Doctor Thunder Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Okay, those of us who went to Games Day got a limited edition marine commander holding a thunder hammer with both hands. I was ready to just give mine away, until someone challenged me to use it to make a Black Widow HQ model. Since there were copies of the new space marine codex for us to peruse through, I quickly settled on the best special character for me to use when I transition the Widows over to using the new marine codex. Vulkan He'stan. Wait, you say all my free flamers and multi-meltas will count as twin liked? Why, yes, please, and may I have some more? Anyway, he has a lot of weapons to mimick, so I went diving through my bitz drawers. The Relic Blade was easily enough represented by a Grey Knight Nemisis Force Weapon, and what better to represent a 3+ invulnerable save then a big 'ol storm shield? Since her hands are already filled, I mounted the heavy flamer over her shoulder, Ad-Mech style, with a converted devastator backpack to hold the promethium. I also gave her a leftover banner from a commander box set, which will give some room for some nice freehand. Anyway, enjoy the pics. She's primed and ready to be painted at this point. As always, click on the thumbnail to see a larger pic. http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h261/DoctorThunder/Black%20Widows/th_DSC01370.jpg http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h261/DoctorThunder/Black%20Widows/th_DSC01371.jpg http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h261/DoctorThunder/Black%20Widows/th_DSC01372.jpg http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h261/DoctorThunder/Black%20Widows/th_DSC01374.jpg http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h261/DoctorThunder/Black%20Widows/th_DSC01375.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144703-games-day-mini-coverted-to-black-widows-female-warlord/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Although i'am not a real fan of Female SPacemarines i have to say its an excellent mini. Keep going. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144703-games-day-mini-coverted-to-black-widows-female-warlord/#findComment-1677103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trajan Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Good conversion job, Thunder. Now get her painted!! :lol: -Trajan Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144703-games-day-mini-coverted-to-black-widows-female-warlord/#findComment-1677108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wokkers Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 magnificent as always doc. i look forward to seeing it painted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144703-games-day-mini-coverted-to-black-widows-female-warlord/#findComment-1677128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilnar Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 whatever anyone tells you,,, these are awsome:P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144703-games-day-mini-coverted-to-black-widows-female-warlord/#findComment-1677159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImperialTemplari Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Great job Doctor Thunder, a marine to be proud off Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144703-games-day-mini-coverted-to-black-widows-female-warlord/#findComment-1677163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skull_Lord Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Awesome Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144703-games-day-mini-coverted-to-black-widows-female-warlord/#findComment-1677177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_bunny Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 best one so far! Loving that conversion, and, NO piggy tails :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144703-games-day-mini-coverted-to-black-widows-female-warlord/#findComment-1677249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 love it :wacko: how bout a tut for the chest area ;) EDIT: Apparently my chapter master is her male counterpart http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x127/TerminatorOfHellsing/DSC00608.jpg (he looks like a statue :/ always did from his forst construct.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144703-games-day-mini-coverted-to-black-widows-female-warlord/#findComment-1677317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Los Morte Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 when you went to gamesday you "got" it? did you get it at the door for having a ticket, or did you have to purchase it? i remember yrs ago, when i went, they'd give you a free mini with the stub off your ticket. then i went this yr and they're making you pay for it? :cuss... needless to say, i didnt purchase it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144703-games-day-mini-coverted-to-black-widows-female-warlord/#findComment-1677439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Thunder Posted August 31, 2008 Author Share Posted August 31, 2008 They gave it to us for free at the door. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144703-games-day-mini-coverted-to-black-widows-female-warlord/#findComment-1677539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiStudios Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Awesome use of bits, as always can't wait to see the fully painted article. This has got me thinking how I can best use the Gd figure for my pre-heresy DA's :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144703-games-day-mini-coverted-to-black-widows-female-warlord/#findComment-1677670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Thunder Posted September 1, 2008 Author Share Posted September 1, 2008 Thanks, bro. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144703-games-day-mini-coverted-to-black-widows-female-warlord/#findComment-1678492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglespuss Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 "They gave it to us for free at the door" Seriously?! we gotta pay for it here in the UK, this time its a compulsary part of the ticket price! (£30 rather than £25). I like the model, but don't think people should 'have' to buy it, especially if they are non-marine. If you guys get it for free, thats really not on :< Anyway, to the model, great looking, not a fan of female marines per se (they just don't/can't exist as you know) but you've created a very cool looking model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144703-games-day-mini-coverted-to-black-widows-female-warlord/#findComment-1678609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Thunder Posted September 1, 2008 Author Share Posted September 1, 2008 Anyway, to the model, great looking Thanks. :) not a fan of female marines per se (they just don't/can't exist as you know) As I know? :D I think they can exist in 40K, but that discussion is beyond the scope of this thread, so I'll just say I respectfully disagree with your Fannon and leave it at that. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144703-games-day-mini-coverted-to-black-widows-female-warlord/#findComment-1678720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglespuss Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 LOL, that wasn't topic for discussion as you stated in your post, I was merely elucidating on the fact, as it is Cannon. Anyway great mini, and no sarcasm was intended. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144703-games-day-mini-coverted-to-black-widows-female-warlord/#findComment-1678798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hajime Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 How you do those Chest pieces, I like to do a single Mini in Homage to P*R*I*m*A*R*c*S. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144703-games-day-mini-coverted-to-black-widows-female-warlord/#findComment-1748169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Thunder Posted October 27, 2008 Author Share Posted October 27, 2008 The chest pieces? They're just sculpted with green stuff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144703-games-day-mini-coverted-to-black-widows-female-warlord/#findComment-1748182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hajime Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I see, my question remains rather unanswered tough How do you do them. I could randomly attempt this but I rather get a better idea on how to do it right. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144703-games-day-mini-coverted-to-black-widows-female-warlord/#findComment-1748218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Thunder Posted October 27, 2008 Author Share Posted October 27, 2008 1) Start with regular marine legs and the back half of the torso. 2) Create a cylinder of green stuff that will form the waist, but bring it all the way up to the neck 3) Wrap a long sausage around the chest of the torso, use your sculpting tool to cleft the clevage, then shape it smooth with wet tools or fingers. Once it is set, use your exacto knife to trim the bottom edge so that it is nice and angular 4) Create the abdomen plates one layer at a time. Allow each plate to set completely, then use an exacto knife to cut it to sharp angles. 5) Use a little sausage to make the front half of the neck collar. Once it is set, trim it flat on top with your exacto knife. 6) Shave a jewel off of an eldar fig and place it in the center of the chest. 7) Use your exacto to trim down the back of the marine torso so that it is flush with the sides of the new waist. Hope that helps. :unsure: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144703-games-day-mini-coverted-to-black-widows-female-warlord/#findComment-1748250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hajime Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Thank you very much! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144703-games-day-mini-coverted-to-black-widows-female-warlord/#findComment-1748262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ompfris Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Nice mini..... get it painted! are you doing another converted marine with the parts left over? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144703-games-day-mini-coverted-to-black-widows-female-warlord/#findComment-1748338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Thunder Posted October 27, 2008 Author Share Posted October 27, 2008 Possibly. I was thinking it might be fun to do a female version of Pedro Cantor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144703-games-day-mini-coverted-to-black-widows-female-warlord/#findComment-1749068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hajime Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 That does sound interesting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144703-games-day-mini-coverted-to-black-widows-female-warlord/#findComment-1749582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morte Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 As much as I like your work, Thunder, I've got a bit of a gripe about your depiction of female marines. Power armor is supposed to be something like inches thick, completely surrounding torso; terminator armor even more so. If that's the case, why oh why did you have to model all of your Black Widows with utterly massive sculpted boobs? It seems that there could be so many different ways to convey that the marines in the suit are female; a reduced head profile, Sabbat-pattern helmets like the Sisters of Battle, a slimmer body and arms, or even just a female head-swap. Ridiculously huge boobs is probably the worst way to convey femininity; it it's really more reminiscent of Bob from Fight Club than it is of a female amazon type warrior. Please don't take this as negative criticism; I have a lot of respect for your work and I think a lot of it is topnotch. I'm just wondering about your particular interpretation of female marines, and why you chose to model them in that particular way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144703-games-day-mini-coverted-to-black-widows-female-warlord/#findComment-1749599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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