mad727 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Hello, Cam with a SW Termi.. Have no idea what it is.. link http://picasaweb.google.com/MAD727/2008_09...ey=qosexa1N_4c# Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146773-what-weapon-is-this/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
flintlocklaser Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 That's the old targeter arm unit for a Cyclone launcher. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146773-what-weapon-is-this/#findComment-1702416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Weregeld Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 The Targeting arm for the old cyclone launcher, in the old rules you lost the power fist when you added the launcher. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146773-what-weapon-is-this/#findComment-1702418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Yup, the Cyclone launcher used to replace the power fist, makes the armaments for the old metal termies out of date if you try to use them. Can be problematic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146773-what-weapon-is-this/#findComment-1702420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olmstedtr Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 or awesome vintage models are making a come back Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146773-what-weapon-is-this/#findComment-1702423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullr Direfang Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 a new local (by local i mean where i go to college not home) store has two SWT w/ Cyclone missile launcher, one SWT w/ storm bolter/CF, and one SWT Sargent. i plan to buy the all and replace the targeters with LC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146773-what-weapon-is-this/#findComment-1702463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Since they are now allowing us to replace the targeter for our cyclone launchers (in 4th, we couldnt). Guess some of my terminators are taking a dip in some SuperClean. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146773-what-weapon-is-this/#findComment-1702478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanaellars Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Personally, all of my old wolves still have thier targetters, but I just count them as still having thier power fist. Won't work in tournaments, but it works in local games, and it adds a bit of character to the older guys. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146773-what-weapon-is-this/#findComment-1702597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad727 Posted September 22, 2008 Author Share Posted September 22, 2008 Thanks Everyone. Mystery solved for me. I picked up a pack of Lighting Claws, left and right arms, that will work just fine. Thanks again!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146773-what-weapon-is-this/#findComment-1702701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Wait... you can put 2LC's with a Cyclone launcher? Really?!?! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146773-what-weapon-is-this/#findComment-1703149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Bjoern Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Wait... you can put 2LC's with a Cyclone launcher? Really?!?! Yes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146773-what-weapon-is-this/#findComment-1703157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Right, Cyclones being on the shoulder free up your hands for twin LC's, or combi weapon and power weapon..... mmmm delicious if not expensive. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146773-what-weapon-is-this/#findComment-1703211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Oh man... did not know that. I know the marines could do it, but last I had heard we were still stuck with only a stormbolter. Where did they fix this at in print, because I am going to end up getting called on it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146773-what-weapon-is-this/#findComment-1703212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanaellars Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Its debateable. I don't think that I have ever seen anything 'official' that did say we can, but it is generally accepted that now that everyone else can, we can as well. I know that it is permitted in most store and regional tournaments... not sure about higher up. It could also have to do with our codex being older than most of the tournament judges, and as such they don't realise we can't do it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146773-what-weapon-is-this/#findComment-1703222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 It could also have to do with our codex being older than most of the tournament judges, and as such they don't realise we can't do it. Heh.. never realized just how old I was... :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146773-what-weapon-is-this/#findComment-1703490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightrunner Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Sadly, you can't do this as in our codex, the Cyclone still counts as a two-handed weapon - it is even mentioned in the latest FAQ for us, P2. Lame! NR :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146773-what-weapon-is-this/#findComment-1704574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Sadly, you can't do this as in our codex, the Cyclone still counts as a two-handed weapon - it is even mentioned in the latest FAQ for us, P2. Lame! NR :lol: Yea, that would seem to imply that the Cyclone takes up an 'arm' slot, as a heavy weapon. It says you can add a single handed weapon along with it. Thats how I thought it worked. Part of why I never bother with them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146773-what-weapon-is-this/#findComment-1704650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightrunner Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 yeah, although that does leave a handy spot for a frost blade with the new, improved version. I've been road-testing the cyclone with my GT army, but I'm thinking I might swing back to the AC - it just seems to appeal more to me as a 'Wolf' weapon. NR :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146773-what-weapon-is-this/#findComment-1704806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 yeah, although that does leave a handy spot for a frost blade with the new, improved version. I've been road-testing the cyclone with my GT army, but I'm thinking I might swing back to the AC - it just seems to appeal more to me as a 'Wolf' weapon. NR :) That and a heavy flamer... "What's that falling from the sky?" exclaimed the confused tanith. "Well it looks like 3 Heavy flamers... awe #@$^%!" yelled a crispy commisar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146773-what-weapon-is-this/#findComment-1704877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad727 Posted September 25, 2008 Author Share Posted September 25, 2008 hmmm... not that the Army Builder is the ultimate authority but I relie on it. It does allow you to take it with most other weapons when you use termi armor.. would they know something we don't? Love the heavy flamer now. Just built my first termi wold guard with it. heavy flamer with a LC. Nice 1 to punch pre-assualt and assualt. also love those AC's, have 2 models with them... all very expensive though... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146773-what-weapon-is-this/#findComment-1705044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanaellars Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 As I stated before, even most Games Workshop Employees see the Cyclone taking up an arm slot in our codex as an 'oversight'. Like I also said, it is permitted to take in the new way (taking up no slots) in a vast majority of store competitions, I double checked this with the Yorkshire Area Manager yesterday and he said he would see "no problem at all" with me using a Cyclone and 2 Lightning Claws. It really comes down to how you are playing. Friendly games and Store games, use the 'house rule', but if you are planning to go to the Grand Tourneys... then no, you can't do it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146773-what-weapon-is-this/#findComment-1705277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 If new marines dont, then I guess we dont either? I dont know personally. I am stripping my terminators, and since I dont use them in tournaments anyway, might as well make them my LC troops. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146773-what-weapon-is-this/#findComment-1705291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Well as I recall were to look at Codex:SM for Terminator armor, and all the weapons involved. If the Launcher doesnt require a hand in the SM codex then it wouldnt in the Wolf codex either, right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146773-what-weapon-is-this/#findComment-1705341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Well as I recall were to look at Codex:SM for Terminator armor, and all the weapons involved. If the Launcher doesnt require a hand in the SM codex then it wouldnt in the Wolf codex either, right? No we don't use their weaponry they can use, we use the weaponry we can use, then refer to what that weaponry does in C:SM... Hope that made sense. :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146773-what-weapon-is-this/#findComment-1705407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightrunner Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Well, if it wasn't specifically mentioned in the FAQ, I would agree. Sadly, it is, so it isn't even as if it is unclear; we just can't, until GW either wises up and changes the FAQ, or we get a new codex. Believe me, if I could take 2 weapons, I would. For those who are using the rules as they should be, I have one question - a LC is nice, but why oh why would you take a pair when for the same cost you can have a Frost Blade and Storm Shield. WGBL with SS, FB, CML, TDA, WP; 138pts Nice. NR :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146773-what-weapon-is-this/#findComment-1705897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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