5th Ed. Counter Attack Rule

[Aerotopdog]

The wording on the new counter-attach rule is confusing...

Say you have a chaplain attached to a command squad with chapter banner. In a turn where you are assaulted, would you get to re-roll misses? Would the same apply to furious assault? The rule says, "exactly as if they had assaulted."

Thanks for clearing this up.

[ObsidianIchor]

Reading the entire wording of the "Counter-Attack" universal special rule, it does not appear to be the intent of Counter-attack to allow anything but +1 Attacks when charged. The wording is very specific and says "If the test is successful, all models in the unit get the +1 assault bonus to their attacks, as if they too had assaulted that turn." To me, this doesn't leave room for any bonuses other than +1 attacks.

 

Obviously, the change is made because all assaulted units essentially get the 4th edition counter-attack rule as the standard ruleset.

 

Also, this should probably be moved to the Official Rules forum.

[Zealous]

Yeah, that seems pretty clear to me too. Just adding my opinion to add weight to ObsidianIchor's solution. The fragment "exactly as if they too had assaulted that turn," is a corollary of the "Defenders React" rule (pg 34, BRB), added to explain why they'll get the bonus attacks.

 

Really, it should have read "when a unit with this rule makes a Defenders React movement as a result of an enemy charge..." and then continue as normal. Then they also could have left out the exception for when the Counter-attack rule cannot be used.

[HotSoup]

The thing with chapter banner squads is you get +2 attacks when charged under the new rules. You get the COunter Attack special rules, and +1 attacks. Enjoy your pwnage.

[maniclurker]

Chapter banner.... here I come.