northoceanbeach Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 It says that if the squad takes jump packs, the vanguard veteran squad cannot shoot or run that turn but can assault if they are close enough. If you take shrike you all get fleet. Can they fleet and then assault after ds'ing? Thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146598-vanguard-heroic-assault/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 A very important difference is the terminology difference in 4th and 5th. A unit can no longer "fleet". Fleet is now an ability not a verb. The unit can "run" and if it has fleet then it can assault after the run. Its a tiny anally-retentive thing, but it will help clear up confusion for people not 100% with the rules yet. Also, as far as im aware you can run instead of shooting. If you're not allowed to shoot, then it follows you are not allowed to run. However if im mistaken about the run being instead of shooting then there is precedence for you running (and then charging) as regular deepstriking units can still run after the strike. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146598-vanguard-heroic-assault/#findComment-1700604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
northoceanbeach Posted September 20, 2008 Author Share Posted September 20, 2008 This rule specifically says you can't run or shoot. SO I guess I am thwarted. 0 for 2 tonight, thanks to you B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146598-vanguard-heroic-assault/#findComment-1700606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniclurker Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 It very specifically states that Divine Intervention can't be used if a character is part of the squad. Divine Intervention works as such: You declare you are going to use divine intervention. You deepstrike. Regardless of how bad you scatter, you cannot run nor can you shoot. If you are within assault range, you may assault. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146598-vanguard-heroic-assault/#findComment-1700639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boreas Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 It very specifically states that Divine Intervention can't be used if a character is part of the squad. Divine Intervention works as such: You declare you are going to use divine intervention. You deepstrike. Regardless of how bad you scatter, you cannot run nor can you shoot. If you are within assault range, you may assault. Haha, been playing to many Sisters of Battle? ;) You mean Heroic Intervention. ^_^ Phil Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146598-vanguard-heroic-assault/#findComment-1700840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
northoceanbeach Posted September 21, 2008 Author Share Posted September 21, 2008 rigth, but shrike doesn't have to join them for them to get fleet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146598-vanguard-heroic-assault/#findComment-1701319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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