This can't be right

[Dourine]

There's a guy around here that plays tau, and he uses a bunch of auxilliaries cuz he uses the special character o'shavah. He says his auxilliaries can get a 3+ save. I know this is not right, and says he must have misread it and says it's a 4+ save. I figured "yeah, that's the basic armor of a firewarrior" However. I looked on the GW website and says they only get a 5+, and no options to upgrade their armor. I wanna make sure there's no white dwarf article or special GW page i'm missing where it says they can get better than a 5+ save before i crush my opponents spirit (he's the owner of the store and a very nice guy)

[elixin77]

best thing to do in that situation is to ask for his codex. then ask him to turn to the page where he gets said 3+ or 4+ save, and if he can't show you withing a few minutes, take you BBB and hit him across the head, and walk away. Thats what i would do at least...

[Aidoneus]

Or rather, since auxiliaries aren't in the codex, ask him to show you wherever it is the rules are printed. If he doesn't have the actual unit entry from an official GW publication, tell him he can't use the unit.

[Brother Drakk]

Human auxiliaries are actually an extention to the tau codex. Their rules were on the GW site at one point. But in game situations, if you ask for proof, he should be able to provide it upfront

[Tarrant]

Here is a link to the Tau Auxiliaries page on the GW UK website:

 

http://uk.games-workshop.com/tau/tau-auxiliaries/

 

I didn't see anything about getting 3+ saves since they seem to be IG with limited access to Tau weaponry and grenades. I think it is an interesting idea using some humans in a Tau force.

 

T.

[Souchan]

There's a guy around here that plays tau, and he uses a bunch of auxilliaries cuz he uses the special character o'shavah. He says his auxilliaries can get a 3+ save. I know this is not right, and says he must have misread it and says it's a 4+ save. I figured "yeah, that's the basic armor of a firewarrior" However. I looked on the GW website and says they only get a 5+, and no options to upgrade their armor. I wanna make sure there's no white dwarf article or special GW page i'm missing where it says they can get better than a 5+ save before i crush my opponents spirit (he's the owner of the store and a very nice guy)

 

The funny thing about that is that O'Shovah has special rules that prevent Tau Player's from using auxiliaries(well literally it says he can't use vespid or Kroot, but they are the only official auxilaries and it's easy to figure it would include any non codex ones if you want to truly stick to O'Shovahs playstyle) as well as making every thing that isn't a drone or crisis suit a 0-1 selection.

[Cyber_Wulf]

im a tau player and i have to say ive never seen a 3+ save on any auxilary...2+ cover saves on going to ground kroot but no actual ARMOUR saves of 3+. last time i read the tau human auxilaries list they were simply guardsmen with flak armour and lasguns and they cost the same. its just i dont think you needed a whole platoon of them and the squad leaders get pulse rifles if they want them or something to that effect.

[Blackraine]

It's possible that he's applying (for some wierd reason) the shaper rule to all auxillaries. Kroot shapers can give Kroot an armor save, and he may have applied this to his Human Auxillaries for whatever reason. However, it's clear by the description that the only upgrades you can give them are a couple of pulse weapons and some grenades. Also, like a previous poster said, using them with O'Shovah is completely against the intended spirit of the game, as O'Shovah hates all non-Tau races with a burning passion.