Keldoth of Khorne Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Is there any proof that alpharius is dead, ever since the book legion came out i have fallen in love with the alpha leigon and looked everywhere on the web to find out wether alpharius is dead. Most peaple say roberte gulliman killed him which is possible but it then goes on to say with 1 stroke of his sword!!! That bit i dont belive so is there any proof that he is alive and is omegdon alive becouse i couldnt find anything on him!!! NOTHING!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144726-alpha-legion/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lay Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 No real proof that they're alive. No real proof that they're dead. Just speculation That's how the Legion rolls. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144726-alpha-legion/#findComment-1677384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dammeron Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 That's one of the nice things about the Alpha Legion; there's very little in the way of certainty with regards to their history, loyalties or intentions, especially since Legion came out. The old Index Astartes article suggests that ONE of the brothers may PERHAPS have been slain by Roboute Guilliman, but as the article itself points out, that is actually impossible to verify. My guess is that at least one of the brothers is alive somewhere, probably prevailing over the council that coordinates the Alpha Legion's movements throughout the galaxy. Only speculation mind... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144726-alpha-legion/#findComment-1677433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 as much as I like the AL and all there is no way a primarch could use a stand in against his own brother or the emperor , they shared a special psychi link . Before the horus heresy book it ment that alfarius did die [and thats what Chambers have been saying at seminars] , after this it means that one of them did . I could also explain why the AL went chaos in the end , living without his twin can make people do very drastic things. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144726-alpha-legion/#findComment-1677504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eiric Hakon Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Nothing to say that one's dead, nothing realy to say that one isn't. Exept that thr ultras deny having killed one and the person who said it was an alpha legion mole....thats what I've gathered anyway Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144726-alpha-legion/#findComment-1677505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allerka Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Legion does definitely muddy it up a bit. At best for the Imperium, one of the twins is dead, with the other still leading things. At worst, is was the stand-in fellow (whose name I forget at the moment), and both are still running around. One has to wonder just what exactly they're trying to accomplish now, since they (presumably) switched sides to help Horus win, but he didn't, yet they still fight the Imperium... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144726-alpha-legion/#findComment-1677580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherLoki Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Since the account of the battle on Eskrador mentionaed in the IA article wasn't in the Ultramarines' records, and was later discredited when the inquisitor who 'discovered' it was unmasked as a probable Alpha Legion agent, its incredibly difficult to work out what might or might not have happened. In some ways, I hope its never answered, as ambiguity and misdirection are what the Alphas are all about. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144726-alpha-legion/#findComment-1679258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Twomoons Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 index astartes that contains the AL history says Alpharius (sorry it spelled wrong) was killed and burned by the Ultras as for a Twin...wth!? i've only ever read of one primarch per legion..when did Big Al get a bro? i haven't touched the Horus Herecy books yet if thats where its mentioned plz explain :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144726-alpha-legion/#findComment-1690249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 index astartes that contains the AL history says Alpharius (sorry it spelled wrong) was killed and burned by the Ultras as for a Twin...wth!? i've only ever read of one primarch per legion..when did Big Al get a bro? i haven't touched the Horus Herecy books yet if thats where its mentioned plz explain :tu: That's where it's mentioned, in Legion, by Mr Abnett. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144726-alpha-legion/#findComment-1690363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deneris Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Legion does definitely muddy it up a bit. At best for the Imperium, one of the twins is dead, with the other still leading things. At worst, is was the stand-in fellow (whose name I forget at the moment).... That name was Sheed Ranko, who was "master of the Alpha's Terminator elite, was an especially large Astartes, who doubled well for both Omegon and Lord Alpharius in diplomatic circumstances." (Quote from Legion) I'd wager it was actually Sheed that Gulliman slew "with one strike"... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144726-alpha-legion/#findComment-1690543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Legion does definitely muddy it up a bit. At best for the Imperium, one of the twins is dead, with the other still leading things. At worst, is was the stand-in fellow (whose name I forget at the moment).... That name was Sheed Ranko, who was "master of the Alpha's Terminator elite, was an especially large Astartes, who doubled well for both Omegon and Lord Alpharius in diplomatic circumstances." (Quote from Legion) I'd wager it was actually Sheed that Gulliman slew "with one strike"... ...Assuming that battle occurred at all Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144726-alpha-legion/#findComment-1690666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherLoki Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Or that they were ever on Eskrador, or that Eskrador even exists... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144726-alpha-legion/#findComment-1690811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lay Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Or that they were ever on Eskrador, or that Eskrador even exists...The ambiguous data log was found in a system near Eskrador, so the planet itself does exist. Not to mention that Eskrador was purged in the months that followed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144726-alpha-legion/#findComment-1690832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Wha... in that novel there are two Primarch twins, called "Alpharius" and "Omegon"? What the f... That has got to be the most ridiculous black library bullsh*t ever created. I mean, seriously. Twins? I mean, the whole thing with novels about the horus heresy and the primarchs was a really bad idear to begin with, but they are not even taking it serious appearently. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144726-alpha-legion/#findComment-1690858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherLoki Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 On the contrary. I think its a fantastic idea. Alpharius/Omegon was the last primarch to be made, as well as found, the new improved model - 2 for the price of 1. Something none of his brother primarchs know (and possibly not even the Emperor himself - it's never made clear). Deception taken to the highest level. Abnett can do no wrong. He's done more to add depth to the 40kverse than all the other writers put together. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144726-alpha-legion/#findComment-1690873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 I love Abnetts Ghost series, but this is just weak. I mean, I know GW often "borrows" from popular culture ("Konrad Curze", who lets himself be killed by "M'Shen", an agent of his former master, to prove a point?), but "The Prestige" wasn't even that good of a movie, and the "twin" twist was all it was really built upon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/144726-alpha-legion/#findComment-1691048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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