Future Horus Heresy novels - 2009

[JekCromium]

I don't think a Salamanders HH book would be out of the question. Just cover pre-Isstvaan 5, Isstvaan 5, post-Isstvan 5 cleanup, and then them showing up to discuss the Index Astartes.

 

I mean, if they carry the HH books into the after-Horus-is-dead stage of things, it would be a nice place to put the Salamanders' book. After the final confrontation you now have a book that pulls you back to pre-heresy conquests, heresy era destruction, and post-heresy retribution.

 

It could easily be set after a Raven Guard book with a similar setup. First show the depths a primarch will sink to in order to rebuild his legion quickly, then show the heights another primarch can reach by rebuilding things the old-fashioned way.

 

Honestly, if they don't do a Salamanders HH book they are missing out on a golden opportunity to show some truly righteous primarch fury.

[krystalmesh]

Well, they plan to make 40 books for the HH series, so I don't think we'll get a book about the Siege of Terra soon. So far we've had in-dept stuff about 5 traitor legions and a novel about the sixth (word bearers) coming up. The upcoming novel will also cover some stuff about the Ultramarines. The Iron Hands made an appearence in Fulgrim and a very small bit about the Imperial Fists was in Flight of the Eisenstein. So far we've only had one loyalist specific novel: Descent of Angels. So that's 6 traitor legions and 2,5 loyalists.

 

Conclusion is that they will probably cover the remaining 9 legions. And don't forget the numerous Guard-regiment and different organs of Imperial rule. Nah, the Battle of Terra is years away from getting novelized ;)

 

Gadzookes! last I heard they were going to make 20-ish books, didnt know its been raised to 40 now. Im going to have to buy another bookshelf.

 

Im halfway through Mechanicum now. I am really enjoying it, though where I am at, I dont see exactly "where" there book is going. Im sure itll clear up. Good read none the less. I wonder when the Omnibus's will start appearing.

 

the HH series makes me remember why I promised myself I would never start reading another series before ALL the books were released (ie. Souldrinkers, Word Bearers, Gaunts, Ultramarines, etc) I am currently stuck in the middle of nearly a dozen different series that show no sign of ending. *sigh*

[BauerPower]

Was just scanning the Black Library website and saw that the next 3 novels have been confirmed as.

 

Tales of Heresy.- Nick Kyme/Lindsey Preistley

Fallen Angels. - Mike Lee

Prospero Burns. - Dan Abnett

 

Glad that Abnett has given a title to the 1k Sons book but i'm scpetical about Fallen Angels because i'm half way through DoA and i'm enjoying it but it's not as great as expected.

 

anyone elses veiws?

[TeamLando]

As far as I know, Prospero Burns ain't no 1k son book, but a Space Wolf book.

That's what he hinted in his blog, atleast. As mesntioned at the very end of his latest post: http://theprimaryclone.blogspot.com/

 

And oh, that Tales of Heresy-thing is a collection of shortstoies by Abnett and the likes, kyme and priesley aren't the writers.

[CrimsonMissed]

Quite looking forward to the Space Wolves book on prospero, and the Thousand Sons one shoud be interesting as a contrast.

 

To be honest, I am not sure if I will bother with the next Dark Angels book. As a history of the chapter at that time DoA was good, but had no place in the series as it did not contain any reference to the heresy or the activities or events in the preceding novels. ALL of the other books were part of a coherent sequence of tales specifically relating to the heresy. DoA was not, and therefore should not have been part of the series.

 

I must assume that the forthcoming Fall of Angels will be associated to the series in some manner in an attmept to justify the unrelated tangential nature of DoA, but I would not be surprised to find that the DA's internal schism was just that - internal, and unrelated to the betrayal and subsequent attempted usurpation of the emperor by Horus.

 

Not entirely sure of what position that could possibly hold in the HH series, other than as an explanation for the effective absence of the first legion from the conflict.

 

Not that I have anything against the Dark Angels of course, but it seems a little presumptious that they get a book in the series all about them and no one else which is, effectively, utterly unrelated to the series other than that it occurred at a similar point in the timeline.

[Mr.(Space)Marine]

To be honest, I am not sure if I will bother with the next Dark Angels book. As a history of the chapter at that time DoA was good, but had no place in the series as it did not contain any reference to the heresy or the activities or events in the preceding novels. ALL of the other books were part of a coherent sequence of tales specifically relating to the heresy. DoA was not, and therefore should not have been part of the series.

 

Exactly my thoughts, I thought it was a good book, but it just didn't seem to fit in with the other HH books. Hopefully the Fallen Angels book will be better.

[TeamLando]

They just uploaded the cover page to Prospero Burns.

http://www.blacklibrary.com/images/blog/Prospero%20Burns.jpg

 

As a dedicated Space Wolves player I can only say that it's....

Perfect. In every way.

[Pacific81]

Awesome, thanks for that TeamLando. Funny that 'Prospero Burns' has got the coldest looking cover of any GW book ever written! :lol:

 

And is the 'The Wolves unleashed' bit really necessary? We could probably guess that from the name of the title 'Prospero Burns' and the fact theres a wolf on the cover!

 

I wonder if McNeil handling the 'fallen' legions is going to continue? Thats 'False Gods', 'Fulgrim' and now this one concerning the 1k Sons.

[TeamLando]

Necessary? Nah, not really.

Awesome? Yeah, pretty damn awesome xD

 

What I really love about this one is that it's so very Leman Russ. It just screams feral.

 

Ah, I love this cover so much. And good pictures of Leman is rare to say the least.

[Lucifer Fellblade]

Awesome cover, but no beard :blink: , looks like we'll be getting some more Sisters of Silence action as well.

[Beef]

Hey the Wolves have beards.

[Bigger-than-Jesus]

To be honest, I am not sure if I will bother with the next Dark Angels book. As a history of the chapter at that time DoA was good, but had no place in the series as it did not contain any reference to the heresy or the activities or events in the preceding novels. ALL of the other books were part of a coherent sequence of tales specifically relating to the heresy. DoA was not, and therefore should not have been part of the series.

 

Exactly my thoughts, I thought it was a good book, but it just didn't seem to fit in with the other HH books. Hopefully the Fallen Angels book will be better.

DoA seemed to be more of a book that set the stage for something else. So an entire boo to introduce the main characters, and then another for the story itself, in this case the schism of the DA

[Justin Kase]

To be honest, I am not sure if I will bother with the next Dark Angels book. As a history of the chapter at that time DoA was good, but had no place in the series as it did not contain any reference to the heresy or the activities or events in the preceding novels. ALL of the other books were part of a coherent sequence of tales specifically relating to the heresy. DoA was not, and therefore should not have been part of the series.

 

Exactly my thoughts, I thought it was a good book, but it just didn't seem to fit in with the other HH books. Hopefully the Fallen Angels book will be better.

 

Actually, I felt pretty much the same way. The only thing that heartens me is that it isn't the same author, and I liked Lee's Nagash book (even if he had too many characters with almost the same damn name!). So, the DAs will get a second chance here at least.

 

From what I had read, there will be a second book in the tales of Prospero from the 1k Son's point of view, written by McNeil. Which is a good combination ;)

[Pacific81]

I think DoA will be vindicated by Fallen Angels.. its taking a long and winding road, but I think it will shine a light on the mystery surrounding the most mysterious of events of the Horus Heresy - i.e. what side were the Dark Angels actually on?

 

And after all, any story involving knights on horseback travelling around and fighting daemons with swords and guns is well worth it in my book :)

[Taz]

Wouldn't it be funny if after all this discussion, Fallen Angels turned out to be about some other legion? Highly improbable I know, but if it happened surely it would be funny.

[Dyp100]

HEY LOOK! It's Russes bro's, but where are the AC?

[Pacific81]

Wouldn't it be funny if after all this discussion, Fallen Angels turned out to be about some other legion? Highly improbable I know, but if it happened surely it would be funny.

 

It would be if they made it about the World Eaters :)

[Capt. Tates]

All this talk of DoA being totally pointless to the HH series really gets on my nerves, i think the author had to do this pre-heresy background novel for the Angels so that we could better understand there heresy, i mean Zadekiel meeting the watchers in the dark, a new cypher coming to power, the Lions and Luthers friendship, you couldn't put all of this in a Novel as well as the actual Legion fighting each other and the Lion and Luther having a massive battle to the point that Caliban blows up, then the aftermath of this terrible atrocity. It would be impossible to put all of this in one HH book, if the author just came in with "yeah the angels used to hunt warp spawn monster things and the Lion had this mate called Luther who was, like, his bestest mate and they all used to be knights and stuff" and then carries on with the story as normal, that wouldn't be cool would it? anyways sorry for the ramble.

[Child-of-the-Emperor]

Btw guys - i think we have a confirmed follow-up to "Legion" in the works, or there-abouts. Its ment to explain the implication of the twin primarchs and further the storyline of whether they truley are traitors/loyalists. My Moneys on; Omegon staying loyal, Alpharius betraying.. or Visa versa! :P or we may never truley find out, they are the Alpha Legion after all!

 

And to all the other juicy discussion going on;

 

I generally think like so far the HH series will focus mainly on the traitor legions, with some books mainly on the central/popular loyalist legions. Like has been said earlier, Novels from the perspective of the Salamanders for example would not really further the storyline in any way, because all they do is get slaughtered in the Drop site massacre, which was dealt with in "Fulgrim". Blood Angels, Imperial Fists, Ultramarines stand a good chance of taking the stage though in my opinon.

 

And i believe all the traitor legions will be dealt with, Im looking forward to the Iron Warriors one, but most of all the next but one(!) book; Prospero Burns! Thousands Sons are awsome! :D

 

Just look how amazing the big white pyramids look in the background of the cover art to Prospero Burns!! mmm!

 

I must assume that the forthcoming Fall of Angels will be associated to the series in some manner in an attmept to justify the unrelated tangential nature of DoA, but I would not be surprised to find that the DA's internal schism was just that - internal, and unrelated to the betrayal and subsequent attempted usurpation of the emperor by Horus.

 

Not entirely sure of what position that could possibly hold in the HH series, other than as an explanation for the effective absence of the first legion from the conflict.

 

Not that I have anything against the Dark Angels of course, but it seems a little presumptious that they get a book in the series all about them and no one else which is, effectively, utterly unrelated to the series other than that it occurred at a similar point in the timeline.

 

Hmm, well theres always the theory that the Lion was considering joining Horus, and he stalled on his way to Terra to see who held the upper hand and then join the winning side - (This is something which obviously ties in with the heresy and could be shown in Fallen Angels, and i think at the end of DoA we were showed a dark side to the Lion as he sent Luther back to Caliban, just some thoughts!) This is how many of the Fallen see things. There is also a perspective which states that Luther believed he was fighting for the Emperor and under advice fired on the lion, thinking he had betrayed the Imperium. (the Chaos gifts could be withdrawn from the fluff!) info on this kinda thing here

[Brother Aristeo]

Btw guys - i think we have a confirmed follow-up to "Legion" in the works, or there-abouts.

Where did you hear this? I heard about a possible Alpha Legion book set in 40k, but not heresy era. Either way, the more Alpha Legion the better!

[Child-of-the-Emperor]

Btw guys - i think we have a confirmed follow-up to "Legion" in the works, or there-abouts.

Where did you hear this? I heard about a possible Alpha Legion book set in 40k, but not heresy era. Either way, the more Alpha Legion the better!

 

There was a link on Warseer somnewhere if i remember - i'll try and find it. Its generally like "Fallen Angels" is the followup to "Descent of Angels" - there will be a followup to Legion - as i said its ment to explain to significance of Omegon.

 

Will try and find a link <_<

[malika666]

I think DoA will be vindicated by Fallen Angels.. its taking a long and winding road, but I think it will shine a light on the mystery surrounding the most mysterious of events of the Horus Heresy - i.e. what side were the Dark Angels actually on?

 

And after all, any story involving knights on horseback travelling around and fighting daemons with swords and guns is well worth it in my book :)

 

I hope that question will remain debatable. I liked Gav Trophe's story about Astalan (sp?) who claims that the Lion just remained neutral while both sides were killing each other.