LOS through models, 0 Attack models, No retreatin!

[WarpSpawn]

Not that hard. As I said, an ork mob did it.

[maniclurker]

It is pretty hard actually. I've personally had loota mobs shoot through two 30 boy mobs at a squad of my marines. I went and checked the LOS myself. Between legs, arms, and heads, you could see parts of the model. Such as half a head here, or a foot there. Like I said, a laser pointer really helps with this. However, if it truly blocked all LOS to any part of any model in that squad, then he shouldn't have been able to shoot.

[WarpSpawn]

OK, I admit, this was just a visual inspection, but a fairly thorough one all the same. Looked like a fairly solid wall of orks to both of us. If it takes a laser pointer to pick out a marine's little toe, or similar, I'm not sure I would take the shot myself, though I cannot speak for the guy playing orks. That's just personal feeling though, not RAW.

 

As I said before as well though, I'm in 100% agreement about the LoS. No see, no shoot (with the exception of what should be known as the "down in front" rule).

[Brother_Kluft]

I too believe that transfixing gaze works on 1+ number of models.

 

 

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Proof :

 

Assumption : "Any" refers to a single entity

 

Fact 1 : pg 11 of the BGB, 2nd paragraph, regarding movement states....

"In his turn, a player may move any of his unit - all of them if he wishes"

 

By assumption and Fact 1--> you may only move 1 unit in the movement phase.

 

Clearly this is nonsense (further backed up by the phrase -"all of them if you wish")

 

Therefore the assumption is negated.

 

Therefore the negation of the assumption is correct

 

Therefore "Any" refers to 0 or more entities.

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Excuse my terseness , but laying out a "logical style" proof i believe most clearly shows the issue.