GrantDaKiller Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Khârn did die once, after taking a lascannon shot to the chest IIRC during siege of Terra. It was confirmed by medics that both of his hearts had stopped and he was taken away to be burried. Khârn was killed by Sigismund the Emperors Champion, not by a lascannon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141310-skulltaker-or-kharne/page/2/#findComment-1665709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primarch Naogedd Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Skully doesn't *just* aim for the head, it's specifically said in his entry that he dismembers his opponent before decapitation. He also is "a duellist beyond compare", which says something. Also, his history is metal: 25 Grey Knight Brother-Captains is no small feat; if I recall correctly that was about as much as was required to banish An'grraath the Unbound (sp?). Skulltaker=Khârn+IV drip of liquid awesome. All in all though, I think it would be a tie. Khârn(lacking limbs): "You still shall not pass!" Skully(picks up sword): "We'll call it a draw." Khârn(in immense rage): "Come back here; I'll bite your legs off!" I saw Spamalot last week. It was awesome. –EDIT– Also, both of them are ridiculously awesome game-wise. My friends and I did a hero arena: Khârn took two wounds off of Abby, and killed Ursarkar E. Creed/Jarran Kell, Ahriman and a stock Interrogator-Chaplain all by himself. He was down to one wound, which is what is expected from such a killcount. Skully could have done that with maybe losing one, maybe two wounds. Maybe I should play Daemons; I can't fail 5++ saves to save my life. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141310-skulltaker-or-kharne/page/2/#findComment-1665790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tfcdogbert Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 It was 100 to banish Angraath. I think Khârn would win, he would shoot the hell out of skulltaker with plasma, and Khârn is arguably the second best fighter on the chaos side in the fluff, (excluding primarchs), also he is just such a massive badass its inconcievable that he might lose, he has fought everyone within reach of his axe, he lives to fight, and has existed 10'000 years and hes been fighting nearly every single one of those, and he is a personal favourite of Khorne, his most prolific champion. Edit: Or was that Angron... I get the two confused... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141310-skulltaker-or-kharne/page/2/#findComment-1665888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primarch Naogedd Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Well, Khârn may be a "Chosen Champion" of Khorne, (3.5 'dex) I think "Sacred Executioner" trumps that. It was Angron who it took 97/100 Grey Knight Brother-Captains to banish; it's said that Skully took out 25, and Angron (since he's so badass) should be allocated about 50, which means that Angron's full Bloodthirster bodyguard took out as many as Skully. It would be quite difficult for Khârn to fight while missing several limbs. Again, Skully=Khârn+IV drip of liquid awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141310-skulltaker-or-kharne/page/2/#findComment-1665906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyescrossed Posted August 17, 2008 Author Share Posted August 17, 2008 It was 100 to banish Angraath. I think Khârn would win, he would shoot the hell out of skulltaker with plasma, and Khârn is arguably the second best fighter on the chaos side in the fluff, (excluding primarchs), also he is just such a massive badass its inconcievable that he might lose, he has fought everyone within reach of his axe, he lives to fight, and has existed 10'000 years and hes been fighting nearly every single one of those, and he is a personal favourite of Khorne, his most prolific champion. Edit: Or was that Angron... I get the two confused... Skulltaker has lived longer than 10,000 years, and isn't mortal. Another thing, if Kharne is so important wouldn't he already be a daemon prince? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141310-skulltaker-or-kharne/page/2/#findComment-1665946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Khorne likes to have both mortal and immortal Champions. Khârn, for the same reasons as Abbaddon i guess, can go anywhere in the material universe and not dissolve, and can slaughter his enemies whenever he likes. Skulltaker on the other hand needs a Warp-Material realm breakdown... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141310-skulltaker-or-kharne/page/2/#findComment-1666217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tfcdogbert Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Skulltaker has lived longer than 10,000 years, and isn't mortal.Another thing, if Kharne is so important wouldn't he already be a daemon prince? True but how many of those were spent fighting? We dont especially know about what happens in the warp but he will only have fought when he is taken out of the warp and cast into the material world, and there were barely any demonic incursions encountered before the heresy, im just dubious about how much of his longer life has been spent fighting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141310-skulltaker-or-kharne/page/2/#findComment-1666558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primarch Naogedd Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Because he's the most favored not-Bloodthirster daemon, I'd say he'd be fighting in the front lines of Khorne's armies in the Great Game/War. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141310-skulltaker-or-kharne/page/2/#findComment-1666717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tfcdogbert Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Forgive me i dont know that much about this ;), are we talking about the inter-god wars? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141310-skulltaker-or-kharne/page/2/#findComment-1666754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Nope, just the original poster wanted to know who we thought would win in a fight, thats all, and I still think Skully would win. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141310-skulltaker-or-kharne/page/2/#findComment-1666771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tfcdogbert Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Nope, just the original poster wanted to know who we thought would win in a fight, thats all, and I still think Skully would win. No i mean the kinda sidetrack me and Naogedd were off on, i was asking what he meant by great game/war. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141310-skulltaker-or-kharne/page/2/#findComment-1666779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Oh, sorry, managed to miss that bit somehow, I'll shut up now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141310-skulltaker-or-kharne/page/2/#findComment-1666796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primarch Naogedd Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Ya, the big eternal war. How would An'ggrath the Unbound be so insanely skilled if he's only been out of the warp twice? Of course Skully+Co fight in the warp! *BACK ON TOPIC* Skully wins. All the way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141310-skulltaker-or-kharne/page/2/#findComment-1666797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyescrossed Posted August 18, 2008 Author Share Posted August 18, 2008 Yeah, for people who don't have the Daemon codex, the first thing Skulltaker did when he was created was to decapitate the first creature he saw; another bloodletter! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141310-skulltaker-or-kharne/page/2/#findComment-1667119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrike22 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Skulltaker has lived longer than 10,000 years, and isn't mortal.Another thing, if Kharne is so important wouldn't he already be a daemon prince? True but how many of those were spent fighting? We dont especially know about what happens in the warp but he will only have fought when he is taken out of the warp and cast into the material world, and there were barely any demonic incursions encountered before the heresy, im just dubious about how much of his longer life has been spent fighting. You dont know much about the land of Khorne do you? if he went out side the fortress he would probably be attacked unless the hounds are to scared of what would happen to them if they tore him to pieces. Point is that he would most likley get into way to many fights in the land og Khorne as even bloodthirsters need to tread carfully so they dont get devouerord by thousands of flesh hound. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141310-skulltaker-or-kharne/page/2/#findComment-1844327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyescrossed Posted January 15, 2009 Author Share Posted January 15, 2009 Great way to revive a dead thread ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141310-skulltaker-or-kharne/page/2/#findComment-1844334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Chaplain Astador Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Skulltaker has lived longer than 10,000 years, and isn't mortal.Another thing, if Kharne is so important wouldn't he already be a daemon prince? True but how many of those were spent fighting? We dont especially know about what happens in the warp but he will only have fought when he is taken out of the warp and cast into the material world, and there were barely any demonic incursions encountered before the heresy, im just dubious about how much of his longer life has been spent fighting. Sorry to add the the dead thread, just thought I'd throw it out that the Gods wage endless war on each other, it's in the codex, mainly under Nurgle. When one God desires more power he attacks another God, and so the cycle of killing and rebirth never ends. But Skully ftw! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141310-skulltaker-or-kharne/page/2/#findComment-1845438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrike22 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Great way to revive a dead thread ;) Why thank you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141310-skulltaker-or-kharne/page/2/#findComment-1845573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyescrossed Posted January 16, 2009 Author Share Posted January 16, 2009 You couldn't smell the sarcasm, could you? ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141310-skulltaker-or-kharne/page/2/#findComment-1845603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vassakov Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Well, as the thread has been necro'd, I'll chip in. Khârn, because he has done what no other Daemon, mortal or God has managed in 10,000 years of war. He shattered not one, but two Traitor Legion's in a single battle. Also, Skulltaker may be liquid awesome, but Khârn is only mortal. And that counts for so much more in my book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141310-skulltaker-or-kharne/page/2/#findComment-1848009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 And being mortal makes him more likely to win how? Just saying. Besides, 10000 years old and blessed by khorne, not to mention already back from the dead, is hardly mortal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141310-skulltaker-or-kharne/page/2/#findComment-1848094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castlerook Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Khârn.....Came back from the dead after quite possibly the most fierce battle in the history of humanity. Has slaughtered thousands, if not millions over the millenia. Is feared even by his own legion. Carries the most perfect chainaxe ever created. Skulltaker.....Khorne's Executioner. Decapitates things for a "living". Has killed champions and kings. Khorne lets him keep the skulls of those who gave the greatest challenge and rides a Juggernaut. Its like asking who'd win in a comicbook match up, it doesn't matter, the two would fight each other, only to find some loyalist army has wondered into the 40k Chainsaw Massacre. Both Champions are just going to scream "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD" and go crazy. Khârn does deserve to become a Daemon Prince but he doesn't want it, all he wants to do is kill, to take skulls for Khorne. Theres no challenge in it for him if he can't be killed, though he has already died once, I doubt a second time would exactly be a walk in the park for whoever wants to try. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141310-skulltaker-or-kharne/page/2/#findComment-1856830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyescrossed Posted January 25, 2009 Author Share Posted January 25, 2009 Skulltaker has lived longer than 10,000 years, and isn't mortal.Another thing, if Kharne is so important wouldn't he already be a daemon prince? True but how many of those were spent fighting? We dont especially know about what happens in the warp but he will only have fought when he is taken out of the warp and cast into the material world, and there were barely any demonic incursions encountered before the heresy, im just dubious about how much of his longer life has been spent fighting. You dont know much about the land of Khorne do you? if he went out side the fortress he would probably be attacked unless the hounds are to scared of what would happen to them if they tore him to pieces. Point is that he would most likley get into way to many fights in the land og Khorne as even bloodthirsters need to tread carfully so they dont get devouerord by thousands of flesh hound. You don't know much either, do you? Some flesh hounds wouldn't give a crap he's Khorne's sacred executioner, but they'd die to his blade any way. Also, everything in Khorne's "land" fight in gladiator style battles, and battles just randomly start, because they are Khorne's will incarnate. Also, what does the fact that Bloodthirsters need to tread carefully mean that Skulltaker would get into tons of fights? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141310-skulltaker-or-kharne/page/2/#findComment-1856849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbaron997 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Skulltaker im afraid, and not just because of the Instant Death thingy. You have to assume he is on a Juggernaut, or Chariot as noone fields them without. Everything is about equal, but Skulltaker has t5, which will help very much over the course of the battle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141310-skulltaker-or-kharne/page/2/#findComment-1856930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbaron997 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Khârn.....Came back from the dead after quite possibly the most fierce battle in the history of humanity. Has slaughtered thousands, if not millions over the millenia. Is feared even by his own legion. Carries the most perfect chainaxe ever created. Actually I think the best Chainaxe would be Gorefather, not Gorechild, based on the names more than anything else as Gorefather has never had in game rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141310-skulltaker-or-kharne/page/2/#findComment-1856936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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