Yayap40k Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 For my alpha legion army, i wanted to have cultists, but the (explicit deleted) new codex removed them for my AL to use. I want to use rules from the codex so they work out good and i wont have to explain much, so i figured i could use the lessr daemon entry. what i think is that a bunch of cultists throwing themselves at the enemy with just a ccw would kinda bring out the whole cult bit of it, and being 'summoned" to kinda go as them apearing to fight and be from the enemy's side (if this enemy is imperial). this ios quuite flawed i know, but tell me how i can fix it up or just what u use(if u use cultists). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141965-counts-as-with-cultists/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaius Darius Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 I add imperial guard allies. I also don't play tourny. Ogryns = big mutants (well, they are) Enforcers = commissars. guardlings = traitors. Conscript platoons make great cheaply armed civilians. The IG "warrior weapons" doctrine fits well too. See, the 2nd 3rd ed IG codex, as well as 2nd 3rd ed chaos codex were well written, and allowed flexibility. This makes them the two most fun codexes right now. I wish there were such a thing as placcy steel legion, they'd make awesome cultists for my IW's. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141965-counts-as-with-cultists/#findComment-1641540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Perfect! It's an idea I keep tossing around the forums, so it's neat to see someone actually liking it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141965-counts-as-with-cultists/#findComment-1641593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalrik Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Kroot Mercenaries I'm serious. http://uk.games-workshop.com/tau/kroot-list/ per RAW its legal to field them... some notes, The all infiltrating all singing all dancing Kroot can be modeled as humans. mine have various "mob" weapons to count as kroot rifles (taped up guns just silly looking things) THey are NASTY effective in CC with WS4 and STR4 and 3 attacks on the charge, oh and they're cheap too, their shaper has 3A base, and 3W's and can take power weapon if you so desire. they are just AMAZING, and fills the gap in cultists easily. -------------------------- Now the other legal option is summoned Daemons, these work ok, you can always explain the summoning as them coming out of hiding and stuff, I perfer kroot personally =) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141965-counts-as-with-cultists/#findComment-1641595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
teh_perfesser Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 For my alpha legion army, i wanted to have cultists The Lost and the Damned army list from the Eye of Terror would work well (still tourney legal in the Canada). You could paint up some Grey Knights as Alpha Legion and induct them into an Imperial Guard army. You could do the Alpha Legion as Space Marines and induct Inquisitorial Storm Troopers as Cultists or do an Inquisitorial list with inducted Space Marines as Alpha Legion. Ideally, the new Imperial Guard book would have rules for renegade guards and Chaos Marine induction... but that's just wishful thinking. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141965-counts-as-with-cultists/#findComment-1641985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 arent the kroot merc like all the "special" builds from 4th ed [ like siege company , army of death etc] automaticly illegal for play , specially tournaments ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141965-counts-as-with-cultists/#findComment-1642201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senseilord Ashahara Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I take cultists as my Count As Daemons, made largely from the Flagellants box. I also play a lost and the damned army, which incorportates Alpha Legion elements, though it does require alittle jiggery-pokery to make it work propperly. I'm also working on using the LaD codex to make a Genestealer Cult. It's a wonderfuly useful little list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141965-counts-as-with-cultists/#findComment-1644618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalrik Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 arent the kroot merc like all the "special" builds from 4th ed [ like siege company , army of death etc] automaticly illegal for play , specially tournaments ? No, the kroot list is just as legal as the blood angel's list, it was published and is still available for download via the site. The ones that get invalidated are the ones from books that refer to material no longer in print such as lost and the damned, which refer to chaos book entries that aren't there, or the eldar list in the same book for a similar reason. So Kroot mercs are entirely legal, I checked =) VIVA LA KROOT! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141965-counts-as-with-cultists/#findComment-1644637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion in the Stars Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 There's also the list out of IA5, but that's intended to be a corrupted guard army, not really the 3e Alpha Legion cultists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141965-counts-as-with-cultists/#findComment-1644775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudge Dreadnought Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Isn't there a rule with kroot mercinaries that they cannot be used against tau? Doesn't that screw you if you are proxying them as cultists? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141965-counts-as-with-cultists/#findComment-1644984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multi Marine Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Drudge sorry. There is no such rule . Makes sense fluff wise, but no such game rule , or like you said it would really poon some match ups. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141965-counts-as-with-cultists/#findComment-1645068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadfuse Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Kroot Mercenaries I'm serious. http://uk.games-workshop.com/tau/kroot-list/ per RAW its legal to field them... some notes, The all infiltrating all singing all dancing Kroot can be modeled as humans. mine have various "mob" weapons to count as kroot rifles (taped up guns just silly looking things) THey are NASTY effective in CC with WS4 and STR4 and 3 attacks on the charge, oh and they're cheap too, their shaper has 3A base, and 3W's and can take power weapon if you so desire. they are just AMAZING, and fills the gap in cultists easily. -------------------------- Now the other legal option is summoned Daemons, these work ok, you can always explain the summoning as them coming out of hiding and stuff, I perfer kroot personally =) Those 8-point snipers ain't bad, either! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141965-counts-as-with-cultists/#findComment-1646270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudge Dreadnought Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 This is making me want to do a list thats cultists (kroot), lesser daemons, and lots and lots of terminators. The entire army would infiltrate or deepstrike :P Of course it would have serious problems if the daemons came in when there were no icons on the board, so might need a rhino squad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141965-counts-as-with-cultists/#findComment-1646351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadfuse Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 This is making me want to do a list thats cultists (kroot), lesser daemons, and lots and lots of terminators. The entire army would infiltrate or deepstrike :POf course it would have serious problems if the daemons came in when there were no icons on the board, so might need a rhino squad. Get a lord with a bike and personal icon. Heh, he can be the "bait". A lone Chaos Space Marine, merrily driving down the road, gets accosted by some Imperial scum. Suddenly, out of nowhere, a bunch of cultists break in from the flanks, terminators port in from the skies, and demons start spawning everywhere. Nice. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141965-counts-as-with-cultists/#findComment-1646364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gargantuan Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 I'm currently working on a AL army (I've got a thread in the WIP forum) and will be using beastman cultists that count as regular chaos space marines. That way I can use all of the things I love about chaos in one army. Alpha Legion, beastmen and daemons. ;) (Except nurgle, but I'm saving that for WFB) They will hopefully look similar to this but with less armour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141965-counts-as-with-cultists/#findComment-1658437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roultox Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I would rather stick with the kroot allies option. What cultist do you know that is given daemonic enhancements above their patron chapter/legions thousand civillain murderers compared to some kid who just joined the cult yesterday and has higher toughness then a high gravity world dwelling deathworld jungle fighter? Ive always used Kroot merc rules for my old cultist models I bought 8 years ago. Never changed, never a bad option! Or if your dissatisfied with that, just ask to use them as Conscripts with a Chaos SPace Marine Champion + Icon of chaos Glory for the points cost listed in the Chaos Space Marine unit entry. (It is similar to old old old 3rd edition Cultists rules where the Conscript idea was first tested in chapter approved, same magazine cult terminators were implemented too) If you really want to stick to old fluff... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/141965-counts-as-with-cultists/#findComment-1658683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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