JetfireUK Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 Hi There, I've been a lurker on this site for the best part of six months and have finally plucked up the courage to put something up on the site. I really love the new possessed kit as it really allows you to try different techniques. I entered the GW painting competition at my not-so-local GW in Belfast with a Lucius the Eternal mini. Unfortunately it's in the store so I can't get images yet. The reason I've put this mini is in response to what the manager in the store said to me. I placed in the middle and the manager explained that my contrast and highlighting isn't balanced. So what am I doing wrong? Again, please be critical and if someone can explain contrast - that'd be great. Cheers! http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y104/JetfireUK/PossessedNo1005.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_bunny Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 BRILLIANT! An awsome first post too. welcome, well not welcome, but hi I guess :teehee: contrast is: 'The degree of difference between the lightest and darkest tones in an image.' I think he means it goes from the dark parts to WHOA! bright. A teeny bit like the lightning. I like it with details like that, makes it more apparent, but the best way to rid yourself is to add more layers, going up in brightness not too much. Like I said, its not that nesicary for that fellow in my opinion. :teehee: I can't wait to see you other peices! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdr. King Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 My guess is that hes referring to a lot of your colour scheme on the model is very similar, by that i mean that blue and purple are quite similar colours it makes everything look quite similar to the eye especially with all the shades being very dark, you might be able to resurrect it with using a small amount of quite a light colour for highlighting along some of the bony edges and such just to make them stand out a bit. Contrasting colours would help a viewer to distinguish between objects like Black and White for example are contrasting colours because when you can have say a white shirt and a black tie the contrast between the colours means you can easily see the Tie against the shirt. Im not an artist or anything so dont hold me to this but im fairly sure im on the right track, if you take a look on google or something for a colour wheel you might find a good description with that and generally colours opposite each other on a colour wheel are contrasting colours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetfireUK Posted June 15, 2008 Author Share Posted June 15, 2008 Thanks for the replies guys and making me feel welcome! I used a colour wheel when I was painting the figure and chose blue for the Nightlords scheme and purple as it was a split complimentary colour (i.e. it was next to blue on the colour wheel). Should I have used a different colour such as yellow or red to produce a better contrast? As for the blending - I still can't quite get the balance between light and dark - should I blend 1/4 of a shoulder pad bright and brighter or should I work the whole way across and gradually shrink the brighter areas bit by bit? Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJB Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 It looks great, the only thing I could suggest is a further highlight on the purple as Cdr. King says. You've built it up beautifully from the blue all the way to the purple, but it just looks like it needs another highlight, especially on the ridges of the horns and the claw Great work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmodeus' Swordhand Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 lovely lightning brother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannicide Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 The lightning has turned out, nicely. The only thing that could use some work, would be some possible shading on the purple? Otherwise a GREAT first post, welcome. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdr. King Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 I think the choice of a complimentary purple was good, but the two similar dark colours just blend a little too much, i think just building the highlights to a brighter quite pale colour (maybe a pinkish or very light purple) would probably finish off a nicely painted model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmodeus' Swordhand Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 The purple works. It is so sinister :) it needs nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetfireUK Posted June 30, 2008 Author Share Posted June 30, 2008 Hi Chaps, Thanks for the comments and criticism - here's my second Possessed figure. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y104/JetfireUK/PossessedFigures290608005.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y104/JetfireUK/PossessedFigures290608006.jpg I've also added a comparison against my first one - hopefully you can spot the difference in the two! http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y104/JetfireUK/PossessedFigures290608004.jpg Grateful for your thoughts and comments. I felt that this one was a little too busy to add the lightning effects, but let meknow what you think. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scar Weaver Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 Very nice! I am a big fan of extreme highlighting. Did you use a wash? If not, may be an option. That would darken it just enough. Great second to what will be a nice looking squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucrosium Malice Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 The purple highlights on the second possessed is great. There is more definition between the two colors on the second minature. They both look good, and are more than great for table top play, but the second one is definitely better. Keep up the great work! You will get even better once you are more comfortable working with those colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetfireUK Posted June 30, 2008 Author Share Posted June 30, 2008 Thanks for the kind words! I'll give your suggestion of a wash a go. At the moment I'm finding it difficult to balance contrast with a smooth layering of paint - it could be that I'm simply not using enough layers of paint - but that wash might solve that. I didn't used to be a fan of extreme highlighting, but it seems to work well with these figures and gives them an unatural edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmndr Sarpedon Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 Good blend with the colours, do you have any hints in how you do it? I struggle painting possessed :P And hi :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetfireUK Posted June 30, 2008 Author Share Posted June 30, 2008 Good blend with the colours, do you have any hints in how you do it? I struggle painting possessed Thanks very much! I tend to layer the paints and have the paint at a fairly watery consistency. Blue - Necron Abyss as a base followed by Midnight Blue, Regal Blue, Enchanted Blue and Ice Blue Purple - Hormagaunt Purple as a base followed by Liche Purple, Warlock Purple and Tentacle Pink I also tend to mix the colours together so that the layers tend to blend together. I've chosen to do an extreme highlight to add a bit of contrast between the purple and blue. I'm still learning which is why I'm not great at it... yet. :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dammeron Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 You know, I would never have thought that purple and dark blue would work so well, and yet...wonderful work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loketh Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 Sweet stuff, they just scream Night Lord. Dark models, and the purple makes them stand out! I'd like to see some more Night Lords with no red, just purple to make them unique. That would be a really awesome looking army. Keep it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha PTP Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 I never cared for Purple and Blue as colors together. It always reminded me of those Pop-Tarts. :( You have changed my opinion about the colors together, though. You pulled it off quite tastefully. Do you have any other Night Lord models? Or is this the start of an army? Alpha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GumbaFish Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 I think the second one is a big improvement over the first, the blues and purples are much easier to distinguish and are a little lighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetfireUK Posted July 2, 2008 Author Share Posted July 2, 2008 Thanks you lot - your comments are really inspiring. I'll hopefully have some more progress on my third figure this weekend. I know, I'm a slow painter! To answer the question on the army - at the moment the possessed are my only Night Lord figures, but I'm tempted to paint my Chaos Terminators and Raptors in the same colour scheme. I was never quite a fan of the dark blue and red so I'm going to stick with my dark blue and purple. I'm glad that the colours have more contrast on the second figure you are all helping me paint in the right direction. A quick question - should I add the lightning effects to the second figure? I couldn't find a good spot to add them and wondered if it makes the figures look disjointed? Any criticsm/comments are gratefully received. :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 wow that purple and blue gets me, the lightning effects are amazing and the layering Beautiful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetfireUK Posted July 27, 2008 Author Share Posted July 27, 2008 Hi Chaps, Sorry to resurrect a zombie thread, but I thought that I should keep all my figures in one thread rather than having many. Anyway, I am a very slow painter but here's the results of my third possessed Night Lord: http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y104/JetfireUK/SL270447.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y104/JetfireUK/SL270449.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y104/JetfireUK/SL270450.jpg Here's a group shot of all three of my finished possessed figures so far - hopefully there's an improvement in my painting from left to right. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y104/JetfireUK/SL270448.jpg The only trouble I have had recently is the hot weather here in Ireland - my paints are drying out too quickly. :D Grateful for any comments and/or criticism as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaldoth Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Excellent job on all three! I like them all :lol: My only crit is the direction in which you are taking your blue. Giving the purple skin tone a further highlight was a step in the right direction. However, it seems as if you are making the armor a lighter blue as well. It may just be the camera, but the dark blue you used in your first mini looks spectacular, whereas the last two look kind of chalky and bright. I would suggest sticking with the method you are using to paint the skin, but revert back to the method you were using to paint the armor in the beginning. IMO, it'll look ace :lol: Cheers, -Kal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhg033 Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 really nice - tempted to give it a go myself. think the purple looks really good - the complment between the colors makes it look like the armor is warping into something new along with the marine inside. lhg033 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetfireUK Posted July 28, 2008 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 Excellent job on all three! I like them all :) My only crit is the direction in which you are taking your blue. Giving the purple skin tone a further highlight was a step in the right direction. However, it seems as if you are making the armor a lighter blue as well. It may just be the camera, but the dark blue you used in your first mini looks spectacular, whereas the last two look kind of chalky and bright. I would suggest sticking with the method you are using to paint the skin, but revert back to the method you were using to paint the armor in the beginning. IMO, it'll look ace :ph34r: Cheers, -Kal Hi Kal, Cheers for the comments. You are right about the blue - the last two minis have been given a highlight from Necron Abyss right through to Ice Blue. I'm now starting work on my fourth possessed so I'll give a crack at the light purple with a darker blue. In some ways this squad is an ideal one for experimenting as the variations on colour can be put down to their possessed nature. I'll also go back with the lightning effects too - the second mini had no real amour to add the lightning - but I reckon I can do something with the third one. Oli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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