Shadow Chaplain Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 I've been reading these forums for a while and have really enjoyed the work done here. Only recently have I started sculpting on my own however and these are the results. I had the good fortune to be able to attend a sculpting tutorial with James Craig and I learned a lot of basic techniques that I have been trying in my own limited fashion to work with and then build upon. My entire chapter will be chaplain themed. I love the death masks that chaplains wear and I think an army of them would look quite imposing. I realize I've set myself a monumental task but hopefully as my skills improve so will my speed. So far I've completed two models and started a third, and I've spent a week converting and sculpting. At this rate I may be finished some time in 2045. In terms of fluff the Shadow Chapel's core belief is that the Emperor has long recovered from his wounds, and rather than safeguarding his health and extending his life the machines into which he has been plugged are in fact a prison, and the psykers sacrificed daily in the name of fuelling his radiant power are instead used as fuel to constrain his might. The Shadow Chapel believes that if the Emperor were to be freed then the enemies of the Imperium would fall before him light wheat to a scythe, and an age of peace would reign. Because peace would shatter the status quo, shake the Imperium's political structure to its very core the High Lords of Terra fear losing the status they have gained and the power they wield. The Shadow Chapel works secretly, converting chaplains from other space marine chapters to their cause, surreptitiously spreading the belief in the Emperor's imprisonment to the soldiers of the Adeptus Astartes. It is their hope that one day the Space Marines will gather together their strength and turn it inwards, tear down the walls of the Emperor's gaol and bring him once again into the light. Now for some models: My first terminator chaplain, pics of almost completed model http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd342/shadowchaplain/DSC00314.jpg http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd342/shadowchaplain/DSC00315.jpg http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd342/shadowchaplain/DSC00316.jpg Second terminator chaplain, completed model http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd342/shadowchaplain/DSC00318.jpg http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd342/shadowchaplain/DSC00320.jpg http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd342/shadowchaplain/DSC00319.jpg http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd342/shadowchaplain/DSC00321.jpg Third terminator chaplain, uncompleted, better ribcage on this one than the first. Already my skills improve! http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd342/shadowchaplain/DSC00322.jpg http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd342/shadowchaplain/DSC00323.jpg I hope you enjoy. Comments and criticisms will be welcomed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143691-the-shadow-chapel/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 Nice sculpts. I like the posing of the first. My one criticism is that the skulls are too small to contain a Marine head. Especially the head ont he first Marine. His jaw ticking out like that leaves about a grapefruit sized space in the skull helm for an actual head. Perhaps some larger skulls, a converted Chaos head, or a sculpted/converted loyalist head would work better? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143691-the-shadow-chapel/#findComment-1664780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Chaplain Posted August 15, 2008 Author Share Posted August 15, 2008 I agree about the skulls being too small to realistically contain a space marine's head. My next task will be trying to find a better option for the heads. For now though, I'm just pleased they look good. Better than I expected, actually. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143691-the-shadow-chapel/#findComment-1664786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchell93 Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 1. they look very cool 2. i agree they do need bigger skulls 3. the fluff is cool but isn't it heriticul(sp?) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143691-the-shadow-chapel/#findComment-1664804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Bannon Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 The second chaplain crozius. Although a bit small for my tastes ... YOINK! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143691-the-shadow-chapel/#findComment-1664813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
poisonfrog Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 good fluff i like that it smacks a bit of heresy, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. i like the skulls maybe they need a bit of ramping up but all in all a sick idea for an army. cant wait to see more of this grand army oi oi oi frog Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143691-the-shadow-chapel/#findComment-1664827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Chaplain Posted August 15, 2008 Author Share Posted August 15, 2008 Race Bannon, that crozius is dead simple. Chop the wings off of the little winged icon that comes with the Space Marine commander kit, then chop the heads off a thunder hammer and paste the wings on in their place. Haven't found a bit for bigger wings yet, though. And yeah, the fluff's a bit heretical... or is it? Dun dun dun. And I just realized I didn't clean the mould lines on those wings (smacks face with palm). Back to the table... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143691-the-shadow-chapel/#findComment-1664904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NemFX Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Interesting that they all have bionic heads when they are technically luddites.. I'm guessing that English isn't your first language? Just based on your writing style. Anyways, I'd love to see more of this army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143691-the-shadow-chapel/#findComment-1665143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midas Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 You stole my idea! Good Job! :huh: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143691-the-shadow-chapel/#findComment-1665152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Chaplain Posted August 16, 2008 Author Share Posted August 16, 2008 NemFX, not to be contentious but how exactly do you get the intimation from the fluff I wrote that they are luddites? Just because they think the Emperor is imprisoned doesn't mean they revile technology nor fear it. They simply think that they are being lied to about his true condition. The proper term would be "conspiracy theorists" or "paranoid". If they were luddites I'd have grabbed a kit of bretonnians and done something with them, not put them in power armour. And as to the assertion that English is my second language, I'll simply say "huh?". I use words like assertion, contentious, gaol, and surreptitiously, and I use them correctly. My grammar -although I am prone to using far too many commas as breaks in a sentence rather than let the reader insert those breaks themselves- is nigh impeccable. You are right about one thing, however. I do speak two languages; English and Bad English, like Bruce Willis. You've not seen my Bad English yet. *shakes head* English not my first language... while I appreciate the compliment that you'd like to see more of my army you couldn't have said something more insulting to me. I pride myself on my command of the English language. I used to read the freaking dictionary for fun. I get mad when people presume to tell me that irregardless is a word. Though I wonder if the reason you think that is all the extra U's in some of my words. Easy explanation. I'm Canadian. We don't pronounce our U's, but we insert them everywhere. And I'm sorry, Midas, I had no idea! If I'd realized I'd have accredited you. It's possible I saw one of your posts, got the inspiration and totally forgot. My bad! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143691-the-shadow-chapel/#findComment-1665155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Nugz Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 *ZING!* Anyway, my one complaint is that the first chaplain in messed up a bit, his ribcage could be redone if you're up to it, the head needs to be replaced, sorry but that is the truth, also the left hand needs to be replaced, you might be able to get hold of the terminator captain sword and convert that but I do not like that left hand. Also, irregardless is a word lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143691-the-shadow-chapel/#findComment-1665169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain maximus Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 are you making all your marines chaplains? then i'd suggest sticking to apoc. 1000 chaplains would be a force to be reccond with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143691-the-shadow-chapel/#findComment-1665175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Chaplain Posted August 16, 2008 Author Share Posted August 16, 2008 Maxiumus, nah, they're just going to look like chaplains, for the most part. Chaplain #2 for instance is just a close combat terminator with thunder hammer and storm shield, but his thunder hammer happens to look like a crozius. And as for the first one's ribcage, Nugz, well, you're right, 100%... but at the same time I'd like to keep it the way it is, as a marker to show where I started. I do like Chaplain #1's hand, though... I have mixed feelings about his head. I'll probably stick with him the way he is and work on improving my techniques with future models. Maybe one day I'll go back and rework it. Also *shakes fist* I'll show you irregardless! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143691-the-shadow-chapel/#findComment-1665197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qu1f Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 How is this project getting along then? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143691-the-shadow-chapel/#findComment-1667671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Richard Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 I'll pledge my crusade to your task! Free the Emperor! Abhor the witches! Great stuff...lets see more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143691-the-shadow-chapel/#findComment-1667876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Chaplain Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 Just finishing the 3rd chaplain. Haven't had time to think let alone sculpt with all the random guests dropping in from out of town and out of the woodwork. Will have pics soon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143691-the-shadow-chapel/#findComment-1668093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Vinson Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 1. Great concept 2. love the greenstuff ribbing 3. Can't wait to see painted pictures. -N Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143691-the-shadow-chapel/#findComment-1668230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gil galed Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 wow looks lush, if you want some bigger heads could you not use a classic skeleton sprue from WH, i seem to remember them having large skulls and with some skulpting it could fit in Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143691-the-shadow-chapel/#findComment-1668254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Chaplain Posted August 20, 2008 Author Share Posted August 20, 2008 They do have large heads, and I've considered them. Problem is that most of the heads have helmets on, and while this problem is not insurmountable it becomes a pain in the behind to file off a pot helmet every time I want to use a skull. Still, I'm thinking about it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143691-the-shadow-chapel/#findComment-1669170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rymeer Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Your best bet, even though tedious, is to file off the front of standard helmets and the backs of skulls and merge the two pieces for each marine's head. One time-saver option, although a bit of a hit on the wallet, is to make 3-4 good heads that you are pleased with, and then cast enough for your use using resin. Further thought about casting suggests you could file off the backs of skulls and mount them to a flat piece of heavy gauge plasticard, and cast multiples this way so you have a flat back. Do the same with various marine helmets, but filing off the fronts and mounting the filed fronts to another chunk of plasticard and cast up enough helmet backs. Then, all that is required is selecting a helmet back you like, and glueing a skull front to it and emplacing on the model (a bit of white milputty or greenstuff to hide the seams, and you are 'golden'). Just my thoughts, Rymeer P.S. Such casting, for your own use and not for resale, is NOT against GW's trademarks or copyrights. If falls under the same laws that cover making a personal use copy of something (such as making an MP3 of a song from a CD and listening to it on your Ipod). You are not in violation of law, until and unless you copy an item and sell it for monetary gain or some other form of trade-in-value, so destroy your molds or lock 'em up when finished molding your heads for your army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143691-the-shadow-chapel/#findComment-1669485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Chaplain Posted September 17, 2008 Author Share Posted September 17, 2008 Update: Haven't had a lot of time for more sculpting, but I did spend my free time in the last week or so painting a standard termie chaplain. I'm very pleased with the results as it came out light years ahead in terms of quality compared with any other miniature I've painted. I owe the success of this paint job to the people here at B+C since I've garnered so many tips and tricks from the forums here and have seen so many beautiful paint jobs that I gained a lot of insight and inspiration into the hobby. Thanks again! Without further ado, some pics! http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd342/shadowchaplain/DSC00332.jpg http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd342/shadowchaplain/DSC00333.jpg http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd342/shadowchaplain/DSC00336.jpg http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd342/shadowchaplain/DSC00337.jpg http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd342/shadowchaplain/DSC00335.jpg C+C welcome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143691-the-shadow-chapel/#findComment-1696766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matador Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 The dark purple contrasts soooo well with the pink head...Dreamy. The only thing that I'd reconsider is the edging of the base. I'd go for either a standard black, or another like dark color, or maybe even pick out some of the color from the sand. It just looks to "matchy-matchy" for me. Otherwise, Kudos. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143691-the-shadow-chapel/#findComment-1696809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 im not gonna lie, the colors look very slanneshi to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143691-the-shadow-chapel/#findComment-1696823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wolf of the end Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 well as beauty, so does heresy lies into the eye of the beholder :D seriously: some greenstuff work looks rather "chunky" and without clearly defined outlines while on other parts it looks very smooth. It's obvious that you have the skill...so keep up the good work Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143691-the-shadow-chapel/#findComment-1696861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skull_Lord Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 NOO, the Chaplain is the Joker! Seriously though, theres only three things about the chaplain i dont like; 1. his Joker-Face 2. The skin-ish colour on the partchment 3. the orange in the barrels Other than that, hes amazing, makes me want to start on my first company.... Also i like the Chaplain-theme of the army, and your conversions, keep up the good work Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143691-the-shadow-chapel/#findComment-1696883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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