Big Mek GrabNutz Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 hello (hopefully) fellow cultits! ive always been attracted by the red corsairs...feel. i cant realy say fluff as i hevent read any on them...yet. but anyway, i digress. having looked through the chaos codex, it appears that chaos space marines cannot take drop pods? is this correct? and if so, why? i can understand if its like the assault cannon, where it was invented AFTER the heresy. but then, it doesent realy make sense seeing as the red corsairs went to chaos after the heresy. so im wondering, should i represent my renegade army with the new marine codex? it would have its benefits, namely, drop pods (which i LOVE), chaos cultists (traitor guard) represented by imperial guard conscripts, and a guard HQ etc... etc... but. it has problems aswell. i try to run armies very much by fluff, and to me, traitor marines with "and they shall know no fear" doesent realy do it for me. simmilar problems arise. so, here would be my idea. a mix between the two? something quite simple, like being able to take drop pods and guard allies? but would this be too overpowered... help me brothers! i mean fellow deamon-worshipping scum! i mean...ugh...forget it. thanks for all advice given. PS: having drop pods in the army is pretty mandatory, as they fit my playstyle Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143932-a-drop-pod-chaos-army/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornelias Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 just use the forge world "dreadclaw" rules, can't remember offhand which IA book they are in tho sorry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143932-a-drop-pod-chaos-army/#findComment-1667834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 IA: 2006 I believe. And IA: Apocalypse. Also, in the upcoming IA: 6. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143932-a-drop-pod-chaos-army/#findComment-1667909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 It is correct that C:csm's can not take drop pods. I don't know why this is (other then game ballance ) b/c drop pods were around durning battle of Istavan III & IV (very begaining of heresy). Or were those thunderhawks ?? I believe I remember them (still loyal LW's) watching the drop pods of chaos LW's come down like falling stars on Istavan III. But as the OP said, the RC's are very post heresy anyway, and prety much make a living robbing the loyalist as well. I think it would be OK to run RC using the upcoming C:s/m, as you said they are recent converts so in many ways would be quite like reg s/m's. I don't think you can use IG (traitor or otherwise) when using the C:s/m, yea sure in apoc, but pretty much anything goes there, so who cares ? As for ATSKNF.. has that be replaced by combat tactics or is combat tactics in addition to ATSKNF ?? You still have some options, sallies have combat tactics replaced by making every melta & flamer count as TL'ed. Another chapter or spec character replaces combat tactics w/ stubborn. You can decide which one might better represent the RC's. I would not take things like landspeders and LR varients and assault cannons and the conversion beamer thing. You could make an arguement that the RC's just stole those from the s/m and learn to use them, but then I think you would lose all feel of it being a chaos army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143932-a-drop-pod-chaos-army/#findComment-1668090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 but then, it doesent realy make sense seeing as the red corsairs went to chaos after the heresy dont try to find sense in the chaos dex we have now . Its neither a chaos legion nor a chaos reneged book . as others said chaos does use drop pods and even more offten the supeiror dread claws , but there are just no GW rules for that [unless we are talking about IA] . ah and conversion beamers [unless GW decides to change it in the new fluff] is very old weapon . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143932-a-drop-pod-chaos-army/#findComment-1668181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mek GrabNutz Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 well, this was the sort of army list i would like: chaos champion-100 pts tops a few obliterators, as i love there fluff, plus wuld provide fire support 10 CSMs in drop pod 10 CSMs in drop pod 9 CSMs in drop pod commander would be attached to these 10 traitor guard represented by the lost and the damned rules 10 traitor guard represented by the lost and the damned rules of course, this is in skeleton form at the moment thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143932-a-drop-pod-chaos-army/#findComment-1668329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Well as I said you can't use traitor guard in 40k, only apoc games. The LatD book A. could never be combined w/ C:s/m and B. is no longer a valid book anyway. Also if your using C:s/m's, there are no oblits in it, which you have put in your army. You can't mix and match from different books like that (except in apco games) - I one had a guy I was about to play, try to put eldar vehicles in a DE army. He had the models and everything. I had to shoot down that idea pretty fast :) he looked stunned and disappointed when I said that there was no way that was going to happen :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143932-a-drop-pod-chaos-army/#findComment-1668386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mek GrabNutz Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 well, the reason why that is so outragous is because eldar and dark eldar have been in a war against eachother for centuries, there completely different, wether chaos marines and cultits are basicly fighting for the same thing, or at the very least have the same enemy. plus the fact that i wouldent be using this list in tourneys, only in freindly games, and i think ill be okay. oh and also, they have traitor guard with CSMs in white dwarf july edition. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143932-a-drop-pod-chaos-army/#findComment-1668712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Well if your friends let you use IG in you're marine army, you guys can allow whatever you all agree on. I don't think you would get by with it outside of your own group though, even in friendly games. Our group wouldn't allow it for example, and those are friendly games. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143932-a-drop-pod-chaos-army/#findComment-1668752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarulek Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 plus the fact that i wouldent be using this list in tourneys, only in freindly games, and i think ill be okay. oh and also, they have traitor guard with CSMs in white dwarf july edition. That was a army list for doubles. Basically 1000 points of troops split in two fraction who would be likely to team up. In this case 500 points Chaos Marines and 500 pts. traitor guard using standard guard rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143932-a-drop-pod-chaos-army/#findComment-1668875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mek GrabNutz Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 plus the fact that i wouldent be using this list in tourneys, only in freindly games, and i think ill be okay. oh and also, they have traitor guard with CSMs in white dwarf july edition. That was a army list for doubles. Basically 1000 points of troops split in two fraction who would be likely to team up. In this case 500 points Chaos Marines and 500 pts. traitor guard using standard guard rules. i understand that, but because the lists were sent in beforehand, and were not randomly paired, it furthers my point that the two can ally. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143932-a-drop-pod-chaos-army/#findComment-1668998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Stalker Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 well, in apocalypse you could use marine pod for your chaos forces. also in apoc you could useIG as traitor guard downside: need to play 3000+ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143932-a-drop-pod-chaos-army/#findComment-1669085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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