Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 thanks for clarifying that for me Corus :lol: alrite guys update time! iv managed to resolve the issue i had with hi left elbow, iv just made it really chunky and added a nice spike to it. the cloak am not entirely happy with, but am a little out of my depth with fabrics so it will have to do for this piece, still to add a fir trim at the bottom. backpack still needs alot of work, id like to make the central bit really chunky by adding a large turbine or somethin, not sure yet. the base is another sticking point, considering painting the rock in obsidian colours to contrast with the purples and golds, with a banner of a loyalist legion draped on the steps, I also want the inscription 'Oh how my noble deeds are smeared with the blood of Heroes', some where on the base to really sell the loyalist turned traitor idea and the moral dilemma u get in the novels. although, i think i might be over complicating the base so iv also been considering these ideas but on a simple flat tiled floor to keep the emphasis on the mini, ill prob do some more drawing and see wot ideas everyone comes up with. I also want to sculpt a partial eagle on his left shin and add some square studs on his other shin http://i35.tinypic.com/23hu2ie.jpg http://i36.tinypic.com/2woyxlj.jpg http://i36.tinypic.com/v5lfh3.jpg http://i38.tinypic.com/10elqh5.jpg http://i34.tinypic.com/m9rf3q.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138160-pre-heresy-ec-marine/#findComment-1651092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImperialTemplari Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 that's great Darkmessiah, that banner looks awesome, can't wait to see paint on it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138160-pre-heresy-ec-marine/#findComment-1651101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
solid snake drive Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 I think the problem with the fabric is that it's sticking to him instead of naturally flowing down with gravity, but what do I know. Awesome GS'ing skills overall. I think this is gonna be amazing once finished and painted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138160-pre-heresy-ec-marine/#findComment-1651192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frost Knight Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 thats incredible! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138160-pre-heresy-ec-marine/#findComment-1651215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Awesome sculpting, not that you needed to be told that. He actually seems to me like he'd make a good Night Lord, or even Lufgt Huron before he turned to Chaos. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138160-pre-heresy-ec-marine/#findComment-1651282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkmessiah Posted August 6, 2008 Author Share Posted August 6, 2008 Update time! Finished working on the legs, the eagle is a replication of the Vet Serg's, although its not obvious because the other half is 'hidden', i think the studs help balance the top and the bottom out. I also put some nicks into the bottom of the cloak to balance out the damage the banner has took. http://i36.tinypic.com/1znxwus.jpg http://i38.tinypic.com/2chw4tz.jpg http://i35.tinypic.com/1212xzq.jpg http://i38.tinypic.com/6rhk52.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/138160-pre-heresy-ec-marine/#findComment-1655355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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