Pre-Heresy White Scar

[Iacton]

Right, I guess that I've put this guy off for long enough now. It's time to do my take on a White Scar - Br. Harold.

 

You may have got a sneaky peaky a little while back of the constructed mini with the converted Mk4 helm, Here it is again...

 

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/Iacton/White%20Scar/WIP1.jpg

 

He was primed back in the infamous white spray incident, but appears to have come off relatively unscathed.

The painting that I intend to use on this model relates largely to an article by Cyril A, a little while ago, in case this method looks familiar to anyone ;)

 

I began the many layers that will make this white scar appear "white" whilst not looking like I've just broken out the skull white and used a bit of clever lighting to get a finish.

1st thing was tidy up the missed white bits in the primer.

Next a couple of washes of black wash mixed with thinned codex grey, after that some more washing with sepia.

Once dry, I built up the shade with more thin codex grey in 2 or 3 translucent layers, added some white to the mix and repeated the process,moving towards the light more, and then added some more.

The effect that has been achieved so far is a fairly strong shade with colour filter from the sepia peaking through.

 

So far so good...

 

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/Iacton/White%20Scar/WIP2.jpg

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/Iacton/White%20Scar/DetailsWIP1.jpg

[Reyner]

Lookin good ;) I am using a very similar technique for my marines

[Vash113]

The painting is coming along well, but as for MKIV the helm is not a bad conversion but the chest and legs aren't MKIV.

[Arch«•»Angel]

if this is going to be as awesome as your recent paint jobs, i think i might scream like a girl.

[Iacton]

The painting is coming along well, but as for MKIV the helm is not a bad conversion but the chest and legs aren't MKIV.

 

OK. I'm not sure how it could be more Mk4? ;)

The knee pads have been re-shaped to suit on the legs and the chest is the Mk4 style one. As for the helm, it's a quick scrape off and GS job.

[Angels_Blade]

I agree with Iacton, thats about as close to mk4 you could get without working for the mechanicus. People love to be critical but no one ever backs up their claims!

 

The only legs without kneepads are mk6 corvus pattern according to the most recent SM codex. Thats neither by nor by, it looks ace!

[Iacton]

Quickie piccies of Harold. Done the white up to near final highlight, now going to tone it back down a bit. White, how complicated?.... go figure :devil:

 

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/Iacton/White%20Scar/WIP4.jpg

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/Iacton/White%20Scar/WIP3.jpg

 

Oh, and I bought a mini photo studio thing off ebay for £35 including light tent, camera stand, 2 lights and backgrounds! How happy am I with that?! ^_^

 

Have also done the shades overnight, just want to tidy up the chalky blends a bit.

 

Did I mention how much I hate GW white spray? <_<

[Megalodon]

The mini is looking good so far!

 

I agree with Iacton, thats about as close to mk4 you could get without working for the mechanicus. People love to be critical but no one ever backs up their claims!

No need to be rude.

 

I didn't make the comment, but I'll back it up on the breast plate. There should be (for lack of a better term) no "belt buckle/box" at the waist the breast plate should drop down in the center and cover this area.

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v673/EasyEight/mk4_maximus.jpg

See what I mean?

 

The chest used is similar to a Mk V heresy armor chest.

 

To be honest don't I think it matters anyway.

[Iacton]

I think that you are right, but at the same time that is only one style of Mk4. Certainly the old metal sculpts don't all have that drop down groin guard.

 

Anyway,

 

Quick Pic Update... off out to dinner!

 

Whites basically done then blocked in some red and the base for NMM

 

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/Iacton/White%20Scar/WIP5.jpg

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/Iacton/White%20Scar/WIP6.jpg

 

;)

[Hubernator]

Funky stuff :) I like it. The red could be a little more red, it looks a little on the pink side. Nice work so far :D

[L0NEW0LF]

top job so far mate, the red is a great contrast to the off-white.

the combat shield/bolt pistol combo does work a treat too!

i'm not too sure if the spear is a bit long, i think he might have been more balanced with a sword (sabre)

[BrianBlessed]

Looking really cool, the freehand is great I'm rubbish at doing thunderbolts myself. Can't wait to see what you do on the shield :P

[Vash113]

I think that you are right, but at the same time that is only one style of Mk4. Certainly the old metal sculpts don't all have that drop down groin guard.

 

Actually they do, MK IV Armor always has that extended chest plate. The chest you are using is MK V, heresy armor. Its not a difference between styles of each mark, MK IV's torsos all have the extended chest, and there are plenty of available models, like the following:

 

Red Scorpions Vanguard in MK IV Armor

Red Scorpions Veterans in MK IV Armor

Armour Through the Ages The model on the far right is wearing MK IV and though the bolter blocks it the model has the extended chest plate. The model to the left of the MK IV suit is MK V Heresy Armor.

Black Templar Upgrade Sprue The lower non-tabbarded chest plate is MK IV, the BT symbol is raised on the extended segment of the armor as well.

Marneus Calgar & Honor Guard The Chapter Ancient (Standard Bearer) is wearing MK IV with a different helmet.

EDIT: Forgot One Chaplain Cassius Good old Cassius is wearing a full suit of MK IV minus helmet.

 

I agree with Iacton, thats about as close to mk4 you could get without working for the mechanicus. People love to be critical but no one ever backs up their claims!

 

Look don't rag on me, I assumed since the wonderful Librarium is right at everyone's fingertips I wouldn't have to do the research for you. The image Megalodon posted is right, and the information is readily at hand:

 

Index Astartes: Adeptus Astartes Power Armour

Armour of the Adeptus Astartes

 

Research is important and while the model is nice, it is not MK IV armor I'm afraid. There aren't multiple versions of each mark either, the torso used is MK V, not Mark IV. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

 

Anyway that aside it is a fantastic paint job.

[Rossco]

I'm not fussed at all about how exactly Mk4 this may or may not be, lets get our priorities right gentlemen, this is a really fantastic piece of work you can clearly see that ALOT of hard work, good planning, patience and old fashioned talent have gone into making a great mini ! , so it's not spot on Mk4, but it is great isn't it ? :D

[ImperialTemplari]

Hi Iacton, we will have to call these threads Iacton's masterclass soon, another great job. 2 :D

[Sons of Horus]

nice as usual but how can this be the last of those pre-heresy minis B) we want more :P

[daemon*hunter]

I'm not fussed at all about how exactly Mk4 this may or may not be, lets get our priorities right gentlemen, this is a really fantastic piece of work you can clearly see that ALOT of hard work, good planning, patience and old fashioned talent have gone into making a great mini ! , so it's not spot on Mk4, but it is great isn't it ? :huh:

I agree!

 

So, one minor thing is wrong! Whats the problem with that? it looks good, its painted well, you people just always have to complain! Your never happy!

 

And now im bored, so ill stop complaining.

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I think it looks good ;)

[Vash113]

So, one minor thing is wrong! Whats the problem with that? it looks good, its painted well, you people just always have to complain! Your never happy!

 

Well criticism can be constructive after all, at least everyone whose seen this thread now knows what MK IV actually looks like. Its not good to just have everyone gape open mouthed and go "wow" everytime a nice model is posted. As for whats the matter with it, such care and work and such a wonderful paint job are nice to see, but its sad that the desired armor type wasn't pulled off when the information is so very easy to come by. The Librarium doesn't help if nobody uses it. Hopefully its a lesson for everyone to take the time to look up the correct information before undertaking a project.

[Iacton]

Ok, lets shoot straight through this...

 

Vash113, thanks for the input on this. I understand the point that you are making, quite eloquently and perhaps I should consider myself admonished accordingly - 100 Hail Imperators for me, plus an hour with the pain glove - however, I will say that I base a great proportion of my work on the HH Visions art books, within which there are myriad alternative styles of the armour marks.

My own take on it, for what it's worth, is that the Mk5 chestplate has more cabling than this part, but I don't want to drag the point on any further, so we'll draw a line under that whole shebang, please.

 

Hubernator, thanks, I think that the red is off due to a bit of over exposure, at the moment that red is Mechrite red mixed with scab red, and that's all, so if anything it's a deep rich scarlet colour. I hate taking pictures of red for this reason. It just never seems to colour up correctly on the PC. Once the red is complete with shade and highlights, I'll make a point of getting the photos accurate colourwise ;)

 

L0NEW0LF, thanks. The spear/glaive thing is a bit unwieldy, but I can't be arsed to change it now to be honest.

 

BrianBlessed, thanks for the help, I shall get that planned out soon.

 

Rossco, thanks for your kind words. Not being a gamer maybe most of my models are not totally correct for a WYSIWYG situation anyway. I just like converting and building models to give them character, and then, of course, giving them a good quality paint job.

 

ImperialTemplari, thanks for the thumbs ^_^ I'm pleased with my own progression through this project, so it has been as much a school day for me as anyone who has read the threads for the models. To get a finalist spot at Games Day last week though made it all worthwhile :D

 

Sons of Horus - It's not the end of Pre-heresy modelling for me. It's just that I will have done a marine for each of the 1st founding. I do plan to revisit one or two of the legions, but I have several new irons in the fire after concentrating on one project for so long.

 

I was asked the same thing at the Great Crusade, so I may as well quote myself, because I type really slowly :D

 

1 is going to be my take on some of the main HH characters, including the Primarchs that I still need to work on. I intend to tackle a bit of true scaling there.

 

2 is a little "fun" project to get me toshing a bit of paint on the old RT models again, and that is the Badab War legions. There's lots of lovely colour schemes there ^_^

 

3 I have a couple of non-GW comissions to attend to shortly

 

4 I REALLY want to push my skills on with models that haven't got power armour on! So I intend also to lob out the odd WHFB model or even Warmachine, Reaper or Hasslefree stuff.

 

5 The odd current marine. There's a whole new range to play with and I don't want to not do certain sculpts just because they aren't PH.

 

I don't want to make one of these grand declarations that I'm going to complete x amount of models by whenever, but I guess that there will be less WIP stuff here.

 

daemon*hunter, thanks, hope you're not so bored now :lol:

 

Thanks for all of the input, guys.

 

I am quite honoured that my work provokes reaction, even if it's not always "positive", at least it's constructive.

 

Hopefully he will be finished soon, and then my next marine (Character) model that I have planned will be a little while coming after that. ;)

 

[/essay], phew!

 

And relax! :tu:

[Iacton]

Progress...

 

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/Iacton/White%20Scar/WIP7.jpg

 

I've abbreviated the glaive a bit, done a load of red stuff and a load of NMM too. Had a go at a bit of SE-NMM to the front chest grille and the backpack skull, plus hints of it in the wrist clamp thingy.

 

Also just started to block in the design to the shield, but there's a LONG way to go on that right now! (Thanks BB ;) )

 

C&C music factory :D

[Vodunius]

There aren't multiple versions of each mark either

 

So why do almost all the links you've posted show MkIV armour with noticably different helmets?

 

That said I am inclined to go with Vash about it being a MkV torso (albeit of a different version from the more common one), still its an amazing White Scar however.

[drizzt73]

wow nice work! any chance of some step by steps on the nmm?

 

Cheers

[Alys Dwr]

lovely work, but i think the colour choice on the senmm is wrong. The model is mostly white and the metals are approaching that in places. They blend in too easily, i really had to squint to see if they had been painted for these pics.

 

Al

[Iacton]

lovely work, but i think the colour choice on the senmm is wrong. The model is mostly white and the metals are approaching that in places. They blend in too easily, i really had to squint to see if they had been painted for these pics.

 

Al

 

 

You may be right, but I also do rather need to work on the lighting setup in my new light tent! ;)

 

I think that the colours work out more blue to the NMM - in fact there is no white used at all - SW grey instead.

 

Unfortunately the pics are a bit over exposed - I shall have to correct it all for the finished article ;)

[-Morkar-]

That WS is really nice but I think that the free hand job of the shield reduces the quality of the work.

 

Appart from that, well done ;)